There you go again, throwing up false flags. I’ve not yet a single person that’s said there isn’t opportunity for cost savings. It not the what. It’s the how. I’ve said that ten times over.
And again, spewing up the Fox taking points.
Zelensky is wearing on Trump's nerves.
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And again, spewing up the Fox taking points.
A few points:
1. When did Ukraine become an ally? Can you name the times they have supported us militarily or in any geopolitical way?
2. Please tell me why it’s significant that Musk, a federal employee hired by a duly elected President, should not be able to work for the govt because he is foreign born or rich? Should those be disqualifying characteristics for federal employment?
3. Do you believe that someone’s age and high intelligence disqualifies them from making logical recommendations? It seems so from your statement. Should we rely on perhaps old and stupid people to drive efficiency? Because that kind of describes Congress and that hasn’t worked out well.
Zelensky willing to give up presidency in exchange for peace or NATO membership
Zelenskyy says he’s willing to give up presidency for peace in Ukraine or NATO membership
Zelenskyy offered a major concession amid escalating tensions and false claims from Trump over the origin of the war.
www.nbcnews.com
I rarely watch Fox anymore.
How would you like them to do it? They naysayers are going to scream like children.
You can start by allowing the department heads to make the decisions. They know better than anyone else who their top performers are. You say to every department head, we need a X percentage reduction in personnel and give them a few weeks to make the decision and plan for restructuring.
You could do the same with overall budgets.
Hmmm... Kind of like this???
White House eyes 8% cut to defense budget to boost Trump priorities
The move could reduce defense spending projections by hundreds of billions of dollars over the next five years.
www.militarytimes.com
And I didn't even have to watch Fox News to tell me what to think...
The department heads are a big part of the problem. We have ended up with them becoming another branch of government. They won't change anything.
Well damn….Hmmm... Kind of like this???
White House eyes 8% cut to defense budget to boost Trump priorities
The move could reduce defense spending projections by hundreds of billions of dollars over the next five years.www.militarytimes.com
And I didn't even have to watch Fox News to tell me what to think...
Didn't Trump just appoint new apartment heads? How do you think Kash Patel feels about Musk?
But that's not what is happening, isn't consistent, and the Musk misaligment is causing confusion.Hmmm... Kind of like this???
White House eyes 8% cut to defense budget to boost Trump priorities
The move could reduce defense spending projections by hundreds of billions of dollars over the next five years.www.militarytimes.com
And I didn't even have to watch Fox News to tell me what to think...
My reference to allies was in response to NATO and our European allies. We entered this effort in coordination. That said, Ukraine has been independent since 1991 and has supported the U.S. publicly and politically since then. At the behest of the U.S. and NATO they have significantly grown and modernized their military over those decades. Publically, we've referred to one another as allies.
Didn't say he shouldn't be able to work for the government but then again, I am not sure he does. I am not exactly clear what he does other than make bombastic tweets about all his bloated and wildly overembellished DOGE accomplishments. But, I am seriously concerned about his tactics and motives. I think he is disingenuous.
I believe age begets experience and experience is prudent when making billion-dollar fiscal and personnel decisions. I don't believe a single one of you truly thinks that anyone of any age or intellect could properly vet and make decisions about any large entity 48 hours after seeing the books. You don't make decisions by reading budget line items or glancing at personnel files. An experienced auditor would have asked, "What is this line item?" or, "What is this person's role?" and only made decisions after that. Otherwise, we wouldn't be hiring and then attempting to rehire nuclear inspectors.
There are many factors at play here but the underlying truth is we have a bloated federal government that has been politicized, is self-serving and unaccountable. It didn’t take Fox News to make me aware of that.
For my adult life the mainstream press has been 90+% liberal. Again I didn't need Fox News to tell me that. Market forces and an expansion from traditional media outlets have upset the status quo which causes many to lose their minds and we see that everyday.
Is their misinformation and disinformation as well as just plain bad information from both sides? Absolutely.
Is Musk a strange dude? Absolutely! Did he have unlimited access like the media, and it's unquestioning followers believed? I rather doubt it. It was very likely read only like virtually all forensic audits are.
The media screamed, and their unquestioning followers agree, that it was dangerous for the richest man in the world to have our SS#s. Do you really think he couldn't get them if he wanted to? I'm more worried about the anonymous and lower paid private and government employees that have access to this data instead.
I love our country but truly believe it, and has been, especially over the last four years been going in the wrong direction. If the government had been less self-serving and more accountable you likely wouldn't have had Trump and then Musk. But the easy way out is to dismiss anyone who thinks otherwise than the status quo as "cult members" brainwashed by Trump and Fox News. The information I research and analyze suggests otherwise.
Let me ask you one question with regard to low hanging fruit.
With the size, scope and budget of the Social Security Administration do you think it is excusable or unexcusable that the SSA knowingly has almost 20 million people in its system over 150 years old?
^^^STUPID LYING GODLESS OATHBREAKING MAGAT HYPOCRITE IS ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE PENDING TAX CUT FOR THE RICH THAT WILL CREATE $4 TRILLION IN DEBT.
I don't know how he feels about Musk. I am referring to department heads below the political appointments. The permanent beuracracy.
I mean, this pretty much sums up every liberal on here and their constant, scripted reaction to everything Trump does.
"Allies" in the sense we've handed them hundreds of millions worth of military equipment and munitions, sent them $ billions in cash for their political elites to steal, and offered us money laundering services for our political elites and CIA.
Says the idiot that believes every lie from his orange jesus and apostle elon.
^^^says the phlegmwad that supported and defended a 20 year war in afghanistan that accomplished next to nothing and cost TRILLIONS
You have to stop believing all the dumb sh*t Musk and Trump tweet. Musk misread the data, got excited, and like he has ten times over in the last month fired off an inaccurate or out of context tweet bragging. He looks like a complete tool but I am sure, just like the 50 million in condoms to Gaza, he'll just say, "My bad for the mistake" and carry on.
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/supplement/2024/5a.html#table5.a1
There are only 67 million people total on SSA. Less than 0.1% of them are older than 100 years old. None are 150.
Keep on making excuses for him but this not the way you audit a trillion dollar business.
Again…where on earth do you come up with this nonsense?
And, yes, many people could….for the record.
See, this is where the disconnect comes in and TDS starts rearing its ugly head.
Where did I ever say or give any indication I follow Musk's tweets, believe them or make excuses for them? But it's easier to say "but Trump", cult or Fox News.
Now back to my question that your link doesn't address...
There are approximately 20 million individuals in the SSA database over 100 years old that while they aren't necessarily receiving benefits like Musk evidently first assumed, are showing as still living. The SSA is and has been aware of this yet made no efforts to correct the situation.
Can you answer whether this is acceptable or not without referencing Trump, Musk or Fox News?
So you think you can take the books for a 40 billion dollar company and 48 hours later make decisions about who needs to be fired, what every line item entails, which should be cut, who should be fired, etc.?
You don't think you should explore and ask any qualitative questions or at least solicit the input of even a single one of the 10,000 employees that work there?
You just look at the books and start cutting programs and firing employees?
All of that is nonsense?
TDS. Weak.
The source for the stats you are citing originated with a Must tweet so yeah, you have to do a better job of vetting his tweets.
It isn't "the" SSA database. It's one of their databases. Like I said before, I work for a billion-dollar company. We have hundreds of databases. Some are shuttered, others measure various other things. At a company this size, the single source of truth is relative to the question or task.
But I digress. Should I care if 20 million people over the age of 100 are in that particular database, a database that doesn't determine who receives SSA benefits? If they aren't receiving benefits, and the database isn't driving anything else of significance, I don't care.
I assume the SSA has a single source of truth that determines who is paid SSA. If there were dead people in that database, showing as alive, still receiving benefits, I would care.
You realize most of the people who are being fired are new hires or contracted employees who haven’t even began work yet, correct? Are you aware of that fact?
And yet again you assume wrongly and come off as a condescending #####...
Office of the Inspector General
The Office of the Inspector General is directly responsible for meeting the statutory mission of promoting economy, efficiency, and effectiveness in the administration of Social Security Administration programs and operations and to prevent and detect fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement in...
oig.ssa.gov
2023 report that references 18.9 million individuals in the (not THE - but then again, shouldn't the databases be RELATIONAL?) Social Security database... Find it in the index. Point being, I'm referencing independent information but your TDS can't let you get past Musk tweets...
You do realize that if a tenured employee is promoted or transferred, their probationary period resets, and they were fired, right? Some folks termed had more than a decade of experience.
You realize that many of the "new hires" had been in their roles for close to a year and often were replacements in critical positions, right? Being new doesn't mean the role itself isn't critical.
These are the things you uncover when you approach the process strategically and qualitatively while involving the supervisors, or allowing department heads to make the cuts.
Again, I don't have an issue with downsizing. I have an issue with how it's being handled.
If you think all databases in companies of this size are all relational, you've never worked at a company this size, let alone in the government where most of their CRMs are antiquated. In my industry alone I have databases that are segregated completely because they contain patient healthcare records.And yet again you assume wrongly and come off as a condescending #####...
Office of the Inspector General
The Office of the Inspector General is directly responsible for meeting the statutory mission of promoting economy, efficiency, and effectiveness in the administration of Social Security Administration programs and operations and to prevent and detect fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement in...oig.ssa.gov
2023 report that references 18.9 million individuals in the (not THE - but then again, shouldn't the databases be RELATIONAL?) Social Security database... Find it in the index. Point being, I'm referencing independent information but your TDS can't let you get past Musk tweets...
Musk made the tweet claiming we were paying SSA to people 150 years old. If he hadn't, you wouldn't be researching it. His tweet was the catalyst.
And again, if they aren't receiving benefits, I don't care.
ALL databases??? Kind of like THE SSA database. You keep stretching things...
Name, address, date of birth and date of death which is what we are talking about. These should be indexed fields. If you update a date of death it should be relational and update it across the datafiles or at least periodically updated, especially when it is a known issue. But we keep ignoring known issues...
Hmmm... you seem to keep changing the narrative...
But I thought I mindlessly accepted every one of Musk's tweets...
See your contradictions???
That tells me you are disingenuous in addition to being condescending...
So again consistent data integrity isn't important to you. Got it.
Your reading comprehension is mindboggling.
My narrative hasn't changed at all.
You are rambling on about SSA databases not aligning because Musk made some outlandish and now debunked tweet so now you are trying to save face.
It is not at all uncommon for databases of information to not be fully aligned and not all data pulls are live. I am sorry you are struggling to understand that.
Nonethless, we are beating a dead horse here.
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Because it goes against your changing narrative???
Your BS just keeps getting deeper... You projected on me that I bought into this hook line and sinker because of Trump's and Musk's Tweets and my marching orders from Fox News.
Show me where I posted any thing about the SSA consistently paying benefits to dead people.
It's either TDS or you're just stupid. Trying to save face??? I used the SSA's own numbers from 2023 and you said I was using Musk's even after I provided the source to you.
Musk's numbers didn't look or sound right and I went to data sources. There is a known issue about the "undead" in the SSA database (again not THE...). Actually that is part of the problem - there is not one THE but you couldn't comprehend that so why go there.
I'm calling your BS yet again.
As for relational databases, date of death is a pretty important field. Since you can't wrap your head around it I'll try to help. You write some code to populate that field if someone is over 100 years old and not receiving benefits. Problem addressed and solved. The SSA has known about this for some time but has yet to address it.
That addresses data integrity now and should help prevent future problems as software platforms are modernized and updated.
Elon Musk tweeted that so it has to be true... That's sarcasm because I'm pretty sure there is no sense of humor in your world...
Trump says Putin will accept European peacekeepers in Ukraine
U.S. leader’s remarks came during a lightning visit by French President Emmanuel Macron.
www.politico.eu
Trump says Putin will accept European peacekeepers in Ukraine
Ukraine war latest: Ukraine, US reach agreement on minerals deal
Key developments on Feb. 25: * Ukraine, US reach agreement on minerals deal * Russia's war objectives 'not yet achieved,' Kremlin's ambassador says * Reclaiming occupied territories possible but 'not easy' for Ukraine, Trump claims * Ukraine needs $524 billion for recovery, reconstruction...
kyivindependent.com
Ukraine, US reach agreement on minerals deal
The latest draft of the agreement drops earlier U.S. demands for a $500 billion claim over Ukraine’s natural resources, which had been a major sticking point, according to the Ukrainian media outlet Economic Pravda, which has seen the agreement.
Under the revised terms, the fund will receive 50% of revenues from Ukraine’s resource-related infrastructure, including ports. Joint ownership will be determined based on actual financial contributions, and while management will be shared, the U.S. will have decision-making authority under its own laws.
Do King Trump's bidding.Ukraine war latest: Ukraine, US reach agreement on minerals deal
Key developments on Feb. 25: * Ukraine, US reach agreement on minerals deal * Russia's war objectives 'not yet achieved,' Kremlin's ambassador says * Reclaiming occupied territories possible but 'not easy' for Ukraine, Trump claims * Ukraine needs $524 billion for recovery, reconstruction...kyivindependent.com
Ukraine, US reach agreement on minerals deal
The latest draft of the agreement drops earlier U.S. demands for a $500 billion claim over Ukraine’s natural resources, which had been a major sticking point, according to the Ukrainian media outlet Economic Pravda, which has seen the agreement.
Under the revised terms, the fund will receive 50% of revenues from Ukraine’s resource-related infrastructure, including ports. Joint ownership will be determined based on actual financial contributions, and while management will be shared, the U.S. will have decision-making authority under its own laws.
