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However, make no mistake, while people may make such asinine money wasteful expenditures for quality and comfort, such purchases are made even more for status, acceptance, braggadocio, etc. Look no farther than this thread.
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Nope. There was no boasting in this thread. It was to mock the banker for his claim that I needed somebody to buy things for me. And there is no "status" associated with wearing those things, as none of them have labels/tags on them stating what they are.


Funny how that works, redistribute wealth . . . as long as it's not theirs. And spare me the sob stories of the children you purchase a few toys and clothes for in order to play hide the salami with their mommy.

They don't have "mommies." That is why they are orphans. And the few toys . . . per month . . . to go along with the time invested, the experiences/opportunities, the drywall, the paint, the new flooring, the televisions, the bedroom furniture, and the construction I provided.

A $2500 leather bag? That goes against every fiber of my instincts. I'll stick to my $100ish backpack, it works equally as well for an overnight hike as it does as a carry-on.

And the $12 backpack I bought from Marshalls or the $15 bag I bought off of Brad's Deals work well for their intended purpose. But in no way can they measure up to the quality or appearance of your $100 backpack or the quality or appearance of a $2500 bag.

That $15 bag gets a hole in it? Too bad. It has a screw come out of a handle or the fabric start to fray? Oh well. It uses plastic straps that rip after 12 months instead of leather with padded grips that lasts for many, many years? Too bad.

What I don't buy is a $1000 sweater is practically of better quality than a $100-$200 one. Maybe the $1000 one caresses your nipples or some shit.

That's because you aren't educated/experienced on it.

You can get a $100 wool sweater compared with a $1000 high-quality cashmere. The wool sweater will keep your warm. Due to its components, it may actually make you too hot and not allow your body to breath. However, cashmere has insulation capacity up to 8x that of wool. It maintains your body temperature. Cashmere fibers are much smaller, thus denser, than wool. It has a much softer texture and not the coarse, scratchy feel of many wools. Cashmere is also not bulky like wool and is much lighter. Want to wash/dry wool? Good luck with that. Cashmere can be dried without shrinking.

You can get a $200 cashmere sweater, which to most people, is pretty expensive for a sweater. However, there is a good chance that cashmere comes from China instead of Italy, where the best cashmere is produced. I won't bore you with the specifics of high quality cashmere vs. cheap cashmere, but again, there are very important differences between the two which results in softer fibers, longer lasting material, not losing its shape, and other benefits to paying more for better cashmere.

For the most part, these high-cost garments are using the best materials available. The $100 wool sweater and $200 cashmere, though effective in terms of keeping somebody warm or serving a particular purpose, simply don't have the same benefits the more expensive (assuming you're a smart consumer and realize the differences) cashmere will provide.
 
It's funny you would start this rant by comparing totally opposite ends of the spectrum. I'm not telling you to go buy the Natty Ice of clothes (even though I sincerely believe these Sam's jeans are better than Levi's, which are now made of a thin and inferior denim compared to their past products). I'm telling you the $12 six pack of beer is plenty good compared to some obscure imported bomber for $30. I'm saying this LL Bean hoodie I wore today still looks and feels good after 10 years, and I doubt one costing $1000 would do any better.

Exactly, and the difference between a $6.00 six-pack of cheap beer to an expensive $12.00 six-pack is nowhere near equivalent in your $15 jeans and his $1000 pair. By that logic, you should be willing to purchase craft beer at $591 per six-pack
 
Exactly, and the difference between a $6.00 six-pack of cheap beer to an expensive $12.00 six-pack is nowhere near equivalent in your $15 jeans and his $1000 pair. By that logic, you should be willing to purchase craft beer at $591 per six-pack
you buy, i'll fly . . .
 
you buy, i'll fly . . .

Yeah, but I don't value the quality of that $591 beer. I have heard it gives you the most pleasant beer sh!ts that smell like expensive cologne. I don't know, I'd have to ask Rifle.
 
Exactly, and the difference between a $6.00 six-pack of cheap beer to an expensive $12.00 six-pack is nowhere near equivalent in your $15 jeans and his $1000 pair. By that logic, you should be willing to purchase craft beer at $591 per six-pack

Christ, the lack of intelligence in this post is baffling.

First, he didn't use $6 beer vs. $12 beer. He used $12 and $30.

Second, you're trying to compare the cheapest available beer compared with some more expensive gas station beer. That would be like comparing the cheapest available jeans at Walmart compared to some more expensive jeans at Walmart. A more logical comparison would be comparing the cheapest available beer (your $6 claim) vs. some of the most expensive beer you can find in the world. In doing so, you'll see that you will be paying around that $600 for some of the best/most exclusive beer in the world.

The Gucci pants which you both are referencing are not simply a $12 case of beer. A $12 case of beer is far, far from the best quality beer you can get. These Gucci pants aren't far from the very best pants available to buy in the world.

Let me dumb this down for you, since you clearly need it:

$6 pack of beer = cheapest jeans you can find at Walmart
$12 pack of beer = most expensive jeans you can find at Walmart
$591 pack of beer = some very nice jeans, but not the best pants in the world
best beer you can find in the world = the Gucci slacks

Further, neither of the pants were "jeans." They were both slacks. As I have said, the quality of the materials, craftsmanship, comfort, service, aesthetics, and durability far outweigh what a $12 pack of beer provides compared to other beer.
 
That's because you aren't educated/experienced on it.

You can get a $100 wool sweater compared with a $1000 high-quality cashmere.

I don't wear wool. I wear synthetics for a shell and fill and then layer if necessary. Otherwise, even your $1000 cashmere will make me hot. I am a goddamn natural furnace.

You can rationalize this stuff all you wish. It isn't for me, even if I had a billion bucks. I would drop $200k on a Porsche and not even blink, but to me that is different. I wouldn't drop $80k on a pickup like people do these days, how the fvck are you going to actually do truck things with that and not shit every time you scratch and dent it?
 
A more logical comparison would be comparing the cheapest available beer (your $6 claim) vs. some of the most expensive beer you can find in the world. In doing so, you'll see that you will be paying around that $600 for some of the best/most exclusive beer in the world..

I'm fairly convinced Trappistes Rochefort 10 is the best beer in the world. I get it for $8 a bottle.
 
I don't wear wool. I wear synthetics for a shell and fill and then layer if necessary. Otherwise, even your $1000 cashmere will make me hot. I am a goddamn natural furnace.

Yeah, that's exactly the point. Instead of layering in order to stay warm, like you said you would do to stay warm, you get to wear just one garment which is not bulky, is soft, and is comfortable. That's why cashmere is so revered. It regulates body temperature as it does the damn animals it is sheered from.

I, too, am constantly hot. Girls claim that I am a human heat blanket while sleeping. High quality cashmere allows you to stay warm in cool weather and cool even in warmer weather. Why? Because it regulates body temperature for humans as it does sheep.

I would drop $200k on a Porsche and not even blink, but to me that is different.

Oh, do explain. You'd pay that much more for a Porsche because it is faster, handles better, may be more comfortable to sit in, may look better, etc., right?

How is that different than buying a garment that can keep you warmer on its own when needed, keep you cooler on its own when needed, lasts longer, feels more comfortable on your skin, and looks better?

It's the same damn thing. You're paying more for something that does its job far better.

I'm fairly convinced Trappistes Rochefort 10 is the best beer in the world. I get it for $8 a bottle.

Well, it's not considered the best or most expensive in the world. Regardless, let's look at the logic behind this:

ML referenced a six-pack of cheap beer for $6. So $1/can. You referenced the "best" being $8/bottle. That already is paying 8x more than a regular beer you could get. Ignoring any difference in ounces between the two containers, you're paying 8X more for the same thing: beer. Right? You claim it is the best in the world, which is not a commonly held belief, so you don't find it unreasonable to pay 8X more.

Now, go back to your $15 Sam's Club jeans. Would you pay $120 for far better jeans? Why not? You'll pay 8X more for far better beer, why wouldn't you do the same for far better jeans?
 
So you bought it because it made life better/more comfortable. In other words, you contradicted your own statement to me.




Listen, regardless of what Murox the Moron tries telling you, all of my stories are true. Do you really think I need anyone to buy me anything? What exactly do you think she is going to buy me: A Gulfstream G550? A $20 million beach mansion? Why would you think I would be interested in what she can buy me?

Today, I went to Gucci, Armani, and Neiman Marcus. Here were my purchases:

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That's a $1900 sweater, a $375 polo, a $975 blazer/jacket, a $1000 pair of pants, and a $1475 briefcase . . . all bought today.

And in case you think these may be pictures from the past, here is today's receipt with today's date on it:

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Then, I went to Gucci and bought these pants for $885:

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And again, if you think it may be an old picture/purchase, here is a picture of the receipt showing my name and today's date. Oh, and you can also see that I have a customer ID because I am on their "First Look" group, which allows the two dozen of us to get access to all of their new arrivals before anyone else is able to see/buy them:

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From there, I went to Neiman Marcus. I didn't find anything that I liked, but I did find something to give to the children at the children's house. It's a $400 giraffe chair. The younger kids will love sitting and playing on it. I felt bad that it would only be able to go in either the boys' or girls' bedroom, so I asked if there was any way I could order one. That particular Neiman Marcus doesn't have one, but the manager said that she knew a store in a city about 30 minutes away has a zebra one. She is calling me tomorrow to see if they still have it, so that way I can put one in the boys' bedroom and one in the girls' bedroom.

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And here's the receipt showing today's date, my name, and the store showing that it wasn't an old purchase:

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Oh, and these were purchased for $14 on 11/30 from Walmart. They are Nerf-like material, but also have a Bluetooth speaker built in. So the older kids have a football to play with and, if they have a smart phone, can play music through the football. They are rechargeable so they don't need to keep getting batteries.

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Excluding the Walmart footballs, that totals around $7500 with tax that I paid for clothes, a briefcase, and the giraffe chair. So tell me, what exactly do you think I need a sugar momma' to buy for me that I don't already buy for myself?

As the owner/president of the Lakers, she'd be able to provide far better things than materialistic things.

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Dang I grew up wearing hand me downs and yard sale clothes. Maybe some new tough skin blue Jeans for Christmas. My mom made some clothes.

This guy is talking about 2 grand for sweaters .

And trying to tell rationalize it. I am all for quality but that us ludicrous
 
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You can get a Civic with leather? I had no idea, I've never seen one. And I've owned two, not even my Si had leather. *

*I went and looked...holy shit, you can indeed now get a Civic with leather. However that model only comes with a CVT transmission, and thus I have never bothered to look at or build one on the website.
They tried upselling me to leather when I purchased my Civic, I told them that I do not want to stick to my seats, nor do I want to fry my legs all summer.
 
Dang I grew up wearing hand me downs and yard sale clothes. Maybe some new tough skin blue Jeans for Christmas. My mom made some clothes.

This guy is talking about 2 grand for sweaters .

And trying to tell rationalize it. I am all for quality but that us ludicrous

Right. It is not in our instinct. Like I said, even if I had a billion dollars, no way. I'm two generations removed from a cabin in the woods lol.
 
Yeah, that's exactly the point. Instead of layering in order to stay warm, like you said you would do to stay warm, you get to wear just one garment which is not bulky, is soft, and is comfortable. That's why cashmere is so revered. It regulates body temperature as it does the damn animals it is sheered from.

I, too, am constantly hot. Girls claim that I am a human heat blanket while sleeping. High quality cashmere allows you to stay warm in cool weather and cool even in warmer weather. Why? Because it regulates body temperature for humans as it does sheep.

And then it rains. So much for one layer.

I'd take off my jeans for shorts at work if I didn't think that would look weird. As it is I wear shorts even in the 30s if it is not windy.

Oh, do explain. You'd pay that much more for a Porsche because it is faster, handles better, may be more comfortable to sit in, may look better, etc., right?

Nah. It's because I want particular exterior and interior colors that are special order (something from the 70s), and because I want it to be MY Porsche and I'd customize every damn part of it. You ever play with the Porsche configurator? That custom shit adds up. Frankly if I just want to go fast I'd buy a Corvette, or a plain Porsche.

Well, it's not considered the best or most expensive in the world.

It is a consensus Top Five beer. And at that point you are picking the style you like best.

Now, go back to your $15 Sam's Club jeans. Would you pay $120 for far better jeans? Why not? You'll pay 8X more for far better beer, why wouldn't you do the same for far better jeans?

I am not convinced they would be 8x better jeans. Jeans are a sore point with me, since high school I was a Levi's guy, then they got cheap with the material. I don't need the BEST material, I just want something that does not tear easy and isn't as thin as women's pants. Oddly, I would pay 2x as much for the same jeans...they just work for me. $15 is just icing on the cake. And I could not care less what is on the label, I am too old to give a shit. At a certain point, say 0 degrees and windy, I'll pull out the LL Bean flannel lined jeans....and still want to take them off in the office.

I think my whole layers thing is from living in the mountains. Varying temps at elevations, varying weather, sudden changing conditions, a reality of possibly freezing to death if wrecked or stranded. My entire outerwear collection is built on layering. I guess your $1000 sweater would work as a 2nd layer...a t-shirt is always layer one, because I sweat like a pig indoors, motherfvckers always cranking up the office heat.
 
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