Yeah, really just demoralized me so much that I’ve changed my mind about voting blue this election and will now circle in the bubble for Trump.Well hopefully that's enough of that. I think you guys sliced up his comments pretty well.
At this point in the discussion it looks like herdfbl has nothing left in his playbook but to call you all racist and move on.
As an independent, I consciously try and remain objective.
Yeah, really just demoralized me so much that I’ve changed my mind about voting blue this election and will now circle in the bubble for Trump.
I fully acknowledge that Covid was a factor. I even credited Trump for his gains. It’s just that you missed that by not reading the entire thread. That’s why I didn’t respond to the bulk of your posts because we had already addressed your points.Well yeah, you didn't fool anyone about being "objective"... Heck, you can't even acknowledge the effect Covid-19 had on manufacturing output and related job losses...
And for what it’s worth, I am 100% an independent and have history of voting for both parties but just so we’re clear I will vote straight blue until the Republican Party regains some dignity and moves on from Trump. I’m not anti Republican but I’m damn sure anti Trump.Well yeah, you didn't fool anyone about being "objective"... Heck, you can't even acknowledge the effect Covid-19 had on manufacturing output and related job losses...
And for what it’s worth, I am 100% an independent and have history of voting for both parties but just so we’re clear I will vote straight blue until the Republican Party regains some dignity and moves on from Trump. I’m not anti Republican but I’m damn sure anti Trump.
I fully acknowledge that Covid was a factor. I even credited Trump for his gains. It’s just that you missed that by not reading the entire thread. That’s why I didn’t respond to the bulk of your posts because we had already addressed your points.
Of course Covid hurt manufacturing jobs, but so did the real estate collapse. So my contention is you can’t ignore the real estate collapse when calculating job losses and gains under Obama but then turn around and consider Covid under Trump.
Trump did have some nice job growth pre-Covid but manufacturing jobs had also already started to drop before March of 2020. Additionally, Obama made impressive gains from 2010-2016 and although 2024 isn’t as dramatic,
Biden has demonstrated decent manufacturing job growth to date. One argument was that Biden’s grown related only to Covid but that isn’t necessarily true because manufacturing jobs under Biden have exceeded the highest point pre-Covid under Trump.
And for what it’s worth, I am 100% an independent and have history of voting for both parties but just so we’re clear I will vote straight blue until the Republican Party regains some dignity and moves on from Trump. I’m not anti Republican but I’m damn sure anti Trump.
You're a White Guy For Harris and just outed yourself 🤣And for what it’s worth, I am 100% an independent and have history of voting for both parties but just so we’re clear I will vote straight blue until the Republican Party regains some dignity and moves on from Trump. I’m not anti Republican but I’m damn sure anti Trump.