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ODU vs Georgia Southern

ODU takes out free spot.

MU football has now, as predicted, moved to Stage III of the CH sycophant fan system.

I - (preseason - non-conference loss) MU is gonna be great this year!!!!!
II- (non-conference loss - conference loss) were still 0-0 where it counts!!!!!
III - (conference loss - second conference loss) If SBC E 1 loses to SBC E 2 and SBC 2 loses to SBC E 3 and.... we can still win the division!!!!!!
IV - (could happen to doesn't happen) I read on some website that we should get to the Advance Auto Parts Pre-Christmas Random unused stadium Bowl, presented by Hyundai!!!!!
V - (bowl selection day) I hear Glenn's has some Leonard's Wrecker Service Pre-Christmas Random unused stadium Bowl, presented by Pearl River Milling Co. syrup shirts!!!!!!!!
VI - (bowl loss) AD just released a statement, it is "unacceptable", CH will be renewed for another year, but there will be real changes coming, he hired (some guy) from (some random school) as "assistant head coach" and I hear that (Johnny Nostars) who couldn't make it at (random P4 bottom feeder) is transferring in!!!!!!!!!

Reset to Stage I. Begin to talk about how basketball really doesn't matter until March, root on the soccer team, hope baseball can actually have a winning record, root on some guy or gal who makes the golf or track regionals.
I hate to say this, REALLY hate to say this, but this has been the pattern for much of the last 20 years, and the exceptions have been more often the Herd having been effectively eliminated early rather than eliminated the last week or two of the season.
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CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

Yet another post where you can’t be honest. There is definitely a trend here. You going to back track from this one too?
The issue, once again, is horrendous reading comprehension by you lifelong west virginia educated deplorables.

There is a major distinction between the two things you attempted to argue he said that contradicted each other. In one, he was referring to "engaging" on this board. In the other, he was talking about visiting/reading this board.

Engaging would mean posting on here. Reading is entirely different.

Learn to read.

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

I didn’t say I sporadically visit.
I only engage on this particular board sporadically
Yet another post where you can’t be honest. There is definitely a trend here. You going to back track from this one too?
My comments made perfect sense
Exactly. Your comment supported the point Rock was making and undercut your own position. Maybe it was poor grammar or simply not being able to express yourself effectively in writing, but that’s exactly what you did.

My remark about “attack” mode was in reference to your unwillingness to have a productive conversation
Unfortunately your concept of productive conversation equates to blindly accepting your inaccurate and intentionally dishonest claims about what others are saying. I’m willing to have an open honest conversation. Doesn’t appear you have after I offered my opinion that contradicted yours.

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

Clearly you haven’t followed this entire thread.

Hmmm...

Clearly you said this...

Trump did not see any gains in manufacturing jobs under his administration.

Trump did see manufacturing gains during his administration - pre-Covid...

Hmmm... Clearly you said this...

So you want to blame Obama for the 2008 housing crash but you don't want to hold Trump accountable for Covid?

And I said the housing crash was primarily on Bill Clinton and Barney Frank (and should have included George W. Bush to a lesser degree).

The crash was the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. If that's how you see it, no reason to debate it.

Actually Covid was likely worse than the housing bubble. You seem to give credit to Obama for the job recovery which would naturally occur to a degree over time and also give credit to Biden for the post-Covid recovery which would also naturally occur to a degree over time.

I simply compared where the numbers were pre and post housing bubble and pre and post Covid and not attributing the low points to any of the three.

I don't see how any of this warrants your snarky remarks but that's on you and not me. Have a nice weekend.

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

This article only accounts for his first two years in office.

In addition to Covid shut-downs beginning in 2020 manufacturing jobs were also affected by chip shortages during this same time and is just now recovering.


"Supply issues continued for over three years, impacting industries such as consumer electronics and artificial intelligence."

Another consideration - how much did government monies stimulate post 2020 manufacturing growth? And what may the effect be as these monies dry up?

Things aren't looking good for automakers right now.


"After nearly two years of record low inventory, automakers are finally bringing more cars to the U.S. market. New car inventory is rising as we enter October 2024. Inventory now exceeds historical norms, following a few years of shortages."
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CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

So you thought you would come add another zero? And parrot? Nice going. Listen, we know you think you are really smart but most all of us know that isn't the case.

Thanks for your message board resume. I don't think anyone was really curious how long you've been around, we know it's been a long time.
Somebody needs a hug.

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

This can be directly traced to Clinton and Barney Frank's lending policies. The liberal NY Times at the timee predicted what would happen which ultimately did happen.




2008 - 15.1MM
2016 - 14.8MM net loss 300k

2019 pre-Covid - 15.1 net gain 300k

2023 14.9MM - net loss from pre-Covid amounts 200k

Manufacturing jobs recovered during Obama's and Biden's terms from financial downturns. Did Trump merely continue the recovery or did he spur actual job growth with his perceived manufacturing friendly policies?

Man if you consider that an attack you belong on another board. I've been more than accommodative and asked questions and pointed out your comments that make no sense. If you cant handle it, maybe you dont belong here. We see why you only sporadically visit. You dont offer much.
It’s good we have you to let folks know who should or shouldn’t be here.

I didn’t say I sporadically visit. I visit every day and have for a few decades now.

My comments made perfect sense. You may not agree or have a different perspective or opinion but that doesn’t mean they don’t make sense.

My remark about “attack” mode was in reference to your unwillingness to have a productive conversation so you attack the other person rather than the topic at hand.

Venture Capital

One of the two brothers in the above story . . . I referenced him in the two posts below where I called him a piece of shit, etc.

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In early 2021, I had words with him after he continued posting antagonistic and bogus bullshit on his Instagram. He's a die-hard trumper. We had just hired his friend (unbeknownst to me and greatly downplayed to my other partner) to be our CEO, who tried intervening in our dispute. I told both my piece-of-shit partner and the CEO we just hired what I thought of him as a person, warned multiple people about the dangers of being in business with him, and we haven't talked since.

This morning, he was arrested by the FBI for what will end up being some very serious financial/fraud charges. The guy has a $6 million main residence, had high-end luxury vehicles, got his start with scam real estate deals, and have been defrauding investors for years all while spewing trumpisms on social media. He has seven children all under the age of 16 who are now going to lose their lifestyle and their father for a number of years (the wife left him months ago with the children).

Another piece-of-shit deplorable goes down.
You were business partners with him? Might want to get a lawyer and not anser the door if you hear a knock.

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

False.

Pre-Covid


"Last year, 264,000 new manufacturing jobs were added, representing the highest number of new workers since 1988. As a percent of the total workforce, manufacturing rose for the first time since 1984."
This article only accounts for his first two years in office.

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

So you want to blame Obama for the 2008 housing crash but you don't want to hold Trump accountable for Covid? The crash was the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. If that's how you see it, no reason to debate it.

This can be directly traced to Clinton and Barney Frank's lending policies. The liberal NY Times at the timee predicted what would happen which ultimately did happen.

At the end of 2016, we had 12.3M manufacturing jobs. At the end of Feb. 2020, before any notion of Covid, we have 12.8M jobs. The gain was 400K. I have openly given Trump credit for that.

By the end of 2020, those numbers had dropped to 12.2M jobs, or a net loss of 161K jobs. At one point in 2020, we were as low as 11.4M jobs.

When Obama left office, there were 12.5 million jobs. He didn't say F it in January and give up on the next 11 months.


2008 - 15.1MM
2016 - 14.8MM net loss 300k

2019 pre-Covid - 15.1 net gain 300k

2023 14.9MM - net loss from pre-Covid amounts 200k

Manufacturing jobs recovered during Obama's and Biden's terms from financial downturns. Did Trump merely continue the recovery or did he spur actual job growth with his perceived manufacturing friendly policies?
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CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

The border bill was horrible legislation. If normalized letting in millions of otherwise illegal immigrants every year. I suggest you read it if you haven’t. If you have let me know why you think it was a good idea to pass it.

The “killed it to run on it” narrative is simply political. They never talk about the border bills put forth by republicans that the dems killed.
Yes why has Schumer not taken up HR 2?

CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

Fair enough.

Trump did not see any gains in manufacturing jobs under his administration.

False.

Pre-Covid


"Last year, 264,000 new manufacturing jobs were added, representing the highest number of new workers since 1988. As a percent of the total workforce, manufacturing rose for the first time since 1984."
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CNN fact-checker says Tampon Tim's claim on Trump economy 'not true,' says manufacturing jobs rose under him

Clearly I can’t help you. You are in attack mode and can’t flip the switch

Man if you consider that an attack you belong on another board. I've been more than accommodative and asked questions and pointed out your comments that make no sense. If you cant handle it, maybe you dont belong here. We see why you only sporadically visit. You dont offer much.
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Venture Capital

Any of you deplorables who work in banking well versed in VC?

Background: Partner and I own the majority of a company. We have two other partners who, combined, own 15% currently. They are brothers and very successful in their other endeavors. A year ago, we brought them on board as investors/partners. We didn't need the money, but one of them owns five auto dealerships and the other is well connected, so we knew by allowing them to invest/become partners, we'd quickly grow our company based on the auto dealerships jumping on board.

In return for their investment (and more for their dealerships becoming big clients), we gave each of them 7.5%. However, if we were to ever hit $XM in revenue, they'd each get 30%, thus us losing our control. We regret that a bit, but we never thought we'd have as much success as fast as we did or think it would grow this much. Our market has grown to include big credit unions/banks/finance firms, and the growth possibility is now much bigger with those lenders jumping on board.

The brothers are pushing for us to do a series A with venture capitalists. Their concern is 1) a huge company will dump a hundred million into a company, copycat our program, and spread quickly across the country beating us to the market. 2) they want to grow as fast as possible and think our revenue can grow to $100M-$150M, at which point, they will want to sell. We'd want to sell far sooner than that. So they think getting a VC to jump on board for even a few million is worthwhile. I don't think it is needed, but I'm a lot more conservative business-wise than they are.

Their argument is that due to our operating agreement, VCs will be turned off due to the uncertainty of who has how many shares. I think we are three years away from hitting the threshold to where their equity jumps up to 30% each. Their offer is to cut their shares to 25% each (meaning they have 50% and we have 50%) if we agree to do a series A. By doing that, they argue that a VC wouldn't have to worry about any change in shares once we hit the revenue threshold. The operating agreement wouldn't be confusing to them, and they'd know exactly how much they'd get regardless of reaching a certain revenue.

I think they just want control (or at least take away our control) immediately instead of waiting a few years to see if we reach that threshold. Does their argument make sense? Would an operating agreement like that turn us off to VCs? A friend in Park City works for a VC, and she is meeting with me along with her CEO - all bright, Ivy grads whom I trust, but they are in real estate investing, so they may think a bit differently.
One of the two brothers in the above story . . . I referenced him in the two posts below where I called him a piece of shit, etc.

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In early 2021, I had words with him after he continued posting antagonistic and bogus bullshit on his Instagram. He's a die-hard trumper. We had just hired his friend (unbeknownst to me and greatly downplayed to my other partner) to be our CEO, who tried intervening in our dispute. I told both my piece-of-shit partner and the CEO we just hired what I thought of him as a person, warned multiple people about the dangers of being in business with him, and we haven't talked since.

This morning, he was arrested by the FBI for what will end up being some very serious financial/fraud charges. The guy has a $6 million main residence, had high-end luxury vehicles, got his start with scam real estate deals, and have been defrauding investors for years all while spewing trumpisms on social media. He has seven children all under the age of 16 who are now going to lose their lifestyle and their father for a number of years (the wife left him months ago with the children).

Another piece-of-shit deplorable goes down.
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