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I don't know if being gay is determined at birth or happens after puberty. I do think it becomes a natural and real desire, not just choice.

I hated the taste of beer when I was a teenager and wouldn't have touched salt 'n vinegar chips, but nowadays, I can't get enough of the two.

I don't believe anything environmental could have persuaded me to like the taste of both. I guess a kid could grow older and figure he likes the taste of trouser snake and brown eye in a similar manner?
 
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Because: Your opinions and irrelevant comments do not change that fact.

The fact is that you accept something scientists tell you that doesn't conflict with your comfortable, entrenched belief system. But, when science states things that do conflict with those long held beliefs, you dismiss them.

It is accepted in the science world that a large share of male gays have a unique difference regarding a part of the X chromosome. The difference is exponentially higher in gays than those who identify with being straight. It is not a nurture indication, but rather, definitive proof that nature plays a major part in homosexuality.
 
You guys can whine, moan, bellow, and weep. But here's the fact:

It has not been proven that gays are born gay.
 
It's interesting that you're so committed to a worldview where you could go out tomorrow and start liking cock.
 
Let me get this straight...we have someone arguing that there is no proof that a person is born gay even though homosexuality has existed from the beginning of recorded history, through out every race, and within every imaginable economic, social, and family environment, yet that same person has a belief system that is centered around no physical observation, no scientific proof, and 100% faith?

Again...come on man. Where's the evidence for this being some kind of learned behavior or a choice?
 
One of my oldest daughter's best friend is gay. Our family has known his family since he was preteen. I made the comment that this kid was gay when he was in grade school. My wife and kids would get on me and say, no he wasn't. Well fast forward 15-20 years. He's out of the closet. You could tell it before this kid even reached the age where sexuality becomes a dominant part of his makeup. Have they found a genetic link to it yet? No...but no evidence exists that this is a choice or learned behavior. If it were a choice or learned behavior, the psychological underpinnings of the behavior would have become evident through observation.
 
Let me get this straight...we have someone arguing that there is no proof that a person is born gay even though homosexuality has existed from the beginning of recorded history, through out every race, and within every imaginable economic, social, and family environment

And so it is with murder, rape, theft, etc.

If murder, rape. and theft were a choice or learned behavior, the psychological underpinnings of the behavior would have become evident through observation.

It has not been proven that gays are born gay.
 
Even the PC embracers of this gayness still talk about it like it's some kind of oddity. They see it as peculiar and weird.

The object of this game is for the PC'ers to pretend that they feel sorry for the people so they can look down on people who tell it like it is. This is the basis of our economy and society now. Tell a bunch of lies, dupe everybody and see how long it takes until you start actually believing the bull yourself.
 
Yep, hell I don't even know what to believe anymore. How do you all do this? Maybe you all were city folks from the start. I wasn't.

It's a nice convenient easy life I guess, but something's missing. This ain't me. When I was 16, if someone said this was my future I would have punched them in the face and quit school.
 
Yep, hell I don't even know what to believe anymore. How do you all do this? Maybe you all were city folks from the start. I wasn't.

It's a nice convenient easy life I guess, but something's missing. This ain't me. When I was 16, if someone said this was my future I would have punched them in the face and quit school.


Keep rambling. I'm not sure anyone knows wtf you are talking about half the time anyway. I'm am starting to actually believe you are simply another Sisters that happened to learn how to spell.
 
Why are you always so mad? You know for people who supposedly have it all and like to tell me how much I suck, you all seem pretty miserable and angry.

What's the deal?
 
I agree, Walden. This is the same guy that scolded me for watching TV, due to him having so many great things to do with his life. If this is what living a great life is all about, then I'm not interested. I'll take watching The Factor talking points over a walk in the park any day of the week if this is what it does to you.
 
And so it is with murder, rape, theft, etc.

If murder, rape. and theft were a choice or learned behavior, the psychological underpinnings of the behavior would have become evident through observation.

It has not been proven that gays are born gay.

Keep rambling. I'm not sure anyone knows wtf you are talking about half the time anyway. I'm am starting to actually believe you are simply another Sisters that happened to learn how to spell.
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I don't know about anyone else, but I understand Walden perfectly. I don't always agree but I always get where he's coming from.
 
He doesn't actually have a point, he's just posting the same thing over and over because his Xenu-translator or whatever is broken.
 
If this is what living a great life is all about, then I'm not interested.

I'm interested in the opportunity to thrive and succeed, but I'm not really into fish eggs, playing chess or buying a big SUV for some hoggish woman to keep her happy.

I'll figure it out eventually, or maybe I won't. Still, it's a hell of a problem to have to win games and just not know how to celebrate it.
 
I'll figure it out eventually, or maybe I won't.

I'm not sure it's worth it. I always figured while I was outside walking around the block holding hands, the woman was probably thinking of ways to spend my life insurance if I happened to croak during the stroll. I would have missed Waters World interviewing the Amish about Caitlyn last night, had I decided to venture into Raleigh's lifestyle for an hour or so.
 
So what if they were born gay. We all can't be winners and have the same things. I was born white and slow by NFL standards. I don't have a 36" vertical leap and can't bench press a house. You have to try out for Little League or high school ball. I could not get in Duke or Stanford. So if gays were born gay then well tough shi*. Either learn to like the opposite sex or live with your birth limitations.

Frankly some are probably born gay. Some would stick their wanker in anything that moved and can't control themselves. Some of them played with Barbie Dolls. Some were raised as sissies and some are natural fruit loops. Some think it is hip and some probably have mental issues or something.

Not my problem. If you walk around flaunting your way of life then don't cry when people laugh or poke fun. You brought that shi* on yourself.

We all can't be Michael Jordan or Tom Brady. And, no I don't have to except your damn way of life.
 
had I decided to venture into Raleigh's lifestyle for an hour or so

What was it, golf and reading books? Most people my age are raising little kids.

I used to fish a lot, but there's nowhere to do that here. I think fishing is a giant waste of money anyway. Tens of thousands for a boat and something to pull it with when 9 months out of the year the weather sucks way too much to even use it. Not to mention the work required to tow it, store it, clean it, maintain it, etc.

Of course my main distraction is sports, but I feel kind of stupid for caring about other people playing a game. I don't think I was supposed to live that long. What else is there to do? It's all either boring, played out, too expensive or too much of a hassle.

Sitting on top of the hill back home with Buck Owens music blaring while us hicks sit around making fun of everybody else. That's what I want.
 
It has not been proven that gays are born gay.
True or false?

True.

The PC game is just like religion though. Nobody can really fully and truly believe it 100%, but they believe they must act like they do in order to gain societal acceptance or some foolish unattainable bliss.
 
I'm not buying any of that 'they were born that way' bullshit, not when it comes to learned behavior traits. I remember the old man hating the old hag that lived across the property line from us. He despised the old hag, and always made several comments about her. I learned to hate her just from watching the old man hate her for years. I doubt I was born to hate her. I just hated her because that's what I observed and figured it was the right thing to do. Now days, with all the queers on TV 24/7, I figure this country is in for a huge spike in future queerism.
 
My point is...it has not been proven that gays are born gay. Fact.

But you already stated that it wouldn't matter to you one way or the other, so it's a bit confusing why you keep repeating the same line that you don't even care about.
 
But you already stated that it wouldn't matter to you one way or the other, so it's a bit confusing why you keep repeating the same line that you don't even care about.

Because it was stated in this thread that gays were born that way. I said that is unproven. And here we are, with people unable to accept the fact that its unproven that gays are born gay.
 
. And here we are, with people unable to accept the fact that its unproven that gays are born gay.

You're unable to accept the fact that people are born with a chromosome that has a strong impact on them
being straight or gay.
 
You're unable to accept the fact that people are born with a chromosome that has a strong impact on them
being straight or gay.

You are seemingly unable to accept the FACT that its unproven that gays are born gay
 
So you've sat here arguing over a point you don't care about for multiple pages because?

Because the book of religious rules says no gayness allowed.

As for why I don't like it, just seems sickening as hell. When I was still living, I always wanted a woman and could see no way in hell why a man would want another man. Still can't see why. Can't understand why. Don't want to understand why.
 
I see that you're taking your usual cowardly way out.

I answered your question, so you should answer mine.

You are attempting to change the subject. I said before I'm not gonna let that happen.
You can continue to try.
It is unproven that gays are born gay.
 
Why are you always so mad? You know for people who supposedly have it all and like to tell me how much I suck, you all seem pretty miserable and angry.

What's the deal?

No one has to tell you how much you suck because you are on here everyday reminding us how much you suck. Someone points that out to you and you call them angry? That's not anger. Its irony.

Its actually refreshing when you are not telling us how bad life is in one form or another. Come to think of it though......I cant remember when that has actually occurred. So in the spirit of being positive so your feelings don't feel trampled on, please quit your damn whining. You are worse than most of the PC'rs you bitch about.
 
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