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Was Paul Ryan Equal to the President?

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When Paul Ryan was the Speaker of the House, was the specific position equal the Presidency? Not in a broad sense but specifically is the Speaker of the House constitutionally equal to the Presidency at any regular time? Not under a set of circumstances where something happened to the POTUS and VPOTUS and then eventually he would have gotten the position, but under normal circumstances at any given time?
 
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When Paul Ryan was the Speaker of the House, was the specific position equal the Presidency? Not in a broad sense but specifically is the Speaker of the House constitutionally equal to the Presidency at any regular time? Not under a set of circumstances where something happened to the POTUS and VPOTUS and then eventually he would have gotten the position, but under normal circumstances at any given time?
No. There are times in history when the President has nearly absolute power in this country if wanted or needed. Granted at most times they are a systems of check and balances. But, look at Lincoln in the American War Between the States. What he did would make Guantanamo Bay and the War on Terror look like Candy Land. In addition, that power is the Executive Branch which includes the Vice President. Look up the constitutionality of unitary executive power of the POTUS.

There is an order of succession, but that would require and unique set of events that suddenly wiped out the POTUS and VP at the near exact time. If the POTUS goes down the VP quickly becomes POTUS and names a new VP quickly rendering the order of succession basically useless.

The Speaker of the House has absolute zero executive powers. The Speakers job is to make sure the House passes legislation.
 
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No. Just like it's not worrisome when Pelosi said it. Why? See above.
Actually, Paul Ryan never said it. Because he's not suffering mental issues like the current Speaker.
The Democrats have seriously lost their minds. They've introduced legislation to end the electoral college and also prevent a POTUS from pardoning family. They want to make huge changes to institutions and laws based off of one guy.
 
Actually, Paul Ryan never said it. Because he's not suffering mental issues like the current Speaker.
The Democrats have seriously lost their minds. They've introduced legislation to end the electoral college and also prevent a POTUS from pardoning family. They want to make huge changes to institutions and laws based off of one guy.
It is bigger than one guy. We were talking about the lunatic Democrats at work yesterday. They need power that bad. That is why they are against this wall deal. They need the immigrants, illegal immigrants by the way, to be on the dole so they have power.

They are addicted to power that badly.
 
It is bigger than one guy. We were talking about the lunatic Democrats at work yesterday. They need power that bad. That is why they are against this wall deal. They need the immigrants, illegal immigrants by the way, to be on the dole so they have power.

They are addicted to power that badly.
Their infighting right now is glorious to watch. It's even funnier to watch them spin why it's not as bad as people think (it is).
 
Their infighting right now is glorious to watch. It's even funnier to watch them spin why it's not as bad as people think (it is).

It's almost as entertaining as watching the Republicans getting triggered over Pelosi, Ocasio-Cortez, or the MUSLIMS WHO WERE SWORE IN ON THE KORAN OMG.
 
It's almost as entertaining as watching the Republicans getting triggered over Pelosi, Ocasio-Cortez, or the MUSLIMS WHO WERE SWORE IN ON THE KORAN OMG.
Really if muslims keep coming and we get itchy maybe we can play cowboys and muslims
 
It's almost as entertaining as watching the Republicans getting triggered over Pelosi and Ocasio-Cortez.
Pelosi's dirty & Dems know it - she's also suffering from mental issues. I don't say that lightly but it's clear from watching her over the last few years something is wrong with her synapses. Oscasio is straight up a flake with crazy eyes. Seriously, read her own quotes on Twitter & tell me she's not a 13 year old. Apparently, this is the government we deserve.
 
Hello momasita gets prego now the family has a new USA home. Here come the cousins! Now we need English as second language in schools. Free lunches. Welfare. Healthcare for all

More on the dole and more beauracracy.

Yea sir. And some businesses is not off the hook. Cheap labor driving down wages for all.

Something needs to be done.

Come on down to NC and see if you are a black or white man working construction
 
Since illegal immigrants can't vote, how does that provide any politician power?
Those are probably the 3,000,000 illegal votes YOUR President was referencing back a couple years ago. Hopefully, once he fixes the rest of the Obama messes, he can find time to get to the bottom of this. If you don't think those illegals are voting, then you're simply not paying attention.
 
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Those are probably the 3,000,000 illegal votes YOUR President was referencing back a couple years ago. Hopefully, once he fixes the rest of the Obama messes, he can find time to get to the bottom of this. If you don't think those illegals are voting, then you're simply not paying attention.

Sure thing. And as soon as Mexico antes up, we'll get right on to building that bigly wall.
 
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Sure thing. And as soon as Mexico antes up, we'll get right on to building that bigly wall.
Let me simplify this for you. You were in the woodworking business, right? Prior to setting up shop, did you require all of your customers (Mexico) to pay you in advance of making pieces for them? Or, once your shop was operational, and clientelle was providing you with orders, did you start collecting money at that point for the work, once you completed the woodworking project? Now, thoroughly think that through, and you'll figure out just how Mexico is actually going to pay for 'The Wall'.
 
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During your leisure time, simply read this article. You see, stopping the illegals from crossing into our southern border will have a huge financial impact, and guess who will have to pick up that burden? That's right, Mexico.

https://fairus.org/issue/publicatio...n-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers

We've already discussed this recently, it is unsubstantiated that illegal immigration is either a net plus or net negative. But you link me to an anti immigration site. bravo. Now if the illegal immigration is so perilous, why didn't we take that 1.5 trillion in tax cuts and build the wall instead. With that money, we could build the wall, and have enough left over to build 60 more walls. Evidently, the rich were in more peril than the border.
 
Those are probably the 3,000,000 illegal votes YOUR President was referencing back a couple years ago. Hopefully, once he fixes the rest of the Obama messes, he can find time to get to the bottom of this. If you don't think those illegals are voting, then you're simply not paying attention.
Wait didn’t trump disband the election fraud committee?? Put the joint up Michigan Herd fan.
 
Why do Dems not care about the legal immigrants who did everything lawfully?
 
where in the blue blazes of hell do you guys come up with these witty well thought out responses. fvcking killing me man, killing me! stop it already!

I love this site. Some of the stupidest people on the planet post here, you included. It’s extremely entertaining.
 
I love this site. Some of the stupidest people on the planet post here, you included. It’s extremely entertaining.
Still angry about me calling you out for being a little bitch who likes to take pictures of guys or for calling you out for your complete ignorance concerning Benghazi?
 
Still angry about me calling you out for being a little bitch who likes to take pictures of guys or for calling you out for your complete ignorance concerning Benghazi?
you must have missed his rant on debt vs. deficit. was totally oblivious to the concept of each, yet attempted to lecture another poster about the terms. classic.
 
The Democrats have seriously lost their minds. They've introduced legislation to end the electoral college and also prevent a POTUS from pardoning family. They want to make huge changes to institutions and laws based off of one guy.

This is silly. When a majority of Democrats vote to approve whack bills, get back to me. For fvcks sake, we could fill a server with batshit crazy stuff that has come out of just Rand Paul and Ted Cruz's mouths. Some reps and senators get tagged to fill the role of floating crazy shit, just to appease the nuts in the base. Here's a hint: for all of the "mainstream Dems" outrage at the Muslim woman saying impeach the motherfvcker*, they are happy...because they can distance themselves from the fringe in the base.

Also, may I remind you The Great Orange One himself said the EC should be abolished...until he won because of it, then he was all butthole-tonguing the EC.

* IMHO, she is just a little early. The odds that Trump hasn't committed a least a misdemeanor are pretty poor. The question is can it proven, and who really gives a shit...as he said, most of you wouldn't care if he shot someone on 5th Avenue.
 
This is silly. When a majority of Democrats vote to approve whack bills, get back to me. For fvcks sake, we could fill a server with batshit crazy stuff that has come out of just Rand Paul and Ted Cruz's mouths. Some reps and senators get tagged to fill the role of floating crazy shit, just to appease the nuts in the base. Here's a hint: for all of the "mainstream Dems" outrage at the Muslim woman saying impeach the motherfvcker*, they are happy...because they can distance themselves from the fringe in the base.

Also, may I remind you The Great Orange One himself said the EC should be abolished...until he won because of it, then he was all butthole-tonguing the EC.

* IMHO, she is just a little early. The odds that Trump hasn't committed a least a misdemeanor are pretty poor. The question is can it proven, and who really gives a shit...as he said, most of you wouldn't care if he shot someone on 5th Avenue.
Politicians say crazy shit all the time. Senator Obama lashed out at Bush's AG & when he got in office, used Bush's model for the AG - only his was far worse.

If they actually go the extra step to introduce dogshit legislation like this, which everyone knows is dogshit, then give them the boot. They're wasting everyone's time by even having to acknowledge it.

And Trump was a real estate mogul in NY. Of course he committed crimes. A number of Trump associates are getting hit with charges that have nothing to do with Russian coercion. The boards & groups he would have had to commit those crimes with are most definitely Democrat, given the city's makeup. If none of them get indicted, how thorough is this investigation?
 
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