was Landon right in his original assertion with Johnson's health?
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Like much of Chuck's work over the years, this is a perfect example of why he's gotten in trouble in the past and why he got fired from the Daily Mail.
Chuck's rush to "get the scoop" on fellow reporters has caused him to skip normal protocols such as getting confirmation from two sources before sending the story for print.
Chuck was onto something with this story but his sloppiness undermined his credibility and provided Doc and Mike with with opportunities to mock him.
Chuck's rush to "get the scoop" on fellow reporters has caused him to skip normal protocols such as getting confirmation from two sources before sending the story for print.
Chuck was onto something with this story but his sloppiness undermined his credibility and provided Doc and Mike with with opportunities to mock him.
Still want an explanation on "can't" comment. Please no HIPPA excuses. My example of a press release would not have conflicted with the regulation.
I'm not taking up for Chuck in this. But both sides have proven to be less than professional in how they handled this event. Doc needs to be willing to communicate more effectively. He is the "leader" of this program (I guess).
I'm not taking up for Chuck in this. But both sides have proven to be less than professional in how they handled this event. Doc needs to be willing to communicate more effectively. He is the "leader" of this program (I guess).
Again, can Rock get a medical redshirt? If that's the case, I'd don't want to waste Devon or Clint on the rest of the season. We are going to a bowl anyway; MTSU and WKU will graduate a lot of personnel. He and Van Horn would give us a real boost for next year.
Hell, Doc never seemed to get any time to divulge information to people because Chuck kept trying to hard to beat him to it...on top of producing an attempted smear campaign against the head coach.
It led to his limited access and the AD a great reason to not reveal anything. Had Chuck been more professional, he would've gotten the controversy he wanted.
That is one of the most absurd explanations I've heard yet. Doc has all the time in the world to discuss injuries with the media....especially in regards to a player like Johnson.
IF....IF.... this is how the program came to the decision to handle this issue.............then they are as childish and unprofessional as Chuckie. We should question ALL their judgments.
I really need to create a thread that just says "DEVON CAN'T GET A MEDICAL REDSHIRT" and sticky it.
No. He has played too much to qualify for a medical redshirt under NCAA rules according to what former Herd assistant AD Randy Burnside has said on various threads on Facebook.
Thank you. That answers my question. In retrospect and once he initially got hurt, I wish we would have held him out for next year. But hindsight's 20/20. In all my years of following Marshall sports, this has been my greatest individual disappointment. He's a good kid and I really feel for him. Let's pray that he heals up and some pro team gives him a chance.
Good lord, you seriously have no clue...do you?
I'd try to write the explanation in crayon but you'd probably eat the crayon.
You have a clue?? C'mon. Give us the scoop Chucky missed out on..........
You have had plenty of opportunity to discuss this, but choose to give kindergarten excuses with little common sense explanations. Lets recap: "Chucky's fault Devon is hurt. Chucky's fault the school didn't release ANY information. Chucky's fault coach didn't have enough time. Chucky's faul..." We get it. Chucky's fault....
People who don't get it that he was cleared by the team physician and wanted to play.......well....they aren't gonna get much. Doc doesn't over-rule the Doctor. Why would he? Now if you can prove DJ was hesitant and Doc said he needed him then lets hear your evidence.
The thing is.......NO ONE has heard anything since DJ went "poof". "Cleared to play"...dressed for a game....then.... "poof".
The "silence" is evident.
That is all.
The "silence" is evident.
That is all.
I said it is Landon's fault that Marshall is not releasing information on DJ because of his actions...if you still can't read and understand that then you seriously need to have several drinks and drive home.
There is no logic in your scenario at all. All the more reason to release a statement that clarifies the situation.
Really??? You are suggesting someone drink and drive?? God forbid someone actually do that......and run you or your family over. You seem to be as wise in your writing as Chuckie.
The kind of logic that suggests someone get behind a wheel of a car after several drinks?? You are a genius.
I'm only suggesting you do it...which eliminates your idiocy from this Earth...and thats genius.
Not to mention, if you actually listened to some moron on a internet forum to tell you to do something self-destructing with you well aware of the consequences, you'd have to wonder how long you'd have lived anyway.
Back to the topic at hand...go complain to Doc about his decision making skills. Now, after he is done laughing at you, you can wipe your tears away and go brood in your little trailer and continue to think you are somehow right in all this.
By the way, Doc is not on your time or anyone else's except Marshall's time. Not only do I hope he doesn't release information so people like you just get tortured from it, but I hope he does it in the future out of spite.
Whonare you tonsay he answers to you? Why don't you attempt to grow a pair of balls and ask him on his call in show.
Whonare you tonsay he answers to you? Why don't you attempt to grow a pair of balls and ask him on his call in show.
Tortured? My goodness. All anyone has to do is read your rambling attempts at wishing someone else harm over an opinion about a newspaper article. Bitter and angry much Herdstruck?? Hahaha.
Karma is a bitch. Here's hoping a drunk driver doesn't run you over, or just the fact that you just simply enjoy your life swinging from a football coach's nut sack.
I actually really haven't cared much about what Doc says to everyone...if he wants to ring on DJ's injury or not. You just can't grasp that he simply could care less about you or what you think regarding his practices as a coach.
But in terms of nuts, your nutless self wouldn't even do the proper thing AND ASK HIM.
Funny how it's a newspaper article for me but it's so much less for you. In either case, rot in Raleigh!
Doc and Company made a huge mistake with DJ when they could have redshirted him, let him get healthy and come back next year at full strength. It would have been better for DJ, the team and DJs NFL chances. It should have been clear to everyone DJ was not going to be able to make it through the year without battling the back and ankle injuries and that simply resting him a couple of games was going to matter very little. Chuck was right but Doc went ahead and played DJ after Chuck wrote the article and that blew DJs medical redshirt. I have no clue what Doc was thinking. DJ should have been sat and allowed to get a medical redshirt.
If you don't care what Doc says....why you so mad bro? You just keep making an ass out of yourself.
He could care less about what fans think??? Lol. Says a lot about him if that is the case. For the record, I think he cares. That's one of the reason he's not speaking to the press. Classic CYA. but then again. That's Chuckies's fault too. Right?
That's a fair point Dan and the answer is I don't know for certain that he didn't have two sources on this story. I used that as an example of why he's gotten in trouble in the past. He has a reputation among sportswriters for going to print prematurely.
I said I thought he was onto something but he missed the mark just enough to allow Mike and Doc to mock him. The rest of my post was my opinion and not supported by fact.
Devon is still very much a prospect for the NFL and has been called multiple times by scouts of teams...so his career is not done.
I think right now he is game time decision for WKU...if anything he is good for the bowl game.
I think right now he is game time decision for WKU...if anything he is good for the bowl game.
I don't understand people's obsession with wanting Doc to give detailed breakdowns of every player's injuries. What does it accomplish besides giving the other team a heads up on who is hurt, how and to what degree? Just to appease you? Serious question.
I asked him specifically about it. He told me (and I believe him) that he had multiple sources on it being a back injury, the "fractured disc" was a mistake in terms of word usage and made him look a little silly, he should have said ruptured, but none the less, his reporting was more accurate than not. His MRI location apparently was wrong too, but not wrong apparently that DJ had one. As for getting into trouble, that is a real matter of how you look at things. Few of you know the restrictions that MU places on ALL reporters at practice. Chuck is just doing his job, the best way "he knows how to do it". Marshall (from the days of Jack Daniels as Assoc. AD) has almost always been a difficult place for the media to work, I've never understood, what they hope to gain by being a bit difficult, moreso than programs much larger who are far more transparent. That said, GO HERD!!
I don't think anyone, including the media is asking for "detailed breakdowns", Simple statements would do.
Once again it's how he reported it and insisted that the staff intentionally played Devon against medical advise. The editors at the hd suck and chuck sucks if they didn't catch the fractured disk.
"ruptured" or "fractured" disk (if that is the injury) = he is very likely done.
With that said. We looked the best we've looked all year yesterday. Very happy about that.
With that said. We looked the best we've looked all year yesterday. Very happy about that.
Really appreciate the followup. I too would believe Chuck if he told me he had two sources.
Not to belabor the point, but Chuck's problems of going to print prematurely are again illustrated in your accounting. The fact that he got something wrong or made a poor choice of words in the story illustrates his career in a nutshell.
Having said I that, I said I believed he was on to something but I think he got sloppy and he left himself vulnerable to criticism.
You are totally correct about Marshall and how difficult the school is to deal with from a media perspective.
