Remember the thread on here a few weeks ago of people slamming Landon. Was his assertion about Johnson's health actually accurate?
Is Johnson done?
Is Johnson done?
was Landon right in his original assertion with Johnson's health?
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Well, you still can't have a fractured disc, lol.
But in general principle, it does sounds like it was more serious than was initially let on.
But in general principle, it does sounds like it was more serious than was initially let on.
That's one of the real problems: Just what is his injury(ies)? Doc and MU have been as tight lipped as a 3000 year old Egyptian mummy on team injury issues. Does Devon have an ankle sprain or sprains or does he have a back injury? Or both? Maybe Doc is being real coy about it and with a 2 week break before we play WKU, he is wanting them to think that Johnson MAY be a factor in our offense that game. Who knows? Certainly not 99.99% of the Herd fan base.
With the Amount of time Johnson has missed would he qualify for a medical redshirt ? What about van horn ? Just something someone had mentioned to me. But wasn't sure what exactly played into getting a medical redshirt. Although it's seems like the ncaa hands them out like Halloween candy these days.
What I heard was that he needed an epidural during the Kent game. My belief is he has an herniated disk which he reinjured during the FAU game and a high ankle sprain. Not only for is his Marshall career in jeopardy but also his football career. This was the basis to Cole Garvins tweet the other day
You all are naive if you think DJ doesn't have a back injury.
Time to move on from DJ. He's hurt and has been all season. It's time to focus on giving the youngsters some reps as the future backs of the program.
and the back injury was just part of the column. Hen insinuated we put players at risk when any smart guy knows that the player and the team Doc can say no. He also had to apologize for implying that DJ sneaked into Ohio for X Rays. And he was asking for it for a long time and I'm glad they have restricted his access. T-O-O-L with a capital T. He has had an agenda over and beyond stirring the pot for a very long time. I don't consider him a Marshall Fan at all.
I think Landon has lost his way. His personal vendetta against Holliday can be read in his 2sday ramblings.
Id love to see him let go by the dog patch, he wouldn't even get hired by the Putnam Post!
A fractured disc probably meant a fractured vertebra , or a ruptured disc. Bottom line a perfect example of poorly researched writing that is then approved by an editor who must be in the same category.
Landon is a cancer, cut him out!
Id love to see him let go by the dog patch, he wouldn't even get hired by the Putnam Post!
A fractured disc probably meant a fractured vertebra , or a ruptured disc. Bottom line a perfect example of poorly researched writing that is then approved by an editor who must be in the same category.
Landon is a cancer, cut him out!
I personally think Landon was dead on but obviously doesnt know the correct medical lingo (ruptured disc). The fact we haven't even seen DJ on the sidelines in his jersey and street clothes means he hurt badly and probably had surgery, which is why Landon got in trouble with the team. He disclosed personal info that wasn't supposed to get out. If it were a bad high ankle sprain then DJ would be on the sidelines in a boot. The fact he isnt on the sidelines tells me he had surgery on his back. No other reason he wouldn't be around. I think his playing days are done at Marshall. I hate that for him and the team. If he had stayed healthy he would have been drafted probably at least 2nd round. He just couldn't stay healthy and that showed as the season wore on last year. He didn't make it 2 games this year.
[QUOTE="oldeherd, post: 219542, member: 163That's one of the real problems: Just what is his injury(ies)? Doc and MU have been as tight lipped as a 3000 year old Egyptian mummy on team injury issues. Does Devon have an ankle sprain or sprains or does he have a back injury? Or both? Maybe Doc is being real coy about it and with a 2 week break before we play WKU, he is wanting them to think that Johnson MAY be a factor in our offense that game. Who knows? Certainly not 99.99% of the Herd fan base.[/QUOTE]
He had surgery to trim disk and vertebrae, due to bulging. This on top of shoulder still healing and high ankle sprains since last year. I doubt we will see him again this year and wish he would have just taken his redshirt this year.
He had surgery to trim disk and vertebrae, due to bulging. This on top of shoulder still healing and high ankle sprains since last year. I doubt we will see him again this year and wish he would have just taken his redshirt this year.
I don't know the specific rules to qualify for medical redshirt, but as little as he has played this season you would think he would qualify.
Johnson will not receive a medical red shirt… Once you play in 25 percent of the teams games for a season that opportunity is gone. Also, I do not think it would be in his best interest to seek one. Playing another year in college is not going to do anything for him regarding a potential pro career. He needs to get healthy and assess his future opportunities.
Van Horn could possibly qualify if he misses the rest of the season. Whether or not he will seek a medical red shirt I don't know.
So what I am reading here is Landon appears to have been right on several counts as it relates to a potential career ending injury to Johnson, but, because CL openly called out Doc, he is an ass who needs be ignored or banned?
I go back to Tron Martinez, who ruined his knees playing a whole year on bad wheels and never played a down again, for anybody.
I don't like Landon, but anyone with an IQ over 50 should be able to figure out Holliday is full of shit. The notion that we are hiding his injury so that other teams will still gameplan for him is ridiculous, especially when it appears his season (career?) is done. The coaching staff is being needlessly opaque, and I have a feeling some day (once Holliday is gone and the local press doesn't have to fear reprisal) we might all find out why.
I don't like Landon, but anyone with an IQ over 50 should be able to figure out Holliday is full of shit. The notion that we are hiding his injury so that other teams will still gameplan for him is ridiculous, especially when it appears his season (career?) is done. The coaching staff is being needlessly opaque, and I have a feeling some day (once Holliday is gone and the local press doesn't have to fear reprisal) we might all find out why.
Its the way he did came about it. Landon could have easily came out and said Im hearing rumors Devon may be more injured than previously thought instead he went out and accused people of endangering kids etc.
The whole situation is sad. I hope DJ gets a shot one day but I doubt any NFL team will touch him with his injury problems. Its really sad. The kid was a really good RB and when healthy one of the best in the nation. Its a shame that he only had 1 good season with us then got injured. Would have loved to see a healthy DJ for 3 years at RB. Would have been something to watch. Kid had knack for finding the hole.
As for the NCAA rule on medical redshirt, it needs to be changed. The kid was robbed of his career because of a dumb rule that just because he played a handful of plays in a couple games that he can't ever play college ball again. That is BS.
As for the NCAA rule on medical redshirt, it needs to be changed. The kid was robbed of his career because of a dumb rule that just because he played a handful of plays in a couple games that he can't ever play college ball again. That is BS.
it wouldn't matter if he had 10 years of eligibility left. the kid is done...
Its almost as if Doc dressed Johnson and played him one more time as if to mock the "inaccuracies" after that article was written....only to have Johnson to mysteriously disappear from the sidelines again a game or two later.
Extremely odd to me that a player who was one of the top running backs in the country last year appears to suffer a career ending injury and not a peep from the program. I am not suggesting the complete specifics need be shared, but damn, give a chance to the fans who cheered this kid on, an opportunity to support this kid in some way if it is over. Makes little sense what the big damn secret is at this point.
Extremely odd to me that a player who was one of the top running backs in the country last year appears to suffer a career ending injury and not a peep from the program. I am not suggesting the complete specifics need be shared, but damn, give a chance to the fans who cheered this kid on, an opportunity to support this kid in some way if it is over. Makes little sense what the big damn secret is at this point.
If Johnson ever plays a down of football again for aby one it'll be a small
If he does.. it'll likely be on crutches in street clothes.
If he does.. it'll likely be on crutches in street clothes.
Well, you can pretty much thank Chuckles for ruining it. Because of both his inability to write medical terms (which is kind of important) and actively accusing Doc of somehow endangering this guy's career (again, a real big issue with people, bordering on slander in which he could be sued) has made the AD justifiably decide to both limit Chuck's access and not reveal much of what's going on.
Honestly, at this point, nobody minus immediate family, team, coaching, and that's basically it, should know whats going on. All you guys do is decide to "give your opinion" on it, which turns into accusations, jumped conclusions, and overall just stupid banter...
Plus, if anything, DJ was likely given the choice on if he wanted the injuries revealed or not. That is, if I am not mistaken, his choice...not yours or anyone else's. I'm sure if any of you had family who had a medical procedure, you'd probably like to control who knows about it and who doesn't.
Who the hell knows what's going on with him...he could honestly be a game time decision for WKU...that'd be something to really mess with them if he dressed for it. But again, it's speculation at this point...but it's no matter...if Doc or even DJ came out to reveal what his status is, someone on here would begin to complain and question the program...and that's bitching we just don't need.
But of all things, it's Chuckles that really made this into what it is...and as I said, Doc and the AD at this point, have every right to keep it from him and us...maybe they'll keep doing that...maybe it'll annoy the fans enough to shake down the H-D to get Chuck to be forced to cover the local HS basketball games...who knows....Go Herd!
Got it. Chuckles is the reason Devon got hurt and is not playing and will most likely not play again. Yep. Makes total sense.
I'm surprised no students have discovered "the truth" about Johnson's injury. Doesn't he go to class anymore?
Putting together several letters makes a word. A grouping of these with appropriate spaces forms a sentence.
This procedure is called "Reading."
So "read" this...
No moron, Chuck Landon is the reason why nobody is reporting Devon Johnson's injury or saying anything about it.
Yep. Read what you said......still makes zero logical sense as it relates to this situation. In fact...one with a shred of common sense would understand there is a better way to respond to Chuckles after the article than, "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh Uuhhhhhhhhhhh! This is a private team matter!! You are banned!!!" Only to rarely see Johnson again...on any level
In fact, had the program been a little more informative of the injury in the beginning....(e.g. "We understand that there are some questions swirling regarding Johnson's injury. At this point all we know and can divulge is that it appears to be a back injury. We are attempting to ascertain the extent of that injury with our medical teams. If Johnson is able to return to the field safely; the program, the fans, and the media will be first to know. We are hoping for a full, fast recovery, but, at this point we are preparing to play without Johnson for the foreseeable future)
Its that simple .........Chuckles wouldn't have had a story to write and speculate on. This would have allowed a level of seriousness to the public without divulging the exact injury/medical condition of the player in order to maintain some privacy. Was Chuckles irresponsible in some of his initial medical assumptions? yes (although this story is now proving out to be more correct than originally thought). Was the program irresponsible in helping to create the speculation of the injury because they intentionally tried to down play the seriousness of the injury and ignore the potential shit storm they were creating in the beginning??......absolutely.
I know this pisses many off, but Doc appears to have managed this situation as well as he does the game clock on some Saturday afternoons.
I knew he was done the day at FAU when I saw him leave the stadium on crutches bawling his eyes out.. I knew of he was crying that hard it wasn't because of pain but because someone probably told him his season was over.
I think the situation could have been handled better by both sides.
