Longer than the average tenure of the assistant coaches in college football.
Huff's Extension
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Agree 100%
Huff is only going to win and do his best for his resume, not MU.
MU however, benefits from this because they'll be in a better position than they were prior.
They also don't have to pay any sort of a buyout, since Huff would make it known to them, that he's going elsewhere after the season ends.
This is a pretty decent position for MU to be in.
If that's true, its going to be an even more interesting season than we thought... Not necessarily on the field, but behind the scenes.
If we start out, lets say 2-4 (very very real possibility looking at our schedule) what's the incentive to keep grinding? I'm sure Huff knows he can go back to being an RB coach at just about any school he chooses, so if our season starts out poorly why not just pack it in?
Also, on the flip side, if Smith/Spears/etc know that Huff is taking his ball and going home before this season even starts, they better be working on a list of guys to call about our vacancy the second the final clock strikes zero.
Because that's a terrible look... Odds are the guy we are going to hire is currently coaching somewhere else getting ready for their season. You don't interview guys and pick a new coach, then have him coach out the year at another place, then come to Huntington (meanwhile Huff would be officially lame ducking our season).
I hire people all the time... I dont say, thanks for interviewing and accepting my offer - don't tell anyone, and keep working at your current job, so in 6 months I can fire the guy you are replacing and you can come aboard. Lol
If Huff has really told Spears/Smith he's leaving after the season... Spears should be talking to agents and making a list of possible candidates now. In October or so, he should start sending out feelers via a headhunter specifically specialized in coaching hires. Then interviews start as soon as its announced Huff is leaving (in November).
CH had a plan. As Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. CH was going to try his hand at being a mid-major head coach, and parlay success here into the truly life transformative inter-generational wealth that comes from the SEC, Big 10, ACC, and even (for now) the "Big" 12.
It just didn't work out. He just didn't make it. Not that much difference from washing out of Organic Chemistry and changing your major into something other than Pre-Med or washing out of Analytic Geometry and changing out of Engineering. Not everyone makes it. There are a lot of broken dreams. Couldn't hit a curve ball. Couldn't hack boot camp. Just not quite pretty enough to get a staring role in a movie. Not able to hit the high notes every time. Stuck as a intermediate middle manager for life. Its called life, and life is hard and filled with disappointments.
But there is no way CH leaves other than being fired, or overcoming all the odds, actually has the kind of successful season that will get him that crazy money.
How many people in WV make the kind of salary money CH makes. Salary money, not income from investments or land or businesses, actual salary, wages paid for what you did this week as work? Maybe 100? Maybe 200? Maybe?
And this joker is going to leave that? Nah. Either CS will grow a pair, or the results will be so poor that his hand is forced and CH is sent packing, in which case he will be, like MS, be reabsorbed by the buddy-buddy system and return to being a career assistant; or he is going to actually have the kind of year that none of us think he can, and find his way to a lower program in a big conference, and make cash that his great-grandkids will spend.
Or, he parlays our weak schedule into something between 6 and 8 wins, and we get another weekend release of a memo saying its "unacceptable" and then accepting it, and we are right back here next year.
well whatever, but that is how Lynn Snyder hired Stan Parrish. There was no offer in the summertime, but the ground work was done at that time.
IDK man, we're all adults and there's a lot more into every situation that we have to consider... He has made it clear he doesn't much care for Huntington. Maybe he has had enough and wants out to go live somewhere else. Maybe his wife isn't happy, etc.
And its not like he'd be leaving his CEO job at Apple to go manage a Best Buy store for $60k a year. He makes $750k as our head coach, SEC/ACC RB coaches make $500k or more (the highest paid is the guy at LSU making $900k). He'd still be doing just fine.
Maybe he's the type of guy that can put his ego aside, admit this hasn't worked out, and head for something he perceives as "better."
I said after the season and before the bowl, he should resign and get an NFL job as a RB coach Work a couple of NFl seasons come back and he could get a power 5 HC. Winning record at MU wins over ND Va Tech etc. he’d be a shoe in
Based on your track record, we can expect him to be the head coach at Georgia next year.
Umm, what? The only chance he has of leaving is to be fired or to have so much success that he gets a high-paying job? Uhh, yeah, that is almost always what happens when a head coach leaves: They get fired or get a higher paying job.
No.
Not true. Most don't end on those dates. Huff's expires on 1/31/25.
This comment has been made numerous times, yet I have never received proof of that. Where did he ever say that? Some people have said they think they read something in a newspaper or magazine of him saying that "living in Huntington is tough," but nobody has ever shown proof. Considering that isn't a light comment, you'd think it would be easy to find. If nobody can show proof of that comment, we need to stop regurgitating it.
Frank Wilson is an SEC RB coach who makes $1 million this season and will make $1.2 million next season.
Quick, name the last NFL RB coach who landed a P5 head coaching job.
Hell, name the last five NFL any position coaches who did that.
It's not a common occurrence. I think there has been one in the last 18 months, and he was only an NFL position coach for about two weeks.
We need a full-time fact checker on here.
Two examples, both 20+ years ago. That's my point.
There have been far more than that, including far more recent, but the point remains the same: it's very rare. I would guess no more than an average of one every 2-4 years.
I’m stuck on him leaving or not. He has a very solid HS class coming in, with a QB that IMO would be a game changer. But he also hasn’t produced on the field and should have been recruiting HS players this heavy the past 3 recruiting cycles.
Either way I will continue to support MU and will win multiple national championships on College Football 25. Lol
Either way I will continue to support MU and will win multiple national championships on College Football 25. Lol
I like how Sluggz is so critical of Spears but presents objectively terrible ideas.
In either case, we'll see what Spears/MU does.
Yeah, but that’s like comparing the Stone Age to current times, don’t you think? Back then, “nil” meant zero, or nothing. The portal was what the “old” tv show “Time Tunnel” used as a prop, and if you transferred schools you had to sit out a year!
What’s any of that have to do with finding a coach before you move on from your current coach? Just getting your ducks in a row
If you don’t know where you are going next , you end up with a CH or MS
I think Huff gets a better job offer and leaves us without a severance for more money. Some recruits may follow.
There is not an AD in this country stupid enough to hire CH. This is a loser. This a man who openly proclaimed that this job was "not a rebuild". Now it is. Because of the damage caused by him, it now is. So, out of the 60 or 70 jobs "better" than ours, someone out there is looking for somebody who, handed a consistent team, lost, lost, lost and lost. Somebody out there is looking for someone who did an "unacceptable" (his own lapdog AD's words, not that they mean anything) job at MARSHALL, to head up their P4 program?
Laughable.
Fire CH.
Fire CS.
I think what he meant by "better job" was a job that pays more money... Huff can go back to being Bama's RB coach and make more money than he is now as our head coach.
Unless we have an absolute miracle season (10 wins or more), no one is giving Huff a "better" head coaching gig.
Gotta love how NOW you're saying CH was a bad choice and not a good hire.
Where were you when he was hired?
Oh, right, you were with everyone else, wanting this type of hire.
I dont think I said anything. I figured we will see. Same with the next guy, who I think wont be here for a few years.
Opinions change with time and evidence. Just because some of us were excited when he was hired doesn't invalidate how we feel today after three seasons of underachievement and failure.
Spot on... A lot of things look great on paper, and as a fan of a team you always hope for the best.
I once bought a Toyota Avalon that was the top of the line... It looked phenomenal on the lot, had great reviews, test drove like an absolute dream. I bought it, and in the first year it was in the shop more than it was on the road. I knew after a year and a half that car (that particular one, not all Toyota Avalons obviously) was junk. So I moved on to a different vehicle.
Everything that glitters at first, is not gold.
There was no problem with the type of hire. He just doesn’t have “it”, which happens. You fire and try again,
Exactly. CH has failed. His own lapdog AD says his work is "unacceptable".
So we made a mistake. The first rule of getting out of a hole is to stop digging. We now know that CH is not a head football coach at the DI-A level. We made a mistake. Time to correct it.
Also we learn from the factors considered that led to the mistake and reassess the vetting process, so that we do not make the same mistake again.
The discussion now should be what are the sorts of resume points and what sort of vision and personality traits should the next coach have, so that we do not get another CH-type joker. MU cannot afford two bad coaches in a row if it truly wants to remain at this level. We are not a rich state nor school, and cannot just show up and muddle around to something around .500. Others can. We cannot.
Fire CH.
Fire CS.
That's kind of your problem and something you brought on yourselves.
You all demanded this kind of hire when a small handful of G5's had superb seasons using the same criteria...now you are crying that MU is sticking to said criteria.
As I have warned so often, MU settling for being a "stepping stone" for any potential HC, isn't what they hope it'd be.
MU fans want to exist in two different realms at once, and it's impossible to do.
MU fans think of MU as a gas station, then get mad when someone treats it as such and not a vacation resort.
What are you talking about? Marshall will always be a stepping stone unless the coach isn’t good enough to go somewhere else.
What are you talking about? No want said they wanted to be a stepping stone. We all just acknowledged that was the reality of our situation. We were tired of Doc choking at the end of the season and after a decade it was time to move on. Wanting a fresh hire isn't a bad thing either.
You can try something admit it failed and move on. This talk of we should be content in the bed we made is nonsense.
Also we were given the choice of a old failed HC who was on staff or younger coach who spent time on a national championship team under a coach that is in the argument for greatest coach of all-time.
It didn't work. I don't care what approach we took. If we would have hired Lambert and we were in this same position then it would be time to move on.
As to getting mad about treating us as a "gas station" or a vacation resort. All we asked was for him to treat this job like he appreciated the opportunity. He did not. His approach in Year 1 and Year 2 recruiting is why we are tumbling down the conference and why he's probably burned himself in getting another HC position. At least the ones he actually wants.
Frankly, if we are stupid enough to hire an assistant with no OC or DC experience, or being an HC on some level, then we deserve what we get. Nothing wrong with mining FCS or D2 for a proven HC. jmho
Eh whether we deserve it or not is debatable. All that matters is the administration needs to realize we made a bad choice, cut bait, and move on. Unless we win a championship this season, Huff should be let go.
Blows my mind we fall for some guys based on titles or what they supposedly did. It's like we never dig deep. When you let boosters and other high profile coaches push their candidates and you hire them - you deserve what you get. I admire JMU, they actually seem to do a thorough search when looking for coaches. Jmho
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