Torqued over the new Border Czar.
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What do you all think actually happens if we deport 20 million illegal immigrants?
20 million less illegals and far less crime in our country.
They’re not going to Taco Bell.
Economically you don’t see how that would be catastrophic?
Inflation, crime rate will go up, cost in the neighborhood of a $trillion, lower GDP, more national debt.
Whatever you proclaim.... the opposite happens, you are always wrong and always will be.
Our country will be safer. Whe you.actually hear briefings of who came in you would get past your emotional tie to it. We have a problem. A big problem. The number of Chinese young fighting males alone would nearly be 2 brigade combat teams. If not more. The number of AL Qaeda operators is extremely high a d AL Qaeda has a 2025 initiative to attack the United States.
Should we talk about the drug cartels now? They a formidable military force running drugs in extensive networks in our country. Cooperating with the Chinese.
No. So you are condoning modern day slavery or indentured servants? Two, you can still give temp work visas and green cards. Illegal is the key word. Just coming in and living off our system foe life is bull shit.
That’s a leap.
If you’re willing to actually create a work permit and immigration system that functions in a meaningful way then sure, deport to your heart’s content.
why do we just accept that we can't function without an underclass of people that just HAVE to be here to make the country run better?
also it's not going to be an overnight thing.
It may very well be true that is may be detrimental to the economy or prices but modeling this is really difficult. Complex systems bend and flex and I think predicting what this will do to our economy and prices is really difficult to predict.
Like other complex things like infectious disease/public health, why can't our leaders just say there is uncertainty involved....
"we aren't entirely sure what type of impacts mass deportation will have. With that said we are a sovereign country and get to decide who comes and goes into our country and clearly the electorate is not happy with how things have gone on the border in the past four years. If we have a massive worker shortage/problem we will address that as we go and work on the work permit system, but as it stands now we have a massive influx of people into the this country that did not come here legally by first principles we are going to rectify that."
also it's not going to be an overnight thing.
It may very well be true that is may be detrimental to the economy or prices but modeling this is really difficult. Complex systems bend and flex and I think predicting what this will do to our economy and prices is really difficult to predict.
Like other complex things like infectious disease/public health, why can't our leaders just say there is uncertainty involved....
"we aren't entirely sure what type of impacts mass deportation will have. With that said we are a sovereign country and get to decide who comes and goes into our country and clearly the electorate is not happy with how things have gone on the border in the past four years. If we have a massive worker shortage/problem we will address that as we go and work on the work permit system, but as it stands now we have a massive influx of people into the this country that did not come here legally by first principles we are going to rectify that."
Permit the people who are here and working and haven’t committed any crimes. With a clear path toward citizenship. There’s really no reason to want to deport those people. They’re already paying taxes, buying stuff, making stuff. They’re the people we want and need here.
After (it has to be after) you do that come down like the hammer of Thor on anybody employing illegal immigrants. And sure, deport, I don’t care. But “fixing” things by deporting everyone first and figuring out the massive depression it’ll send the economy into after is a terrible idea.
After (it has to be after) you do that come down like the hammer of Thor on anybody employing illegal immigrants. And sure, deport, I don’t care. But “fixing” things by deporting everyone first and figuring out the massive depression it’ll send the economy into after is a terrible idea.
I'm not sure, but the dogs and cats running around my neighborhood are happy as hell.
Just go back 4 years and take a look at what happened when 20 million people lost their jobs. If you think food and housing prices are high now...
When haven't we had this?
I'd go as far as to say it's a feature of capitalism, not a bug.
Uh…no. That’s entirely the problem to begin with. People think if they just make it across our borders that our stupid government will eventually give them a way to become citizens. Send them home and they can come through the front door the right way.
HH thinks the 13 mil illegals that have come across our borders in the last 3-4 years are working and contributing to our society? 😂 😂 😂 😂
I should have been more clear. There will always be upper, middle, and lower classes.
We just had a massive influx past four years that was above and beyond that of prior decades/administrations. My contention is we don't have to think that was absolutely necessary or fear that things will fall a part without it.
Maybe it will, but people are just so certain and I'm not sure I buy it. Second nd third order effects of influx of these migrants is harder to measure and in a complex system like the US economy it is difficult to model this out. People are just so convinced that there are no net downsides and I don't buy it.
How come those who are the most vocal on here about their Christian beliefs are the ones who show the least empathy and follow the teachings of the Bible the least? That goes for you, 'wype, as well as Big Dummy, Keeper, and sometimes Tier Three and the numerically challenged Banker.
Now, don't get confused on this: I am not saying that your god was an empathetic, loving, and fair god. He was vindictive, violent, brutal, and unforgiving. But modern day Christians - those in the last 80+ years - have changed the Biblical message to one of being empathetic, loving, and forgiving, all so that their religious beliefs would fit comfortably in their Western Civilization lifestyle.
Regardless, those people I named continue to support unchristian actions.
Supporting a moron like Homan is as unchristian as you can get. A baby came across the border at six months old, went to college, has a job, has no criminal record, pays taxes, has raised a family, etc. . . . to deport her just like that? Unchristian. A kid came over as a toddler, went through a horrible childhood, has put himself through college, and now gets forced out as a 20 year old? Unchristian.
Are either of 'wype's videos where the moron said to deport the entire family if one of the is an illegal as a way to keep the family together?
Cumulatively, sure. Per capita? Not even close.
Many morons in this thread. I have argued this point now for nearly 10 years: if we could magically snap our fingers and have all illegals gone overnight, the economy would crumble within a few months.
More, the social security system is already a nightmare. Without looking it up, do any of you morons have any idea how much illegals pay into SS and Medicare each year? Again, don't cheat. Throw some numbers out there:
My two cents ( actually worth less) : if people come here seeking asylum and are given court dates to determine their status, they should be given the opportunity to receive a judgement. If they miss their court dates,
hunt them down and throw them out.
hunt them down and throw them out.
If we deport just the ones that have come in over the last 3 years, explain to me the devastation?
Would it be the reduction of hundreds of billions in federal and state govt spending?
Would it be a lessening of demand on housing, which would reduce the cost?
Would it be lessening the strain on our schools where funding has not kept up with the millions of children dumped in the schools that don’t even speak English?
Would it be lessening the load of our hospital system? It’s not like 1,000s of new doctors came with these folks to help care for them.
Seems reasonable.
The practical question is where do they wait for their court date, in the US or somewhere else?
The average wait time for asylum seekers for a court date is 4 years. You want them to go back home and wait??
No. They can come back and get it line. If you go to Disneyland and take your kids and pay 2 grand would you tolerate a line jumper?
Financial opportunity is not a legitimate request for asylum.
Who came here for the first time over the last three years? Or made a crossing in the last three years? A lot of people go back and forth. If you “just” get rid of whoever crossed for the first time in the last three years it’s probably not as bad but good luck sorting out who is who.
94% of illegal immigrant households have at least one worker. That’s much higher than the rate of citizens (73%). They do pull disproportionately more welfare because they tend to be in lower paying jobs. That problem doesn’t go away if it’s a citizen working instead of an illegal immigrant. You’ll still have people in those low paying jobs that require welfare to live.
Educating the next generation isn’t a waste of money. Unless we educate them and then kick them out. That would be a waste. But we need people. Badly. We aren’t reproducing and the economic realities of that are going to come to bear sooner or later. Population increase via immigration, done correctly, can help that.
We aren’t doing it correctly. Letting illegal immigrants stream across the border isn’t correct either. I’m probably a lot further right on immigration reform than most here think I am (not really pro asylum, pro English requirement, pro work requirement, pro secure border) and I’m definitely further right than the Democratic Party as a whole, but a thing that I think would be worse than right now would be yeeting 8 million working adults out of the economy with no plan.
We have absolutely no idea who the majority of them even are. How can you type something so absurd with a straight face?
Yeah let’s throw a bunch of people who have proven they can work within US society, we’ve educated, etc out and then take a bunch of new people.
That’s stupid.
The number comes from this CIS report. The CIS is very anti-immigration so I doubt they’re cooking the numbers to favor immigrants.
😂 this guy knows economics. STFU you just voted for a dumb bitch that bankrupted her own campaign with frivolous spending. Has it occurred to you that you might be stupid?
They just got here, we've notice the rapes and murders. We can bring in workers legally all day long
The irony with this statement.
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