I'm really tired of losing ridiculous games we shouldn't lose. And not just this year, but in DDs career. He definitely has some big victories, ones that some coaches wouldn't get. But its amazing how BAD some of his losses are. Good Lord
A Wasted Basketball Season
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Southern Miss already has an NIT bid locked up as regular season champions... I would venture there is about a 0% chance the NIT is going to take two teams from the SBC.
And depending on who wins tonight, there is a chance ULL would also be ahead of us in the pecking order (if South Alabama wins and makes the NCAA).
We will either pay the $27,500 to play in the CBI, or turn in uniforms next Monday.
You're going to tout winning the CIT? Beating up on teams like IUPI, Presbyterian, Hampton, and Green Bay. Wow what an accomplishment.
Yes we faceplanted. The season after going to the NCAA Tournament Round of 32 we finish 6th and win only one conference tournament game. Still having Elmore, Burks, West, Williams, and other players from the previous season.
We can use transitive properties to make Marshall football almost as good as Alabama too. Fact is we played a bunch of nobodies. It's a pathetic resume that doesn't have us in any at-large conversations. However the Dandy Dan cultists like yourself will make every excuse for him like he's some hero that is doing Marshall some huge favor with his hands tied behind his back. Forgetting he stood there on the sideline with his arms crossed as the team completely cam unglued in the final minutes not knowing the situation and choking away a regular season title and an auto-bid to the NIT and then again stood there doing almost nothing as we allowed our lead to completely get taken from us letting a lesser team dictate the end of the game.
If Dan were not Dan he would have been fired well before this season. Except you olds want to hang on to your guy so much you'd sacrifice the program to do it.
Turn in the uniforms....if we wanted to play in post season we had ample opportunity to do so!
The fact that you think the SBC is as good as the MAC in football is asinine. That would be about as dumb as saying the MAC is as good the the SBC in football. Akron is the 4th or 5th best team in the MAC and would be the hands down best team in the SBC.
You couldn't be more wrong... And unlike most uninformed folks, I have the numbers to back me up.
Conference RPI (as of 3/6/23)
14. SUN BELT
19. MAC
That's out of 32 leagues. (CUSA is 9th, for those who are curious)
But don't let facts get in the way of your nonsense argument for MAC greatness.
Jon was a great player for the HERD.....But, I will bet you our all-time leading scorer, Mr. KINSEY will be making Big BUCK$ in the NBA next season.....which Elmore never achieved.
I beg to differ whf2....Kinsey should have passed LESS and taken more shots! His reasoning was he chose to get OTHER PLAYERS in the mix.
TOTAL TEAM PLAYER beside his (Kinsey) picture in the Dictionary!
I like Kinsey, but he won't be playing in the NBA next year... No NBA team in this day and age is going to spend a draft pick on a 23 year old who played five years of college ball.
The most likely path is Kinsey ends up playing against Elmore in the G-League next season as an undrafted signee.
Geenie.....they are performing better....record to date is (4-5).....got swept by St Johns [Big East] in Charleston, WV this weekend. They opened with 3-wins over St. Louis in Hoover, AL....lost 2of 3 @ Charleston Southern.
They host Radford (03/07)....and have a 3-game set with Canisius this weekend [March 9-11]..
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Well…
We won the county in 5th grade, so at least 10 wins there. I also played some church league bball. I also dominated the NBA2K franchise. Aside from the playing part… I’ve also met the professor from AND1, and watched the globetrotters a few time.
Id say I’m just about as qualified as everyone else on this board to coach the Herd the way we do.
GREAT REPLY, FreddyReef....You make a lot of Cent$......much more than several dummies on this social medial board.
Carry on--my man!
If Elmore didn't have a chance at the scoring title, that CIT was never happening for us.
It literally is the only reason MU participated, and it was a great narrative, but really, that was it.
That teams fate was decided when Peneva left.
Lowly Eastern Michigan beat Michigan on the road. upset or not the big ten is hightly overrated . Look at their teams road records. You know the big schools get higher rankings and a lot of it because they wont play lower level schools on the road. What major team wants to play the MAC on the road?. I am not a MAC fan but the truth is they are not a garbage conference.
So you say Toledo is not a good team? Then you do not know basketball. Your rankings are just your opinion.
I would rather play MAC teams than Sun Belt teams. At least I can find the MAC teams locations on a map.
That's the thing... None of the rankings I post every week are my opinion -- Those numbers are FACTS.
Your stance that the MAC is good (its not) is your opinion and its clearly not based in reality.
Conference RPI (as of 3/6)
14. SUN BELT
19. MAC
That isn't my opinion. That's where those two leagues rank out of the 32 leagues (CUSA is 9th).
The MAC blows, and the winner of the MAC is no better than Southern Miss, Marshall or James Madison... According to the NET, RPI and every other legitimate ranking system those are either Quad 2 or Quad 3 teams, meaning they are not "good" by the NCAA's standards.
Take the Kelly green glasses off.
Coach is 75 years old. With all the years of experience everyone touts, the guy watched the clock tick down to 7 seconds with the confidence we would either make a half court shot or a double teamed three point shot to tie. All while forgetting the other team can just foul us, send us to the line and win the game.
The other coaches must have been shitting their pants as the clock ticked down. Giddy. Wondering if it was real life.
I'll be on the team of spare me of his past great moments. Only thing I recall is a tourney win some 5 years ago... & A very lucky championship.. Coach can't think cognitively anymore. Hire a young up and coming talent and pay him the 200k. I've seen enough.
The other coaches must have been shitting their pants as the clock ticked down. Giddy. Wondering if it was real life.
I'll be on the team of spare me of his past great moments. Only thing I recall is a tourney win some 5 years ago... & A very lucky championship.. Coach can't think cognitively anymore. Hire a young up and coming talent and pay him the 200k. I've seen enough.
Those national rankings are opinion only too . They are facts only in their minds and the believers of them like you.
Lol... I can't argue with someone who doesn't understand how NET rankings, Ken Pom, RPI, etc work. Math is hard, and at this point, you aren't going to figure it out. It's not subjective.
The SBC is solidly mediocre at 14 out of 32 leagues... The MAC isn't even mediocre at 19 of 32.
The only place the MAC is "good," is your fantasy land.
When did this happen? Michigan played E. Michigan this season and Michigan won 88-83
Yeah, and they suck. Stop trying to think.
The fact you said My couldn't get a better coach than DD should disqualify you from posting on this thread.
You said, given MU being a mid major, they'd not get any coach who could top Dan's coaching?
You do realize every year, a mid major is actually pretty good, isn't the #1 team in America, from a mid major conference?
Look and see how many mid majors are in the top 25 and how many are getting votes.
To say DD is the best we can get, is token. Goddamn Sam is right. That means we expect to make the NCAA tournament about once a decade, in a lesser conference than we were in before...which also stagnates the program and leaves them as an afterthought.
Look at MU in football this year...you hire the right coach, you can beat the best.
Who does MU hire? Someone from a lower level, like D2, but has won championships and is a proven winner.
As I have said, someone motivated to be smarter than everyone else...because you need that more than anything as a mid major...and DD has proven, twice in a row, he isn't smart, at all.
You're right about RPI... unfortunately they include the bottom of the conferences as well. The top 4 teams in the MAC are better than any team in the SBC. You can whine about that all you want, but its true.
Again... This isn't that hard to figure out.
Average NET ranking of the top 4 teams ---
SBC -- 88.25
MAC -- 98.25
Don't like the NET rankings because you don't understand them? -- OK, here's average RPI of top 4 --
SBC -- 67.25
MAC -- 90.5
The MAC, is in no way, better than the SBC... It's just not and some of you guys are delusional.
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I don't buy that at all. You're telling me that Peneva was so good he's the difference in 6 spots? We went from defending champ to 6th place all the while still having two of the top five scorers in program history on that roster. I'm not saying we should have won it all again, but we darn sure shouldn't have been as down as we were.
Sorry Dan did not use that appearance to spring board the program. He did the same thing Doc did after 2014. He started to coast and it showed.
Dude, no. Please stop. What @RhinoD is doing to you is uncomfortable to watch.
I can tell you this much if Houston had been in the MAC they would not be number 1. Playing on the road at those top MAC teams is a real task.
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