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What do all the Trump "pets" think about Mike Pence?

Berea is okay, but it's full of leftist hippies. Boone Tavern is a cool little place to stay there with a really good restaurant. Bardstown is nicer, imo, with some interesting history and multiple distilleries to tour nearby.
Berea: the trails at Indian Fort Mountain are nice.

Bardstown is fvcked up. I get the creeps when I go there, just knowing all the shit that has happened.
 
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The premise of the OP is flawed. No one "thinks" of Pence at all for the most part. He's just out there somewhere and no one really cares one way or the other.
Pence did what he thought was right, no real fault in that. I would not have because I would have tendered my resignation as Vice President and then the next one could have done it. The whole save the country stuff to me is just well hogwash; if it needs fixed then fix it. A flawed election is a flawed election and pandora's box was opened. Let's have the debate and fix it.
 
I am a lying idiot and oath breaking trumptard. And I will break that oath for trump again any chance I get.
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Berea is okay, but it's full of leftist hippies. Boone Tavern is a cool little place to stay there with a really good restaurant. Bardstown is nicer, imo, with some interesting history and multiple distilleries to tour nearby.
I would never consider living in Berea. I had checked it all out when Kate used to talk about it years back. I would fit living in Berea about as well as Doc Fauci would as a member of the Proud Boys. I did recently look into Bardstown after watching a story about it on one of the killer show channels I watch. Think the episode was called Murder in Bourbon Town, or Bourbon Town Mystery. You see a lot of nice places to live watching Discovery I.D. shows. Saw another one last week that took place in Apple Valley (Mount Vernon, Ohio) and that looked like a helluva place to live. The killer on that show was in love with trees. His house was even full of leaves that he would bag. Murdered three people and cut them up, and shoved them down a hollowed out tree. You can learn a lot when you watch these shows, so if you see a neighbor out there raking and taking the bags of leaves into his living room, you might want to keep a close eye on him if he comes over to borrow a cup of sugar.
 
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Apple Valley's too close to Columbus though.

The most secluded spot I have found in Ohio is up in Wyandot County. Far enough away from everything that you can sit there all day and nobody bothers you. Egypt Valley though way in the eastern part of the state is OK too, but you have to drive hellish I-70 for three hours from here to get to it so to hell with that.
 
They've got some nice highways going through Wyandot County. That route 30 now is all fixed up, and nice to ride on. Plus, they have that Love's truck stop there in Upper Sandusky. You can pretty much get everything you need at a Love's truck stop. I stop there on my way to Amish Country. Good highway until you get to Mansfield where they're always working on the road. They got a Love's on I-69 in Angola, Indiana. That's the one I've been to the most. Nice place to take a leak too.
 
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Excellent point. Using that logic, he also had more voters vote against him, a lot more, than any sitting president in history.

In fact, more Americans voted against him than voted for him in both '16 and '20.
There’s a difference between Americans voting against him and ballots cast against him.
 
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Pence did the right thing in the end... So good for him on that one.

At the end of the day, his political career is over on a national level. The way far right won't vote for him because he didn't commit treason to help Trump out, and the moderates/democrats won't vote for him because of his ideology in regards to gay rights, separation of church and state, etc. He is now Dan Quayle (who ironically served as an "advisor" for Pence during the final year of his VP term and urged him to certify the election as Senate rules laid out).
 
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Pence did the right thing in the end... So good for him on that one.

At the end of the day, his political career is over on a national level. The way far right won't vote for him because he didn't commit treason to help Trump out, and the moderates/democrats won't vote for him because of his ideology in regards to gay rights, separation of church and state, etc. He is now Dan Quayle (who ironically served as an "advisor" for Pence during the final year of his VP term and urged him to certify the election as Senate rules laid out).
Treason? All he had to do was resign and say I am not signing that. I quit. That's not treason at all. Questioning an election is not treason. Members of the body and the VP have a right to question it. It is there in black and white. He could have just said I quit, they can appoint a new VP and walked away. You don't have to serve in office.

How about ballot stuffing? Filling out ballots for people? Mystery counts in the early morning darkness? Is that Treason?
 
Treason? All he had to do was resign and say I am not signing that. I quit. That's not treason at all.
He swore an oath to the Constitution, so did you. He upheld his oath, you didn't and won't.
It is there in black and white
You're a lying idiot.
How about ballot stuffing?
Didn't happen. Moron.
Mystery counts in the early morning darkness?
You're a lying idiot.
 
Pence is just like McCain and Romney. The Democrats think he's great, because he's no threat. They know in a national election, Pence would get stomped by probably even the biggest leftist kooks you could find.

Pence is their dream GOP candidate so they could really run Bernie or Butt gegg and still win easy.
 
Treason? All he had to do was resign and say I am not signing that. I quit. That's not treason at all. Questioning an election is not treason. Members of the body and the VP have a right to question it. It is there in black and white. He could have just said I quit, they can appoint a new VP and walked away. You don't have to serve in office.

How about ballot stuffing? Filling out ballots for people? Mystery counts in the early morning darkness? Is that Treason?
You are not that dumb.

Pence isn't that dumb either... If he quit, and allowed the incumbent president to hand pick a yes man to contest the election results, Pence would have laid the groundwork for future president/VP combinations to do the same thing. If the incumbent loses, they can tell the VP to quit, find a cronie (Giuliani, etc) to endlessly "contest the voting process/results," and stay in office... You know what that is called? - Dictatorship... This is the way Trump's homie Putin does it (A. give people no other choice on the ballot, B. sham elections where he and his cronies decide what the results are)

Can you image if Biden and Harris pulled that shit in a couple years? You would lose your ever-loving mind.

And before I get labeled a "liberal" I will throw out there that I'm a Republican who voted for Trump in 2016 and neither of them in 2020... Pence did the right thing. It's time to get over it and move forward to 2024.
 
voted for Trump in 2016 and neither of them in 2020

Interesting. I almost didn't vote either. Easy to see why people wouldn't. It was an extremely depressing time, and Trump presided over it.

The line was very long that morning. I did not vote in the morning. Came back that evening and since there was no line, I went ahead and voted. Had there been a line, I would have gone home and said to hell with it.
 
Interesting. I almost didn't vote either. Easy to see why people wouldn't. It was an extremely depressing time, and Trump presided over it.

The line was very long that morning. I did not vote in the morning. Came back that evening and since there was no line, I went ahead and voted. Had there been a line, I would have gone home and said to hell with it.
I voted during the early voting period, which was more convenient for me than waiting for Election Day... I just chose not to vote for president. I personally don't think Trump was doing a very good job, and I wasn't going to vote for Biden, so I just left it blank. If it's the two of them again in 2024, Biden will be 80 and Trump 78 years old at that point, I will likely handle it the same way. Neither of them have impressed me while in the Oval Office, thus I am hoping the GOP finds some new blood somewhere (not DeSantis, who is an epic prick).
 
You are not that dumb.

Pence isn't that dumb either... If he quit, and allowed the incumbent president to hand pick a yes man to contest the election results, Pence would have laid the groundwork for future president/VP combinations to do the same thing. If the incumbent loses, they can tell the VP to quit, find a cronie (Giuliani, etc) to endlessly "contest the voting process/results," and stay in office... You know what that is called? - Dictatorship... This is the way Trump's homie Putin does it (A. give people no other choice on the ballot, B. sham elections where he and his cronies decide what the results are)

Can you image if Biden and Harris pulled that shit in a couple years? You would lose your ever-loving mind.

And before I get labeled a "liberal" I will throw out there that I'm a Republican who voted for Trump in 2016 and neither of them in 2020... Pence did the right thing. It's time to get over it and move forward to 2024.
You are not correct. the Congress must approve who would be appointed the new VP. It is not done by pure replacement. I would have resigned and said Trump will pick one and the Democrat controlled congress would never approve.

The sitting president cannot just replace a VP and if one is fired or resigned there is an appointment process and there must be Congressional approval.

I would have tendered my resignation on the grounds of circumstances surrounding the 2020 election. Have at Trump and have at it Congress. Have it Supreme Court. I would have not just handed the presidencey to Joe Biden in good faith. I would have said well, you all helped create the mess so, figure it out and it will end up at the congress and the court. I would have written that I have fulfilled the obligation of my office and by turning in my resignation I have further completed what I feel is morally and ethically the correct thing to do. The power of my office and the power of my moral fortitude will not allow to ceremonial rubber stamp something in question.
 
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You are not correct. the Congress must approve who would be appointed the new VP. It is not done by pure replacement. I would have resigned and said Trump will pick one and the Democrat controlled congress would never approve.

The sitting president cannot just replace a VP and if one is fired or resigned there is an appointment process and there must be Congressional approval.

I would have tendered my resignation on the grounds of circumstances surrounding the 2020 election. Have at Trump and have at it Congress. Have it Supreme Court. I would have not just handed the presidencey to Joe Biden in good faith. I would have said well, you all helped create the mess so, figure it out and it will end up at the congress and the court. I would have written that I have fulfilled the obligation of my office and by turning in my resignation I have further completed what I feel is morally and ethically the correct thing to do. The power of my office and the power of my moral fortitude will not allow to ceremonial rubber stamp something in question.
Who besides Trump and his crazy attorneys questioned the election results? Even Fox News agreed Trump lost the election. Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, and whoever Trumps staunchest Fox News allies don't even agree there was anything questionable about the election results.
 
You are not correct. the Congress must approve who would be appointed the new VP. It is not done by pure replacement. I would have resigned and said Trump will pick one and the Democrat controlled congress would never approve.

The sitting president cannot just replace a VP and if one is fired or resigned there is an appointment process and there must be Congressional approval.

I would have tendered my resignation on the grounds of circumstances surrounding the 2020 election. Have at Trump and have at it Congress. Have it Supreme Court. I would have not just handed the presidencey to Joe Biden in good faith. I would have said well, you all helped create the mess so, figure it out and it will end up at the congress and the court. I would have written that I have fulfilled the obligation of my office and by turning in my resignation I have further completed what I feel is morally and ethically the correct thing to do. The power of my office and the power of my moral fortitude will not allow to ceremonial rubber stamp something in question.
You're a lying idiot, trumptard, and a conspiracy believing sheep . But worst of all, you're an oath breaker. You continue to prove it.

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If it's the two of them again in 2024, Biden will be 80 and Trump 78 years old at that point, I will likely handle it the same way. Neither of them have impressed me while in the Oval Office, thus I am hoping the GOP finds some new blood somewhere (not DeSantis, who is an epic prick).

Understandable, but if Biden ends up being too awful it could compel enough people to come back and vote for Trump.

It's Biden's to lose. Really, the Democrats always have the built-in win if they don't blow it. High gas prices are likely enough to blow it. I can't imagine re-electing these gas prices just like I couldn't imagine re-electing a mask caver.

Could be in a time in history where we bob back and forth between terrible presidents.
 
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Understandable, but if Biden ends up being too awful it could compel enough people to come back and vote for Trump.

It's Biden's to lose. Really, the Democrats always have the built-in win if they don't blow it. High gas prices are likely enough to blow it. I can't imagine re-electing these gas prices just like I couldn't imagine re-electing a mask caver.

Could be in a time in history where we bob back and forth between terrible presidents.
Sadly, I think you may be right... What would be best for the country, and our democracy, would be a total reset by both major parties. IE, Biden says I'm too old, not running again, and Trump for whatever reason is not the GOP nominee, but it's certainly not looking that way.

Election 2024, pick between drinking bleach and drinking diesel fuel.
 
Who besides Trump and his crazy attorneys questioned the election results? Even Fox News agreed Trump lost the election. Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, and whoever Trumps staunchest Fox News allies don't even agree there was anything questionable about the election results.
Moat everyone deep down knows there was hanky panky going on. Now whether they are honest with themselves or not isna different story.
 
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What would be best for the country, and our democracy, would be a total reset by both major parties. IE, Biden says I'm too old, not running again, and Trump for whatever reason is not the GOP nominee, but it's certainly not looking that way.

Election 2024, pick between drinking bleach and drinking diesel fuel.

There's nobody else, but not just in this. In anything leadership. We will eventually get to the way it is in sports and everything else with this.

The big characters are dying off, getting old and getting replaced with nameless, faceless nothing really. The coach, manager and now really the president are just a lot of figureheaded nothingness.

They used to steal the show. Trump is the last show really. Biden's not even a show. He's just in there because the show blew it on masks and shutdowns. Trump is the last real leader as president just like Nick Saban is the last college football coach.

Everything will just run itself. When it does, Democrats will likely always win.
 
At last count 102 million or so people voted by mail in ballot or absentee during the 2020 election. Unprecidented situation with little real guidance or debate.

The laws and rules were changed or circuvented in the spring of 2020 by going around proper protocol of state legilslatures. Then the vetting process of all these ballots was never remvamped or tightened up or basically checked in the name of ethics or fairness.

Democrats are never, ever going to want to relinguish this or tighten it up or go through the proper process and go back. It is not about being fair or ethical. It was rushed through on the back of safety and covid. IT was a sham and fabrication.
 
At last count 102 million or so people voted by mail in ballot or absentee during the 2020 election. Unprecidented situation with little real guidance or debate.

The laws and rules were changed or circuvented in the spring of 2020 by going around proper protocol of state legilslatures. Then the vetting process of all these ballots was never remvamped or tightened up or basically checked in the name of ethics or fairness.

Democrats are never, ever going to want to relinguish this or tighten it up or go through the proper process and go back. It is not about being fair or ethical. It was rushed through on the back of safety and covid. IT was a sham and fabrication.
Yet no evidence of what you posted has been found. No rigged election, no voter fraud that would make the slightest difference, and your orange jesus lost in a free and fair election. You lying idiot trumptard oath breaker.
 
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