That's not a direct quote from Huff, though.
That's a source telling another source what "happened."
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That's a source telling another source what "happened."
We dont even know what the "interview" even consisted of and we have fans wanting apologies. Jesus F'ing Christ. We dont even know the quote "not the right time" is Huffs.
Face it. We have a black coach who tutored under a legendary coach. He is going to be in the rumor mill every year for every job.
Huff is not a viable candidate for bigger programs with a 7-5 record with a team in CUSA. Most likely scenario is in year 3 if his record improves.
agree, and so far he hasn't put up any better record than Doc. Maybe next year.......
This is laughable. Cut the shit man; you are a very sharp dude and one of the better posters on here. What the fvck do you think the interview was about? Huff just wanted ask to what pressure do they inflate their footballs?
Bullshit. Doc's first 3 years were losing seasons. Didn't start winning until CUSA got watered down.
Uhh, that doesn't help your argument. I couldn't stand Doc, but Huff is in the same watered down version of CUSA. Hell, it's debatable as to whether Huff's version at this point is even more diluted than Doc's.
Here is a Scenario based on RUMOR:
Duke calls: "Can you talk?"
Huff: "I'll listen" (who wouldn't listen)
After a brief conversation both realize there is no interest in moving forward.
Sounds like Duke already had their man lined up anyway. Like I said. Get ready for rumors every year.
Whats my argument? I'm giving Huff a couple years to change the complete culture of mediocrity.
This.
Remember that all of these guys have agents (David Letterman once said “an agent is something you scrape off the bottom of your shoe”). These agents all have relationships with these reporters and they salt the twitter-verse with these fact-free rumors to keep their guys’ names in play.
Reality?
7-5.
6-5 vs I-A.
0-4 vs teams with a winning record
Picked to win CUSA-East, failed to do so.
Favored in 4 games which we failed to win.
Failed to cover the spread in five games.
Underperformance.
To the extent that CH got any looks from anyone, even a program as dysfunctional and irrelevant as Duke, it is just some “Rooney Rule” type perfunctory deal. In reality, its just some agent telling some reporter bud some dis-information to make his 7-5 underperforming client look hot.
He isn’t.
Duke knew who they wanted for the job. That is widely reported.
Now think about this guys. They have to interview so many people or go through the motions. They are a large organization, most of you know the deal.
It could have been just a feeler or Huff checks a few boxes on that list when hiring someone at a large school. You can draw your own conclusions. But, damn he worked for the greatest coach of all time is one of those. Some of your way over playing this. If Duke or some school hires him that is their business but, from everything I have read around the Duke job, they knew exactly who they wanted and it was wrapped up pretty quickly.
Now think about this guys. They have to interview so many people or go through the motions. They are a large organization, most of you know the deal.
It could have been just a feeler or Huff checks a few boxes on that list when hiring someone at a large school. You can draw your own conclusions. But, damn he worked for the greatest coach of all time is one of those. Some of your way over playing this. If Duke or some school hires him that is their business but, from everything I have read around the Duke job, they knew exactly who they wanted and it was wrapped up pretty quickly.
This post right here explains the situation perfectly.
This is why herdman is the moderator of the people, and will be very successful as the official moderator of the Sun Belt Conference.
except his second year he won a bowl and had winning record but what you said does make a better point.
Who is this “Doc”?
This is a thread about whether or not Duke was stupid enough to actually consider a 7-5 underperforming coach after one year for a P5 job, even one a bad as Duke. The previous coach is not relevant at all, except for the fact that the team was picked to repeat as division champions this year, and its failure to do so is part of the underperformance. But a very small part. The season stands on its own, more or less. 7-5. 6-5 vs. I-A. 0-4 vs. teams with winning records. Etc.
Apparently Duke wasn’t that stupid. Kuddos to Duke.
This is a thread about whether or not Duke was stupid enough to actually consider a 7-5 underperforming coach after one year for a P5 job, even one a bad as Duke. The previous coach is not relevant at all, except for the fact that the team was picked to repeat as division champions this year, and its failure to do so is part of the underperformance. But a very small part. The season stands on its own, more or less. 7-5. 6-5 vs. I-A. 0-4 vs. teams with winning records. Etc.
Apparently Duke wasn’t that stupid. Kuddos to Duke.
I was referring to the previous seasons. A 7-5 season most years is what got Doc fired. For the record , Doc played #2 Ohio State and #23 WVU out of conference that year (2010). That was in addition to a much harder C-USA. Finally, he followed Mark (23-37) which had been fired for losing year after year. Huff took over a team that played in the conference championship and returned the majority of starters for what it is worth.
There you go, confusing the Doc-obsessed with facts and logic. In their delusional world, a 7-5 not Doc coach is a candidate for great P5 jobs like VPI, Duke and I even saw one post on Facebook about Virginia. And, of course, in their delusion, all of the failings of CH, are excused away to the supposed “dumpster fire” left behind by last year’s division championship winner. Of course, in the real world, we underperformed this year and no one associated with the team, certainly not its head coach deserved, or actually got, a sniff from anyone else; and a “dumpster fire” is what the new coaches at places like FIU, Akron, New Mexico State, got. Losing teams. Not returning division champions.
One has to wonder when CH will be judged on his own merits, without an amen chorus of Doc obsessed excuse makers.
Some of you guys need to calm down... Huff is going to be a "candidate" for jobs every year that we have a winning record.
He has had success as an assistant/recruiter at multiple P5 programs.
He has a winning record as a head coach (albeit 7-5 in one season).
He is very very marketable to fanbases. Says all the right things, good with the media, etc.
In a perfect world, this is why we would have a promising young coordinator, who knows how to recruit, waiting in the wings if our HC does bolt after a year or two.
He has had success as an assistant/recruiter at multiple P5 programs.
He has a winning record as a head coach (albeit 7-5 in one season).
He is very very marketable to fanbases. Says all the right things, good with the media, etc.
In a perfect world, this is why we would have a promising young coordinator, who knows how to recruit, waiting in the wings if our HC does bolt after a year or two.
You’re dumb if you don’t think an extra 12 million dollars GUARANTEED over a probable 4 year contract wouldn’t talk to most people.
When it’s not real money to any of us, it’s easy to say “You’re not going to win, HoW ShOrT SiGhTeD!”
But to sit here and say it’d be dumb if someone walked away from an extra $12 million in this hypothetical scenario is laughable. If you’re not Nick Saban there’s no GUARANTEE you’re going to win anywhere.
If Lincoln Riley sucks at USC, he could be out in 2 years. He probably could have retired at Oklahoma and had more of the longevity you speak of. So why did he move? Money talks. Money IN HAND. Not hypothetical future money.
Well ****, we should have kept Doc. Mediocrity for 11 years is good for Marshall fans.
Think of how many smaller programs like Marshall started to make a name for themselves only to have a bigger school swoop in and buy their coach.
The coach leaves, probably takes most of the staff and a few good players with him, and the smaller school is faced with starting all over.
I cry for the state of college football, but it is what it is.
The coach leaves, probably takes most of the staff and a few good players with him, and the smaller school is faced with starting all over.
I cry for the state of college football, but it is what it is.
I'm thinking year 4. I'm also willing to use the "young team" excuse for a couple more years.
We cant talk about the past. Take this to the "history" thread. Right Sammy?
At least you admit it. So, “year four” is 2024. Look forward to the end of you obsession with the past and you can join the adults in discussion about MU football. Perhaps by then we will have a coach that can beat teams with winning records.I'm thinking year 4. I'm also willing to use the "young team" excuse for a couple more years.
ALL you do, by your own admission, is talk about the past. As I have informed you, we get it. You have not desire (perhaps not the ability) to discuss current MU football. You state so above. If you wish to waste your time for the next three or four year with endless screeds about the past, then waste it. No one cares. We will be discussing the current coach. 7-5. 6-5 vs. I-A. 0-4 vs. teams with winning records. Picked to win division, failed. Absolutely manhandled multiple times. Embarrassed multiple times.
The current coach.
No excuses needed or desired.
Admit I'm going to give a coach more than a season unlike some who already have quit. Head on over to NM St. They need supafans like you Sammy.
Clearly I was joking. "young team" should have been a clue. You losers used it for "4 years".
You keep making these ignorant generalizations Sammy. Every thread is a discussion about the present. EVERY. You just dont like to read it because it demonstrates YOUR continual hypocrisy. Thats why you respond. You cant stand being called out.
Why the change?
Duke has played in 6 bowl games over the past 10 years. Our 7-5 record isn’t setting the world on fire in our crappy conference. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/duke/index.html
It's still a bad job and if I were a coach with my sights higher I would not take that job. I would raise my profile more here and then wait on a better job. Duke is a basketball school. If Huff wins one championship here over the next two seasons his name will vault to the top of a lot of short lists.
Hard to define any job that pays $3 million a year a "bad" job... Plus, at Duke you have very low fan expectations. You can survive a bad stretch as long as there is hope for the future... Good luck surviving a bad couple seasons in the SEC or Big10.
I've been happy where I've been for a long time. I still talked to others about potential opportunities.
OK, exactly how many. Just asking when the childish screeds about the past will end and you will join us in a discussion of the current team and the current coach.
And, no one has “quit”. It is certainly possible that CH will figure it out and not have another underperforming mediocre season next year, or perhaps the year after that. It just that the fantasy that his single underperforming year somehow qualified him for a job elsewhere, and the childlike excuse making, fall on deaf adult ears.
Yes. We adults discuss the present. This team. This coach. The underperformance, the beatdowns, the embarassing losses. YOU, and pretty much only you, “contribute” screeds about the past.
Tell you what, since you respond the same way to every post, just post the letter “D” as your reply in all these threads. We will know it is your standard ramble of excuse making and obsession with the past, and might free up your time.
Marine you really need professional help being that fixated with a particular player. Funny a 21 year old lives rent free in your head.
You just cant stop lying can you. How about you just post, "L" for loser. Based on the type of responses you receive, I'm not the only one that feels that way. Save us all some time.
This is why your opinions dont count for much. I dont think anyone here actually believes this year's performance actually qualified him for the job switch. Please point to a post that says just that.
However, considering his career, considering his race, considering his mentorship under Saban...he is going to be discussed for jobs and will most likely be contacted regularly regardless of what you think.
5-7
7-6
5-7
Just trying to beat Goddamn Sam to it so you don't have to endure his insanity.
Oh, nevermind...
raleigh - imo you are letting Sammy live rent free in your head! Try this: instead of wasting everyone elses time reading this War of the Roses........just resist the urge to respond to Sam's drivel. As has been stated, we all know what Sam is about & with a bag of salt overlook his droning's. I too have been guilty. It benefits no one to extend these threads like this! Wait, there is one person who benefits - SAM. Just.........let.........it............go.........
I believe "Doc" is the guy you latched onto, continue to latch onto, and won't let go. Nothing Huff ever does will satisfy you.
Just finished reading 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Then it hit me! S.A.M. = HAL9000
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This is great new for Marshall. A guy who wants to move to a bigger job is much preferred to a guy who has no ambition.
You need to learn the difference between “lying” and “says true things I wish weren’t true”.
How about the entire theme of the thread?
But I accept your apology. Since you are certainly a part of “anyone here” you agree with me that this year’s performance was inadequate to justify consideration for another job. No problem.
The issue, of course, is this blind, childlike faith in CH.
It is certainly POSSIBLE that CH will turn around his dismal performance this year. I certainly hope he does. And, if he does, he certainly will leave for the big $$, and probably for a lot better place than Duke, shortly thereafter.
It is also possible that he won’t. Other than winning a lot of press conferences there really is nothing to pick one way or the other. Just a underperforming season on the field, and a underwhelming (10th in CUSA, also 10th in the SBC to be) recruiting class.
We used to laugh at WVU fans whose message boards are just a big circle jerk of how their Johnny Twostar player turned down Alabama, Clemson, and being named commandant of the Marine Corps to play for the mighty Mountaineers, and how Fat Donnie, DickRod, HoldMyBeer and even poor old Stew (RIP) were super geniuses plucked from signing at super programs.
Now, we are just like WVU fans. We used to be better. We used to be able to discuss football, and basketball, on a realistic honest basis.
Your admission is a first step. Work on it. We can all hope together that CH really is the guy, and can turn around from this underperforming season and this weak recruiting year.
I certainly hope so.
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