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Sick freaks, weirdos, and liberals are turning this country into that right there. Men who want to be women and women who want to be men.

Damn people are confused.
 
I thought he said he was a republican in his interview........

There are plenty of weirdo Republicans. Log Cabin Republicans who are gay and Lindsey Graham is a gay man running for President. There are also plenty of liberal Republicans.
 
Well, now the ESPY awards are honoring him with the 'Courage Award'. I think of all the great people in the past that have been given this award, and now they're passing it out to a Fruit, complete with the Kardashian whores up on stage with him. I won't watch it. Unfortunately, it's BIG news across the ESPN ticker. Olympian star turns FRUIT. If it weren't for college football and Sunday night baseball, I wouldn't watch ESPN. Right now, they got me by the nuts, but I yearn for the day when I can stop watching. Hopefully, I'll go senile soon, and won't give a shit about anything.
 
Courage for what? Being a fruit loop and attention whore? This is what is wrong with this country. The 19 year old service member who got his legs blown off in Iraq is a hero. Your dad who works 80 hours a week to pay for your schooling, food, and roof over your head is a hero.

This guy is no hero. Screw ESPN and their jock sniffing liberal agenda. The guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd. Strange selection of heroes.
 
The 19 year old service member who got his legs blown off in Iraq is a hero.

This is what makes me laugh. People like herdman and michigan try to flaunt that they tell it like it is and make it a point not to worry about offending people. Yet, they tout these 19 year old soldiers as heroes.

How about telling it like it is? For the overwhelming majority of those 19 year old soldiers, they didn't give a shit about defending America. They signed up for service only because it was their best route in life to secure a free education and/or a decent wage down the line. If any of them had a scholarship to play football at Alabama, military service would never have crossed their mind. Their only reason for signing up was for solely selfish concerns, none of which had to do with defending freedom.

Herdman, tell us why you signed up. We already know the answer.

Now, not all service members are like that. Some truly are heroes who go to defend America. But, the overwhelming number of 19 year olds in the military? They are exactly what I said they are.

Try telling it like it is, cowards.

And a person coming out like Jenner did takes courage. You can say they are immoral in our eyes. You can say they have a mental issue in your eyes. You can call them "disgusting." Coming out when so many people share the same views as you do takes a hell of a lot of courage and makes them heroes to the other people who have been in fear their entire lives for being who they think they are.
 
If you want the real reason, I actually signed up so I could try to go to the Gulf WarI(it ended before I was done with my training) and to be part of something bigger than myself. My college was already taken care of. I signed up after being in college two years. Didn't have to. I learned more doing that than I ever did at Marshall getting a degree.

No matter what the reason, that 19 kid showed some real balls Signed a blank check for his life with Uncle Sugar and did what they had to do.

Go hug a fruit cake. If Jenner want to be a girl he could have just been a girl and went into hiding somewhere. Go worship these made for tv drama queen shows. I am not.
 
No matter what the reason, that 19 kid showed some real balls Signed a blank check for his life with Uncle Sugar and did what they had to do.
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Oh, bullshit. A person isn't a hero for making a decision completely on what is best solely for him as an individual. The vast majority of those 19 year olds have no reason to be there other than that it allows them a free education or a decent paycheck down the line. Very few signed up for any noble cause outside of their own individual gains.

That isn't heroic. It is exactly like the kids who were able to immediately go to college.

Stop being a coward and call it like it is since you claim to always do that.
 
What's wrong? Afraid to "call it like it is" when it doesn't go against your political stance? Don't be hypocritical. We all know that is an accurate description of the overwhelming number of enlistees directly from high school.
 
The conservative claim that most youth enlist due to patriotism and the desire to "serve one's country" is misleading. The Pentagon's own surveys show that something vague and abstract called "duty to country" motivates only a portion of enlistees.

The vast majority of young people wind up in the military for different reasons, ranging from economic pressure to the desire to escape a dead-end situation at home to the promise of citizenship.

Over all, disenfranchisement may be one of the most accurate words for why some youth enlist.
 
Rifle I don't disagree with your premise that many do it for college money. I know that. But there are other ways to get college money. Everyone has different reasons.

Some people have the balls to do it. Then they go through with it and some give up body parts and some everything.

Equating a messed up individual with a veteran is insane.

Why you were buying you hair gel and playing a game in college there are others who did far more than your prima Donna spoiled ass.
 
People went into the military to stay out of the poor house. It's not the complete sacrifice sap story we get sold on TV, but working any job is a sacrifice nonetheless and is a more productive story to tell than this heshe garbage.

Only reason this guy is going on TV with all this is he wants money out of it. Most people his age just go off and feed the pigeons somewhere while they buy their cemetery lot.
 
I don't find anything Jenner is doing as courageous. He's not some confused guy in Smalltown, Iowa who has decided to make this lifestyle change & that will likely make his life 100 times more difficult. He's a guy on a terrible reality show that was encouraged every step of the way to make this change, lives in an area where he'll be freely accepted, will benefit financially from the attention, is now on the cover of Vanity Fair & will be receiving an Award from ESPN. Where does he find the strength?
 
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Rifle I don't disagree with your premise that many do it for college money. I know that. But there are other ways to get college money. Everyone has different reasons..

And the overwhelming number of high schoolers who enter the service do so for individual reasons, not for any desire to risk their lives to defend freedom.

That isn't heroic. It is self-serving just like any other kid who chooses to go to work or directly to college.
 
Why you were buying you hair gel and playing a game in college there are others who did far more than your prima Donna spoiled ass.

While I was mastering sixth grade math books as a first grader that my mom would bring home for me, those "heroes" were playing with action figures.

While I was playing basketball night after night, week after week, month after month, and year after year, mostly against people much older than me which resulted in scars all over my face, those "heroes" were out fvcking around with girls.

While I was hitting a baseball off of a tee into a fence so much that the little league had an attorney send me a letter threatening a lawsuit, those kids were out partying.

While I was running around the block at night, stopping to do push-ups to exhaustion when I got tired, then getting back up to continue running, those kids were hanging out and fishing with their friends.

I worked far harder to earn a better path to my future than they did. They had far fewer options to choose from as a result, and they selected the one which was the best for their self-interests, not because they had some charitable, heroic desire to help the country.

Quit being a coward and admit that the overwhelming number of enlistees out of high school don't do it for any reason other than it being the best option for their own personal future.

"Call it like it is."

And this is coming from somebody who has bought lunch at an airport for a group of servicemen not much younger than me at the time, somebody who thanks them for serving when I see them, and respects and is thankful for what they do. But, come on. Give up the bullshit you are trying to present.
 
The title of the thread says it all.

Why in the hell would anybody defend this? Political correctness to stay up in the high brow people, that's why. To hell with that. It's disgusting garbage. I don't want to see it when I'm watching the news and neither does anybody else.

They just lie and say it's courageous to stay trendy and hip.
 
While I was mastering sixth grade math books as a first grader that my mom would bring home for me, those "heroes" were playing with action figures.

While I was playing basketball night after night, week after week, month after month, and year after year, mostly against people much older than me which resulted in scars all over my face, those "heroes" were out fvcking around with girls.

While I was hitting a baseball off of a tee into a fence so much that the little league had an attorney send me a letter threatening a lawsuit, those kids were out partying.

While I was running around the block at night, stopping to do push-ups to exhaustion when I got tired, then getting back up to continue running, those kids were hanging out and fishing with their friends.

I worked far harder to earn a better path to my future than they did.

Wtf??? This is one of the funniest (and saddest) things I've ever read on pullman.
 
While I was hitting a baseball off of a tee into a fence so much that the little league had an attorney send me a letter threatening a lawsuit, those kids were out partying.

Just how old were you when you were playing tee-ball? 16, 17 years old? Even back in the holler, we didn't start partying until we were 13, maybe 12 at best.
 
Rifle the motive for love of country and duty has to be in there somewhere. A Pell grant is a hell of a lot easier and safer.
 
If you are so damn smart and good at baseball why in the he'll did you go to marshall like us poor white trash folks from wv?

Shouldn't have been at Stanford?
 
Rifle the motive for love of country and duty has to be in there somewhere. A Pell grant is a hell of a lot easier and safer.

You're living in a fantasy world. You even know that you are full of shit.

A max pull grant for the most needy of kids is $2800/semester . . . about $5700 for a full year, maximum. That's not covering shit. And not all enlistees would qualify for the maximum.

Go ask any kid about to sign up why he is doing it. "Love of country and duty" will be mentioned about as much as "I played with GI Joe growing up." You know that, so stop bullshitting.

I know dozens of kids who ended up enlisting. The overwhelming majority were average to below average students, most of whom did not participate in extracurricular activities, and didn't come from great wealth. Many of them had no burning love of country and duty all through high school. It didn't just miraculously sprout when they were faced with very limited options. Many enlistees don't even want to attend college.

Are there exceptions? Of course. But, the overwhelming majority of enlistees do it because it's the best scenario for them, in a self-serving way, instead of for any sense of duty or love of country.

Your entire character of trying to be a straight-shooter is going down the drain in this thread.
 
If you are so damn smart and good at baseball why in the he'll did you go to marshall like us poor white trash folks from wv?

Shouldn't have been at Stanford?

What does my intelligence or baseball ability have to do with this? My examples clearly went over your head.

You claimed that while I was out being a prima donna and just playing a meaningless child's game, these supposed heroes were accomplishing a lot more. My examples were to show you that I didn't just luck into any of that. While those supposed heroes were out doing nothing their entire childhood, I was working towards a better route than what they were forced to face by having to enlist.

Look at the kids you know who enlisted. Truly, how many did it due to a sense of duty or love of country? The dozens I know, with the exception of very few, were the borderline fringe kids growing up. They weren't total bums and wastes, but they definitely didn't care to achieve anything growing up. Again, there are always exceptions, but the overwhelming number fit my characteristics of them.
 
If you are so damn smart and good at baseball why in the he'll did you go to marshall like us poor white trash folks from wv?

Wasn't good enough or smart enough. There is no way in hell a New Yorker picks to come to Hee Haw for college. It was either that or selling Kirbys.

Have to hand it to him for being able to enamor a lot of hick rubes the way he has, but some of us stubborn old bastards out of the deep grumpy hollers will never buy the bull.
 
I don't think there's any question that a large portion of the roughly 180,000 annual enlistees are doing so due to the opportunity to do something with their lives. They may not be heroes and warriors prior to enlisting, but the branches of our military turn them into men, men who have a sense of duty to country, and most ultimately turn into heroes when the opportunity presents itself.
 
They call it courageous because they think it's a big deal putting up with us thinking it's weird.

We're important for some reason. Probably because there are still a hell of a lot of us left. Maybe even because those who act like they're not us really are when they're not acting.
 
You're living in a fantasy world. You even know that you are full of shit.

A max pull grant for the most needy of kids is $2800/semester . . . about $5700 for a full year, maximum. That's not covering shit. And not all enlistees would qualify for the maximum.

Go ask any kid about to sign up why he is doing it. "Love of country and duty" will be mentioned about as much as "I played with GI Joe growing up." You know that, so stop bullshitting.

I know dozens of kids who ended up enlisting. The overwhelming majority were average to below average students, most of whom did not participate in extracurricular activities, and didn't come from great wealth. Many of them had no burning love of country and duty all through high school. It didn't just miraculously sprout when they were faced with very limited options. Many enlistees don't even want to attend college.

Are there exceptions? Of course. But, the overwhelming majority of enlistees do it because it's the best scenario for them, in a self-serving way, instead of for any sense of duty or love of country.

Your entire character of trying to be a straight-shooter is going down the drain in this thread.

You stubborn idiot. I agree with you on that premise. I went through basic training and served with guys with college degrees, guys who were there because a judge say that or jail, inner city kids who were rough as sandpaper, country bumpkins, guys who could barely read, guys who lived on the streets, black, white, yellow, red, jocks, geeks, nerds, momma's boys,college athletes, you name it they were there.

Everybody has their own motive for being there. But, I will say this. I bet by the time week 17 rolled around at the beginning not too many of them didn't have a strong love of country. Probably none of them.

Were some there for college money? Yehh. Some were there for three hots and cot? Yehhhh. Some for a job, yehhh. Some for whatever reason? yehhhh

The enlisted ranks are not full of choir boys. I agree with you.

But, for whatever reason it takes courage to do it and make it through it.

I guarantee the moment I graduated from OSUT training meant as much if not more that my college degree. I don't care why those folks got there. They raised their hand and gave an oath. And, if you don't think it takes guts to go to war and you can equate that with a drama queen reality show then you need help.
 
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Oh and rifle why don't you talk to Noah Galloway, referenced above, and impress him with your hitting baseball stories and how smart you are. And tell him that he joined for selfish reason and he was probably and underachiever. I am sure he will be impressed.
 
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