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Will China Invade Taiwan During Harris-Biden Administration?

I've got $5 that says they will.

I've got $5 that says you have not thought this through.

Why would China switch from a game they are winning to one they probably would not?

First, it's not like China can just sail in and take it over. Taiwan has 300k regular troops and a reserve of 3.6 million.

Second, let's think about what China would have to do to take Taiwan. It would be one of two ways. First, a blockade. This would actually be the easiest thing for the US to respond to, as that action would be an easy sell. China likes to act like they would want a naval confrontation with the US, but much like Russia and an air confrontation, they really do not want that. They like to play little intimidation games to look tough and use photos and video to look tough to their people. Right now, today, we have two carrier groups in/near Japan. China is not fvcking with that. The second way would be to missile strike the shit out of Taiwan. That is bad juju, the kind of dumb shit that would piss off every nation that would potentially back the USA.

China's game is soft power. It's economic, it's building roads and ports in places they want to use for resources. It's the world being dependent on its cheap shit....tariffs lol, China grew exports under US tariffs. Fvck around bad enough and then countries consider actual national boycotts of their shit.

China's leadership is rational and smart. They are not crazy Arabs.
 
Well this response makes me feel better about Biden & China.
All this hand-wringing about Biden and China while sitting quiet the last four years as it concerns Trump and Putin...now, it was just discovered Russia launched a cyber attack against the US on Trump's watch.

But please... let's go on about a Biden-China conspiracy theory.
 
All this hand-wringing about Biden and China while sitting quiet the last four years as it concerns Trump and Putin...now, it was just discovered Russia launched a cyber attack against the US on Trump's watch.

But please... let's go on about a Biden-China conspiracy theory.

It's not like we can really respond to the Russians. An escalation in cyberwar would be good for no one, and believe me we could escalate right now if we wanted to.

But to not even talk about it or condemn Russia? That is what is amazing...or not, given what any of you might think about Trump. Hell, from a campaign standpoint it would have been a good rally-around-the-flag moment for Trump, that makes it even more bizarre....and a way for Trump to say "see, I told you I am not Putin's boy."
 
The Chinese have infiltrated politicians,, our govt, and businesses. They bribe and steal patents. They spy on us. They are big military threat. They ****ed.us with the virus.

At some point they need punched in the mouth
 
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They did it to
Hong Kong they will at some point try it Taiwan

No. Hong Kong was already now China's. All China has done to Hong Kong is violate the principle of "one country, two systems" as outlined in the Sino-British Joint Declaration.

This is apples to oranges as it can be.

Taiwan has a legit military. Taiwan's air force is larger than those of France, Britain, and Saudi Arabia. Taiwan has a larger army than Iran.
 
All this hand-wringing about Biden and China while sitting quiet the last four years as it concerns Trump and Putin...now, it was just discovered Russia launched a cyber attack against the US on Trump's watch.

But please... let's go on about a Biden-China conspiracy theory.
Again, I didn't vote for Trump. Either time. Trump's leaving office & we're paying the price for his inaction on Russia.

But please, let's pretend Joe & the career politicians he's brining aren't already in the business of kowtowing to China.
 
I've got $5 that says you have not thought this through.

Why would China switch from a game they are winning to one they probably would not?

First, it's not like China can just sail in and take it over. Taiwan has 300k regular troops and a reserve of 3.6 million.

Second, let's think about what China would have to do to take Taiwan. It would be one of two ways. First, a blockade. This would actually be the easiest thing for the US to respond to, as that action would be an easy sell. China likes to act like they would want a naval confrontation with the US, but much like Russia and an air confrontation, they really do not want that. They like to play little intimidation games to look tough and use photos and video to look tough to their people. Right now, today, we have two carrier groups in/near Japan. China is not fvcking with that. The second way would be to missile strike the shit out of Taiwan. That is bad juju, the kind of dumb shit that would piss off every nation that would potentially back the USA.

China's game is soft power. It's economic, it's building roads and ports in places they want to use for resources. It's the world being dependent on its cheap shit....tariffs lol, China grew exports under US tariffs. Fvck around bad enough and then countries consider actual national boycotts of their shit.

China's leadership is rational and smart. They are not crazy Arabs.
The bet is on. Statistically it's unlikely Biden lives another 4 years but I'm not too worried about him doing anything of substance to prevent it anyway.
 
The bet is on.

Then send me my $5, because it is obvious you did not think it through.

Taiwan can inflict real damage on China's navy and air force. They are not a pushover. They have F-16s (by 2023, they will have 120 V spec), Mirages, and their own domestic fighter that is more than serviceable and was designed largely by US defense and aerospace contractors. They rock Harpoon missiles.

This would not be Russian rolling into Ukraine...not militarily, and not how pissed off the world would be.
 
If the Chinx roll into Taiwan we weill be in there along with Great Britain, Australia, and we might let the South Koreans in some action and they hate the Chinese. Others might join.

China will probably just keep buying off our politicians and big companies . They are a real threat though.

Biden, I will say, is going to be severely tested. The Iranians are already do it. The Chinx will among others.
 
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What "inaction"?
I'm talking purely about cybersecurity improvements. Granted, civilians only have some idea but on the cybersecurity front, the Trump administration isn't heads & shoulders above the Obama administration when it comes to this.
 
From Reuters today:
TAIPEI, Jan 24 (Reuters) - A total of 15 Chinese aircraft including 12 fighter jets entered the southwestern corner of Taiwan's air defence identification zone on Sunday, the island's defence ministry said, the second day of incursions by China.

A map provided by the ministry showed the Chinese aircraft again flew in between the southern part of Taiwan and the Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands in the South China Sea. (Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Edmund Blair)
 
We will find out how serious Joe(really Obama, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer) are about China. Let's see what he does with doctrine that was put in place.
 
We will find out how serious Joe(really Obama, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer) are about China. Let's see what he does with doctrine that was put in place.
While stating concerns, Blinken has said some surprising things on China. Mainly that Trump was right on the basic principal. Also admitting that he agrees with Pompeo's recent accusation that China is committing genocide. Be interesting to see how flexible they are with these viewpoints.
 
While stating concerns, Blinken has said some surprising things on China. Mainly that Trump was right on the basic principal. Also admitting that he agrees with Pompeo's recent accusation that China is committing genocide. Be interesting to see how flexible they are with these viewpoints.
We will see. I hope The new President By Committee takes China seriously.
 
And not funneling money through your family

As usual, you believe the unfounded allegations made by the liar in chief and the despicable giulliani for information. They're such a great source of facts. You are an idiot. The biggest idiot on the board.
 
As usual, you believe the unfounded allegations made by the liar in chief and the despicable giulliani for information. They're such a great source of facts. You are an idiot. The biggest idiot on the board.
Yehh hunter was really qualified. Vast experience
 
In very important news, Biden, is excpected to lift the ban on transgenders in the military and will also issue memorandum that they are to serve in leadership positions. It is not sure whether they can actually deploy because of medications. Diabetics cannot as the military' cannot guarantee delivery of medications in combat zones.

But, hey transgender's are important to a war fighting machine. I am sure the Red Army is nervous now.
 
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