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Exactly my point. Anyone would take a free ticket out of the combat zone. They aren't there to help defend America by their choice. They were originally there for the reasons you said you were, and they stayed there and followed orders instead of going to jail.

If they were there for a sense of duty and country, as herdman claimed, they wouldn't gladly take a free ticket out of that combat zone.

True. I guess my question is, do you think it takes more courage to do what Bruce did or what these injured combat veterans had to do?
 
But if you want to bring up pitching & catching jokes, maybe your daughter likes catching in the same place Michael Sam likes catching? Would that make her any different? Or do you not think about what women do in the bed room? Only men?

My hypothetical daughter is as pure as the wind driven snow.

And, watch your mouth. The last guy that talked that way about my hypothetical daughter ended up with a knuckle sandwich. That was rifle.
 
Exactly my point. Anyone would take a free ticket out of the combat zone. They aren't there to help defend America by their choice. They were originally there for the reasons you said you were, and they stayed there and followed orders instead of going to jail.

If they were there for a sense of duty and country, as herdman claimed, they wouldn't gladly take a free ticket out of that combat zone.


You are grasping at straws now.
 
You are grasping at straws now.

it is nowhere close to grasping at straws, which is why the other person conceded that part of the argument.


True. I guess my question is, do you think it takes more courage to do what Bruce did or what these injured combat veterans had to do?

those in combat only have a couple of options at that point: follow orders and take the risk of injury/death; dont follow orders and hide/run, in turn, risking jail time or injury/death. really, they dont have much of a choice in the matter at that point if they want to show courage or not. their options are extremely limited.

im not sure courage is the word to use. mental toughness seems to be a more accurate term. if you dont have a choice on doing something or not, i dont consider doing it "courageous." you really dont have another option. if i am on top of a skyscraper and a guy has a gun to my head telling me to jump or he will blow my brains out, it wouldnt be courageous for me to take the huge risk of trying to fight the gun away before he can pull the trigger. i dont really have any other option if i want to survive. not whimpering like a kid and just giving in without a fight would take some mental toughness, just like those in combat have to do. but, courage? it's not courageous if you dont have a choice.
 
Would you stand in front of the 82nd airborne division and say that?
 
Watching someone else live their life on TV is incredibly boring to me. I would rather live one myself by finding something else to do.....I make the effort to find new things that interest me in work or play. I don't usually waste time asking someone else to tell me what I may be missing in life.

This is the best thing I've read on here in a while. I am struggling to find interest in much of anything though. After spending several years depriving myself of pretty much everything I ever liked, I have come to take a sort of sick pride in not needing anything.

Always figured I'd be fired and sent back to the hills to live on a pittance. Now that it may not happen, I'm not sure how to handle it. I think they're counting on me. I don't want to let them down, but other than that I'm not much interested in anything. Even sports seem like a dumb waste of time now, but I still follow them out of routine.

Scared out of ever wanting anything. I'd probably lose it if I ever bought anything worth having. As long as I stick to garbage, nothing much is on the line and I can hold onto sanity and be able to keep working.
 
That Xenu shit hasn't been proven to be real, yet you still have handed over tens of thousands of dollars to the cult.

I suppose that would be relevant IF someone in this thread was claiming people were born with genetics that determined their religion.
 
Steamed clam....it's what's for dinner.

Anyway, I don't need a genetic study to know someone would not choose ridicule, discrimination, disownment from family, and public shame just to stick their dick in a smelly man's butthole. Genetic or environmental influences in the womb, either way no man decides one day they suddenly want dick.
 
Extra, prove to me that the water molecules you drank today were made up of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom.
 
It is unproven that gays are born gays. Your opinions and irrelevant comments do not change that fact.
 
So if the argument is that a child is conditioned to be gay, more nature than nurture, it proves that the child had a choice? And chose to be gay? Chose to have wants & desires that the majority do not want nor desire.
 
So if the argument is that a child is conditioned to be gay, more nature than nurture, it proves that the child had a choice? And chose to be gay? Chose to have wants & desires that the majority do not want nor desire.

Are you disputing my statement of 'it has not been proven that gays are born gay'?
 
Are you disputing my statement of 'it has not been proven that gays are born gay'?
I'm not sure if I said in this thread that they were born gay. I believe some are, but would easily be swayed by science if sconce disproved my belief.


If it is all nurture instead of nature, do you believe they had a choice?
 
I'm not sure if I said in this thread that they were born gay. I believe some are, but would easily be swayed by science if sconce disproved my belief.


If it is all nurture instead of nature, do you believe they had a choice?

"Nobody gets to choose how their child is born."
___shammond16
 
But if it were proven then it wouldn't change your mind about anything, so it's entirely irrelevant.
 
Based on Greed's assertions on this topic, makes the lack of facts proving "God's existence" that much more valid.
 
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