IRS Tax Deadline

[i am herdman]

Taxes. What a bunch of cock suckers the feds are.

I cringe when I hear some loser say I got 4 grand back, paid the fee at HR Block to get my money back in a day. Bam, now we can go to the beach for the week or buy some Air Jordans.

Kiss my ass. Got to pay for all those entitlements.

And, greed before you chime in I have no employees but I pay an ass load more in taxes than you do. SO suck it.

 

[andy4theherd]

nothing better than writing a check to the government while watching an idiot on TV trying to explain why I should pay more taxes so the other guys can have more free stuff and a bigger rebate check...

 

[andy4theherd]

on the bright side, if Killary gets elected my taxes pretty much stay the same instead of going up $12k+ if Bernie gets in...

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016

 

[GK4Herd]

Taxes. What a bunch of cock suckers the feds are.

I cringe when I hear some loser say I got 4 grand back, paid the fee at HR Block to get my money back in a day. Bam, now we can go to the beach for the week or buy some Air Jordans.

Kiss my ass. Got to pay for all those entitlements.

And, greed before you chime in I have no employees but I pay an ass load more in taxes than you do. SO suck it.

Maybe I'm missing your point, but how does someone getting a tax refund equate to entitlement? Entitlement is receiving a benefit without paying in. A refund is a return of already paid taxes. I can maybe agree with the lack of financial soundness to paying a big fee for a rush refund, but I would believe that not letting uncle sam hold your money would be something that you would support.

 

[i am herdman]

Maybe I'm missing your point, but how does someone getting a tax refund equate to entitlement? Entitlement is receiving a benefit without paying in. A refund is a return of already paid taxes. I can maybe agree with the lack of financial soundness to paying a big fee for a rush refund, but I would believe that not letting uncle sam hold your money would be something that you would support.

You are technically correct and I should have worded to those who are not net payers into the system.

My mistake in that wording. Nothing wrong with a refund.

But this earned income credit and these folks getting hundreds and thousands of dollars back when they don't pay anything in is B.S.

 

[extragreen]

You are technically correct and I should have worded to those who are not net payers into the system.

My mistake in that wording. Nothing wrong with a refund.

But this earned income credit and these folks getting hundreds and thousands of dollars back when they don't pay anything in is B.S.

Thanks President Reagan

 

[extragreen]

But this earned income credit and these folks getting hundreds and thousands of dollars back when they don't pay anything in is B.S.

Earned Income Tax Credit is a benefit for working people.

 

[i am herdman]

Earned Income Tax Credit is a benefit for working people.

How can you get more money back than you pay into it?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

The EITC is a handout to retailers. Plain and simple. But it is only available to those with income, hence it is not a "bum program" as Walden would say.

 

[Walden Pond]

It's a bum program for people with joke jobs who want to live like people with better jobs. Would be nice if they felt compelled to maybe go get a better job so they could live like that all the time instead of just until the refund runs out, but what can you do?

They just don't have it. So we give them a little taste. They would be better off refusing it really.

 

[extragreen]

It's a bum program for people with joke jobs who want to live like people with better jobs. Would be nice if they felt compelled to maybe go get a better job so they could live like that all the time instead of just until the refund runs out, but what can you do?

They just don't have it. So we give them a little taste. They would be better off refusing it really.

Thanks for that increase in the EITC president Reagan

 

[Walden Pond]

That evokes nothing from me. For one, I was too young to even know what happened when he was president. More importantly however, I am now old enough to have experienced both Rs and Ds in the White House and in control of everything.

They're all the same. No matter who wins, we're going to have our little nanny state. It's kind of nice really. Being able to afford it all. They say something about debt. Like we're ever paying that back. Whoever's stupid enough to keep loaning it, they have to consider it gone by now. Gone forever.

 

[herdfan06]

I received $3,100 back (yes, I know I overpaid throughout the year), I used it to max out my ROTH contribution for 2015.

 

[Walden Pond]

Is that where you have to be 59 1/2 years old to get the money out? I can't imagine being alive then. Seems to me it's just money for kids to bilk out of their parents. For me, it would go to the nursing home. I don't see living past 53 honestly, but I suppose it's possible.

Saving money. It's probably the biggest ripoff going. Should I have the "luxury" of laying on a death bed, it'll probably be a lot of regrets about not just wasting it as it came in.

 

[herdfan429]

I received $3,100 back (yes, I know I overpaid throughout the year), I used it to max out my ROTH contribution for 2015.

Then why not adjust withholdings and contribute more throughout the year?

 

[andy4theherd]

Then why not adjust withholdings and contribute more throughout the year?

i used to do the same thing years ago. i would claim 1 or 0 and think of it as a saving account. apparently i spent the economics portion of my college career hung over or something. the crappiest financial adviser in Huntington can set you up with something with a much better "return"...

 

[i am herdman]

I received $3,100 back (yes, I know I overpaid throughout the year), I used it to max out my ROTH contribution for 2015.

No issue with that. You got your money back that you paid.
I am talking about the people that get $3100 back and pay $1200 in.

 

[extragreen]

No issue with that. You got your money back that you paid.
I am talking about the people that get $3100 back and pay $1200 in.

But you seemingly have no problem with a company that makes 1.8 billion in profit and receives a 235 million federal income tax rebate.

 

[i am herdman]

But you seemingly have no problem with a company that makes 1.8 billion in profit and receives a 235 million federal income tax rebate.

Well at least they are employing people and contributing back.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

It's a bum program for people with joke jobs who want to live like people with better jobs.

Not every one can have a great job. Some areas only have shitty jobs. I know farmers with more money than you will ever see, but they still need a local grocery store, auto parts store, etc. Someone has to work there.

And anyway, like I said the EITC is a giveaway to retailers. It is when big screen TVs, appliances, and cars get sold. So really the bums here are corporations and the 1%. That's who Republicans like giving welfare to.

 

[Walden Pond]

Working at a local grocery store, auto parts store, etc. is a great job. People working there should take pride in it and learn to live on what it pays. If I worked there, I wouldn't like the idea of someone else handing me a little extra out of pity.

If $7.25 is all I can pull in then I'll learn to get by on it. It could be done. They're missing out on a nice simple life by cluttering it up wanting to keep up with the Jones.

$7.25, I could cut off my cable and internet. Just listen to the radio or maybe just the great outdoors. All this money is just to buy cityfied distractions.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Virtually no one truly working full time in retail makes only $7.25 hour.

You have to "work hard" in order to find a full time job anywhere that pays that little.

Unless you've never held a job before/full time student/first time employees, no retailer will pay anyone with work history/experience the bare minimum.

 

[extragreen]

Well at least they are employing people and contributing back.

So are workers, you idiot.

 

[extragreen]

Working at a local grocery store, auto parts store, etc. is a great job. People working there should take pride in it and learn to live on what it pays. If I worked there, I wouldn't like the idea of someone else handing me a little extra out of pity.

If $7.25 is all I can pull in then I'll learn to get by on it. It could be done. They're missing out on a nice simple life by cluttering it up wanting to keep up with the Jones.

$7.25, I could cut off my cable and internet. Just listen to the radio or maybe just the great outdoors. All this money is just to buy cityfied distractions.

What's preventing you from living that glorious life on $7.25 per hour? You know you could move to podunk and all your troubles would vanish.

 

[herdfan429]

What's preventing you from living that glorious life on $7.25 per hour? You know you could move to podunk and all your troubles would vanish.

Exactly just ask extras brother. He's living the dream

 

[Walden Pond]

What's preventing you from living that glorious life on $7.25 per hour? You know you could move to podunk and all your troubles would vanish.

This is a hell of a question. I'm glad I get to think a little bit on this. It's generally one of the thousands of fleeting thoughts I have.

While I've got a good thing going, it's still city living. I was made to live in the sticks. All of this was to prove something to people. They goaded me into doing this, unbeknownst to them. This is everybody's dream. It's nice to have won, but is it just someone else's game? What's my game? Probably not this.

So why not just walk out? Just quit. All these people who count on you for this and that, even though they show it in weird ways, just leave them with their mess and go on. They'll be all right. People who don't show up half the time and work slower, they'll manage all right. To hell with them.

That last paragraph. I can't do that. I can't go rest in the hills somewhere with that on my mind.

 

[extragreen]

Exactly just ask extras brother. He's living the dream

Yes he is. He doesn't have to lock his wife in the closet like you do.

 

[i am herdman]

So are workers, you idiot.

Hey, I agree but you shouldn't get back more than you pay in.

I love it when the folks that get this go yehhhh hawww. Go down the WalMart and go the the HR block there and do a rapid refund. Get my three grand back and get some cigs, beer, and go to Myrtle Beach.

Glad I can buy them a vacation and beer for their old man(the one they are banging this week).

 

[Walden Pond]

It used to piss me off, because I thought of it as them beating me. It was kind of a mix of being pissed off and wishful thinking. I always liked saying I was the worst, lost the most, etc.

But I've seen these people. They're not winning anything. This "refund" is a curse like a miniature lottery windfall. It provides a short term bonanza that they can't sustain. They have to readjust to having less money in short order, and they're not well equipped to handle it.

They're not beating anybody. I still wouldn't give them the pity curse here, but they get it. I can't stop it. They'll blow the money anyhow. I'll keep voting against it, but it's not going anywhere.

 

[extragreen]

Hey, I agree but you shouldn't get back more than you pay in.

I love it when the folks that get this go yehhhh hawww. Go down the WalMart and go the the HR block there and do a rapid refund. Get my three grand back and get some cigs, beer, and go to Myrtle Beach.

Glad I can buy them a vacation and beer for their old man(the one they are banging this week).

What is wrong with you? You agree that you shouldn't get back more than you pay in, yet that's exactly what you accept from businesses. Which is worse, an individual who works and gets $3000 back, or a business that profits $40 billion and pays zero tax?

 

[i am herdman]

What is wrong with you? You agree that you shouldn't get back more than you pay in, yet that's exactly what you accept from businesses. Which is worse, an individual who works and gets $3000 back, or a business that profits $40 billion and pays zero tax?

Zero tax? How so?

IT is worse out of the individual. Why? Because they have no skin in the game. They should lose their right to vote, IMO. They are non producers of anything at that point. Offer no jobs, no net tax income, etc. At least the company is providing jobs, charity, and so on.

 

[Rock98Dog]

What company made $40 billion and paid no taxes?

 

[extragreen]

Zero tax? How so?

IT is worse out of the individual. Why? Because they have no skin in the game. They should lose their right to vote, IMO. They are non producers of anything at that point. Offer no jobs, no net tax income, etc. At least the company is providing jobs, charity, and so on.

How they do it is irrelevant. If workers don't have skin in the game by working they don't qualify for EITC. Furthermore the workers deserve it more because none of them move jobs out of this country nor do they have off shore tax havens.

 

[extragreen]

What company made $40 billion and paid no taxes?

There were 4 corporations that made 160 billion profit over a 3 year period and paid zero FEDERAL INCOME TAX. If I remember correctly Wells Fargo and general electric were 2 of the 4.

 

[i am herdman]

There were 4 corporations that made 160 billion profit over a 3 year period and paid zero FEDERAL INCOME TAX. If I remember correctly Wells Fargo and general electric were 2 of the 4.

Whose job is it to collect taxes in this country? Hint his initials BHO and he is charge of the executive branch of government.

 

[extragreen]

Whose job is it to collect taxes in this country? Hint his initials BHO and he is charge of the executive branch of government.

So you're going full-blown idiot....again.

 

[i am herdman]

So you're going full-blown idiot....again.

Nope. You want to point blame so point blame where it goes.

 

[extragreen]

Nope. You want to point blame so point blame where it goes.

I didn't realize BHO devised and enforced tax policy. My bad.

 

[Walden Pond]

If workers don't have skin in the game

There must be a better strategy for the workers than balling up their fists and vowing vengeance on the people they want money from. Sure, maybe they'll vote or pry away some of it. But why not go for more? Figure out what the rich people would pay you to do or pay you to make, then go do it or make it.

I sure as hell wasn't born with a silver spoon, but charity is against the rules back in the old hills.

 

[extragreen]

There must be a better strategy for the workers than balling up their fists and vowing vengeance on the people they want money from. Sure, maybe they'll vote or pry away some of it. But why not go for more? Figure out what the rich people would pay you to do or pay you to make, then go do it or make it.

I sure as hell wasn't born with a silver spoon, but charity is against the rules back in the old hills.

The rich don't create jobs. When are you going to start understanding this?