Trump campaign spied on

[Chevy1]

you can cry about trump's believability all you want. not like it's ground shaking news and yore the first to cry about it. at the end of the day, why can't you just admit it, yore holding out hope there's some sort of grounds in the report for impeachment. why can't you mentally deranged cocksuckers just admit what everybody knows?

i honestly believe yore going to be sorely disappointed....but never fear, the msm and your reps will come up with yet another narrative to help you hate the orange man bad even that much more.

this administration's record breaking lying is very well known. It's not a whine...it's a fact. The only reason it's mentioned is some still choose believe what the administration says....as incredible as that seems.

Personally, I don't want impeachment. It would be a waste of time...and destructive. However, I do believe the American voting public should know all the facts before the next election.

 

[herdfan429]

this administration's record breaking lying is very well known. It's not a whine...it's a fact. The only reason it's mentioned is some still choose believe what the administration says....as incredible as that seems.

Personally, I don't want impeachment. It would be a waste of time...and destructive. However, I do believe the American voting public should know all the facts before the next election.

And they will so stop bitching.

 

[Chevy1]

No one you mentioned was an employee of Trump. Flynn & Manafort?? Pffft. Bahahahaha.

What lies were they convicted of while working for Trump?

They either worked for Trump in the capacity as a lawyer or the campaign....or, in Flynn's case, the administration. If Trump had the ability to hire and fire them...then they worked for him. If you want to spin this another way... Knock yourself out.

You have an internet connection; do your own damned research on why they were convicted.

 

[19MU88]

They either worked for Trump in the capacity as a lawyer or the campaign....or, in Flynn's case, the administration. If Trump had the ability to hire and fire them...then they worked for him. If you want to spin this another way... Knock yourself out.

You have an internet connection; do your own damned research on why they were convicted.

wow, you are really going to be surprised when the Flynn stuff is finished.

 

[ThunderCat98]

I used to think Chevy was a fairly reasonable, but slightly misguided, poster. However, the absence of criminal charges against Trump has pushed him over there edge and into dtard and greed territory. Sad.

 

[herdfan429]

They either worked for Trump in the capacity as a lawyer or the campaign....or, in Flynn's case, the administration. If Trump had the ability to hire and fire them...then they worked for him. If you want to spin this another way... Knock yourself out.

You have an internet connection; do your own damned research on why they were convicted.

Yes they were charged but what charges have to relate to Russian collusion and trump specifically? Here’s a hint. NONE

 

[raleighherdfan]

You have an internet connection; do your own damned research on why they were convicted.

I’ll ask again...since you’re making the claims you have the knowledge.

What lies were they convicted of while working for Trump?

 

[WV-FAN]

I used to think Chevy was a fairly reasonable, but slightly misguided, poster. However, the absence of criminal charges against Trump has pushed him over there edge and into dtard and greed territory. Sad.

didn't take me long to see through his "i'm a moderate", or whatever it was, persona. he claimed not be a lib. it doesn't take long for one's true actions to tell the true tale.

 

[extragreen]

I used to think Chevy was a fairly reasonable, but slightly misguided, poster. However, the absence of criminal charges against Trump has pushed him over there edge and into dtard and greed territory. Sad.

No CIC in our lifetimes has been as inexperienced, nowhere near the liar, and has been as stupid as cheetos. <<<That is greed territory. moron

 

[19MU88]

I used to think Chevy was a fairly reasonable, but slightly misguided, poster. However, the absence of criminal charges against Trump has pushed him over there edge and into dtard and greed territory. Sad.

it didn't push him anywhere except to reveal who he really is. another phony ideologue leftist consumed by emotion rather than rational thought.

 

[SamSwimmer]

I wonder if Barr knows literally every single word he writes about Mueller's investigation will be thoroughly parsed. And that eventually (all or most of ) the report will makes it way into the public domain, by FOIA or dems leaking it. And that just making shit up or outright lying will 100% get caught. I mean, if I can figure that out, my guess is he has as well.

But the dems sure as hell can't. They've gone full potato.

 

[19MU88]

I wonder if Barr knows literally every single word he writes about Mueller's investigation will be thoroughly parsed. And that eventually (all or most of ) the report will makes it way into the public domain, by FOIA or dems leaking it. And that just making shit up or outright lying will 100% get caught. I mean, if I can figure that out, my guess is he has as well.

But the dems sure as hell can't. They've gone full potato.

we are redefining the word spy now.

 

[herdfan429]

I wonder if Barr knows literally every single word he writes about Mueller's investigation will be thoroughly parsed. And that eventually (all or most of ) the report will makes it way into the public domain, by FOIA or dems leaking it. And that just making shit up or outright lying will 100% get caught. I mean, if I can figure that out, my guess is he has as well.

But the dems sure as hell can't. They've gone full potato.

Exactly. Barr has no incentive to lie.

 

[SamSwimmer]

 

[Chevy1]

I used to think Chevy was a fairly reasonable, but slightly misguided, poster. However, the absence of criminal charges against Trump has pushed him over there edge and into dtard and greed territory. Sad.

Aw....c'mon. And I only say nice things about you.

As stated above, I really don't want to see Trump charged/impeached.

As far as I'm concerned, you guys nailed it...

I'll be drinking a Maker's in my safe room.

 

[Chevy1]

Yes they were charged but what charges have to relate to Russian collusion and trump specifically? Here’s a hint. NONE

My comment was they were convicted of lying.....either to congress, the FBI....whomever - which they were. You're correct about Russian collusion.

 

[SamSwimmer]

It's your duty to question every single thing a president does, regardless of party. Democrats are 100% right to question the motives of a ruthless self-promoter whose legislative directives influence his financial holdings. I get it. However, counting the spying under the Obama administration, up to the completion of Mueller's investigation, Trump has undergone more investigative scrutiny than just about any other American ever. Each time there's good news, his approval strengthens. Keep taking those doubts away, dems.

 

[countryroads89]

A typo vs not having the slightest understanding why releasing the unredacted report would be a terrible idea - & I'm the dumbass. You really don't understand, do you? Do you think it should be released right this very moment? Completely unredacted? Just let the chips fall where they may?

To members of Congress who have appropriate security clearance...like the Starr Report...yes, absolutely.

 

[Chevy1]

I believe both Clintons individually would have undergone as much investigation intensity as Trump....Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinski, Vince Foster as well as whitewater. Hell, the Bengazi investigation took 28 months.

Don't believe any American President has been caught telling as many whoppers as Trump.....that has a tendency to invite scrutiny/question.

 

[SamSwimmer]

To members of Congress who have appropriate security clearance...like the Starr Report...yes, absolutely.

If I had any faith at all it wouldn't be leaked, then I would back this. But everyone knows it will. Unquestionably. And there will be subsequent fallout from ongoing investigations. This fever-pitched desire to get just one guy will do far more damage than what that one guy can ever do.

 

[herdfan429]

Theres a reason that the dems made a sudden and public push for Trumps taxes after Barrs initial report. That should tell everyone that the Mueller report will be a let down.

 

[countryroads89]

Theres a reason that the dems made a sudden and public push for Trumps taxes after Barrs initial report. That should tell everyone that the Mueller report will be a let down.

If the Mueller Report "totally exonerates" trump, then Congress should see the entire, unredacted report.

 

[countryroads89]

Theres a reason that the dems made a sudden and public push for Trumps taxes after Barrs initial report. That should tell everyone that the Mueller report will be a let down.

Sudden? LMAO! The dude has been promising to release them "as soon as the audit is over" for three years now.

 

[herdfan429]

If the Mueller Report "totally exonerates" trump, then Congress should see the entire, unredacted report.

So you want them to break the law to release the full report?

 

[countryroads89]

So you want them to break the law to release the full report?

Break the law? Not for members of Congress who have appropriate security clearance.

 

[extragreen]

So you want them to break the law to release the full report?

What law is that?
CR89 already said:

To members of Congress who have appropriate security clearance

 

[19MU88]

Break the law? Not for members of Congress who have appropriate security clearance.

hey retard

1) not all members of congress have the exact same security clearance.
2) security clearance has nothing to do with the protected gran jury information that is also being protected.

 

[ThunderCat98]

Aw....c'mon. And I only say nice things about you.

As stated above, I really don't want to see Trump charged/impeached.

As far as I'm concerned, you guys nailed it...

I'll be drinking a Maker's in my safe room.

Why did you drop the "fvcker"?

 

[Bankerreturns]

It is against the law to release grand jury information. Security clearance has nothing to do with it.

 

[Chevy1]

Why did you drop the "fvcker"?

I meant it as a joke.....but thought it could be misinterpreted. You know, none of this shit is worth pissin' someone off.

On a positive note, I am enjoying a Maker's on the rocks, and it's goin down pretty damned smooth.

 

[countryroads89]

It is against the law to release grand jury information. Security clearance has nothing to do with it.

Wrong and wrong.

https://blogs.findlaw.com/decided/2019/02/judges-can-release-secret-grand-jury-records.html

Maybe you should get back to working the bank drive-thru window.

 

[ThunderCat98]

Wrong and wrong.

https://blogs.findlaw.com/decided/2019/02/judges-can-release-secret-grand-jury-records.html

Maybe you should get back to working the bank drive-thru window.

From your link:

"While an 11th Circuit ruling likely wouldn't serve as binding precedent for Mueller's inquiry . . . ."

What the 11th Circuit's ruling does is create a minority split on the issue and opens up further discussion in other Circuits as to whether or not such materials should be released. It may also potentially set up a SCOTUS review of the issue down the line. Other than that, it has little bearing outside of creating an avenue for release of these materials in Federal District Courts in 11th Circuit states (Alabama, Florida, and Georgia). The ruling goes against hundreds of years of precedent and likely will not stand in the long run.

 

[countryroads89]

From your link:

"While an 11th Circuit ruling likely wouldn't serve as binding precedent for Mueller's inquiry . . . ."

What the 11th Circuit's ruling does is create a minority split on the issue and opens up further discussion in other Circuits as to whether or not such materials should be released. It may also potentially set up a SCOTUS review of the issue down the line. Other than that, it has little bearing outside of creating an avenue for release of these materials in Federal District Courts in 11th Circuit states (Alabama, Florida, and Georgia). The ruling goes against hundreds of years of precedent and likely will not stand in the long run.

It has already been ruled to be “legal.” You think a court is now going to contradict a prior ruling? LOL! Good luck with that.

 

[ThunderCat98]

You do understand that because one circuit (the only one that I'm aware of) has created an exception that other Circuits and state courts aren't bound by that decision, right? Of course you don't, because you are a moron.

 

[19MU88]

You do understand that because one circuit (the only one that I'm aware of) has created an exception that other Circuits and state courts aren't bounds by that decision, right? Of course you don't, because you are a moron.

He likes talking about things he doesn’t know

 

[herdfan429]

It has already been ruled to be “legal.” You think a court is now going to contradict a prior ruling? LOL! Good luck with that.

Yeah because we don’t ever have contradictory rulings between circuit courts.

 

[countryroads89]

You do understand that because one circuit (the only one that I'm aware of) has created an exception that other Circuits and state courts aren't bound by that decision, right? Of course you don't, because you are a moron.

So you really think not a single member of Congress will get the entire, unredacted report? LOL! I would wager a one-year self ban with you but I love seeing your nonsense posted on this site.

 

[herdfan429]

So you really think not a single member of Congress will get the entire, unredacted report? LOL! I would wager a one-year self ban with you but I love seeing your nonsense posted on this site.

The only way we would know would be if it’s illegally leaked

 

[ThunderCat98]

I never said it couldn't happen, but think it is unlikely. The only way someone outside of the DOJ gets to see a full and complete unredacted report is (1) it is obtained through an illegal leak, or (2)
a lot of litigation that ultimately results in a Court Order permitting it (which, as I've stated, is highly unlikely).

 

[sistersville]

WITCH HUNT. EVER look to post what you mean instead of sucking up to 3 people on here who care not geniuses like u see them. You honestly think Clinton and Obama couldn't have had a hand In spying on Trump? Not trying to be a smartbutt butbraoulbyour posts are all the same flavor.

I'm actually waiting for that debate. Trump vs whoever just repeating WITCH HUNT and FAKE NEWS.