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Its Time for Legg to find a New Team

I will say this, we definitely need a QB coach.......Litton has "it", as Doc likes to say but his technique is terrible. Consistently throws off his back foot.....Rarely steps into a throw.

This kid clearly has what it takes mentally and emotionally to play the position but he definitely needs some coaching.......Might Chad find the time to help out?
 
Our Offensive line rotation consisted of a Jr. playing Center for the first time, 3 Redshirt Freshman, 2 Redshirt Sophomores, a walk-on , and a Senior.........One senior.....One!

They weren't good but the future is very bright with this unit.......I saw a lot of ability and with experience I believe this group will be very good!

Oh yeah......We started a true freshman QB and played without our best RB.

9-3 is a good year......Get another Bowl win and get to 10 wins and it's a VERY good year!

Too many people on here weren't alive during the 70's and have blocked out the Snyder years.
 
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Sorry but these kids have played ball for a number of years and hitting a hole is hitting a hole. I'm not buying the fact that inexperience at RB has anything to do with our lack of a running game. I'll stand firm on my opinion that Legg does not manage his offense for his personnel. If the o line struggles with creating space between the tackles you should adjust your scheme. I get your point on run blocking but moving to the outside does give the defense a different look, and something else to think about on film. We don't do that, we are vanilla from start to finish and so predictable it's painful. Creative thinking is lacking with these game plans.
 
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We ran at least one clearly designed run to the edge.

We were called for holding so it became 1st-and-20.
 
It would not have mattered much who our OC was this season and definitely could have been much worse. The Oline hit with the injury bug all year really put a hamper on what would work and what wouldn't, not to mention other hurdles that we already know of (new young QB, no Devon, receivers not performing). The Oline has been shady at pass protection and run blocking all year and has prevented our offense from really getting unhinged. Do I blame them wrongfully, no, they did they best they could given their circumstances. When you combine all the problems with injuries and such on offense that we saw for the year, we are dang lucky to be 9-3.

This is not a defense for Legg. Each of his play calls has 3-5 options in them, so if he has 5 plays on one page, that equates to 10-15 in reality. We saw it with Cato and how he mastered it and now everyone wants to throw Legg under the bus?? I really don't understand the thought process here.
 
It would not have mattered much who our OC was this season and definitely could have been much worse. The Oline hit with the injury bug all year really put a hamper on what would work and what wouldn't, not to mention other hurdles that we already know of (new young QB, no Devon, receivers not performing). The Oline has been shady at pass protection and run blocking all year and has prevented our offense from really getting unhinged. Do I blame them wrongfully, no, they did they best they could given their circumstances. When you combine all the problems with injuries and such on offense that we saw for the year, we are dang lucky to be 9-3.

This is not a defense for Legg. Each of his play calls has 3-5 options in them, so if he has 5 plays on one page, that equates to 10-15 in reality. We saw it with Cato and how he mastered it and now everyone wants to throw Legg under the bus?? I really don't understand the thought process here.


Most message board users look for the simplest possible solutions to problems. The simplest of all is FIRE someone. Interestingly, though, they usually want to fire an underling and seldom the guy who is responsible for the folks they want to fire....... crazy, but again, when you are just looking to vent and don't have the depth to understand and evaluate the issues, the easy answer is always, off with someone's head!!!!
 
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I think Legg is a solid OC. I didn't say an elite OC so don't go there. One of the strengths of Ohio for example is Solich has been able to keep most of his staff together for years. Most of there plays are plain vanilla. However what they do well is add in the occasional plays you aren't looking for. So I guess that sums up my 2 cents on Bill Legg. Just mix it up a little from time to time. I agree with many on here if you don't execute it doesn't matter what you call. I would add I am not sure anything is broke. Like others have said we have a depleted team due to attrition and injury. A 9-3 season is great under the circumstances. Next year we will be much better IMO.I think keeping this staff together is a good thing not a bad thing.
 
Most message board users look for the simplest possible solutions to problems. The simplest of all is FIRE someone. Interestingly, though, they usually want to fire an underling and seldom the guy who is responsible for the folks they want to fire....... crazy, but again, when you are just looking to vent and don't have the depth to understand and evaluate the issues, the easy answer is always, off with someone's head!!!!

Its why I go so insane on here...

People think we somehow have the resources to simply fire someone and hire someone of quality.
We don't. Hell, nobody minus Texas and true elite teams can do that...and you aren't guaranteed anything with that.
Look at Tennessee when they fired Fulmer...
Didn't win, fire someone else, didnt win, fire that person, didnt win, fire them, keep the last one...maybe things have turned around.
But having to re-implement entire schemes and changes to a team who has already learned one...hoping to also have athletes who can run the an offense?

A mere 'you have to go' is far, FAR worse a consequence in the long run.
 
Herdstruck posted "My job requires that I help the poorest regions of this state to better themselves in ways to help them as not only individuals, but as a culture as well. I've been pretty damn good at it...but you all are probably my biggest challenge to date. Examples of what you do since you constantly belittle almost everyone who posts things that you disagree with - it's your way or not at all. And all of your constant derogatory comments, insults, etc. So exactly what are you "pretty damn good at" that helps the "poorest regions" of West Virginia. Enlighten me and everyone else on here.
 
Herdstruck posted "My job requires that I help the poorest regions of this state to better themselves in ways to help them as not only individuals, but as a culture as well. I've been pretty damn good at it...but you all are probably my biggest challenge to date. Examples of what you do since you constantly belittle almost everyone who posts things that you disagree with - it's your way or not at all. And all of your constant derogatory comments, insults, etc. So exactly what are you "pretty damn good at" that helps the "poorest regions" of West Virginia. Enlighten me and everyone else on here.

Okay...

I'm a therapist ya dolt. I have an MA in Counseling from Marshall. I go all over the place helping out clients with individual and family oriented therapy. Poor regions like...well...everywhere in Lincoln Co, Dunbar areas, Kanawha, Cabell, Putnam...all over.
This entire state is one big slum...sad to say.

Most of all, its not what I disgaree with. Its the idiocy that somehow firing people or saying you are better than they are, is going to somehow make things better.

I belittle those who belittle the program itself. Why?
Well, let me ask, why feel the need to not just be critical, but so openly awful towards the very people you financially support?

The program needs to remind its citizens that they can easily try to step up if they think they can do better.
Only problem is, when you are actually called out on it, like me calling one out on here, then being told 'I was joking' ...you crumble and wither back to being WVians...clueless ideological pawns living in the past and objecting, rather, condescending productivity as it clashes with your self destructive outlook.

'Lets fire the OC for 1 bad season of football...and by bad season, we really mean a season we only want to look at from one perspective.'
One perspective...that idiocy of a mindset this group seems to feast upon...the firing of someone for really nothing too terrible...the backwards and self-destructive approach.
The 'I can do better than he can...for half the cost.' The condescending attitude towards those who are actually doing the job.

Finally, the lack of perspective...the inability to accept this team faced some major setbacks in very key facets of the game...forcing them to become something entirely different than what they were to begin with...as I said once...moving WR's to RB...converting centers to guards to tackles, etc.
Yes, I am aware the conference was not good...but the losses, minus WKU were not blowouts...the team did not seem to quit in the games...mental mistakes were abound...but thats hardly to place all blame on the coaches.

I also, disagreed with some of Legg's calling in the game. I agree he could open up his playbook a little more and mix it up some. Why he hasn't? I don't know. How about you ask him on a call in show? Maybe say something like, 'Coach, it seemed that Litton was a little limited in this offense this season, was this because of his youth or his adjustments to the playbook or just our overall needed changes of line personnel? Do you plan to open your playbook now that Litton has more experience?'

I'd gladly discuss with people what they think the issue is without calling one another 'an idiot.' Sucks when someone calls the namecaller a name, doesn't it?

I think a major reason for my namecalling is simply reading people who claim to be so far above this program and coaching staff that the belittlement of them is necessary. I guess I am here to remind you that you are not above them. I am not either, none of us are.
You come here and play god with your age and stories of the 'old days at Fairfield...' as though that is somehow supposed to give you leverage over a program that has been around longer than anyone alive on this board?!
Please...Fairfield was one little blip on Marshall's timeline...it will be taken up by several other major changes in the future.

Not to mention the condescending attitudes towards a group of people who you deem inept to coach, when their schemes and approaches, actually worked, put us in the title game twice, won it once, and had us 1 win from being in it for a 3rd time...in short, its been proven to work...and is light years ahead of what once was...under...Snyder...ugh.

One thing I have learned in my job is trying to open perspective for people and allow them to see things entirely different...several never even considered life from different angles...and yet, some of these are kids with hardly a home life or education. The sad thing is, this is not merely socio-demographic, but an entire cultural issue...because several on here...do the exact same thing.

Look at the Yin Yang...its a circle with half white/half black and opposite colored circles in the middle of both sides.
On one end, you have darkness with a little bit of light...this is where the majority of this goddamn page is...allowing all the negative to affect not only perspective, but control itself.
I am on the opposite side...the white side (dont be offended, all lives matter). There is still some black on this side, but I am seeing things in a more positive light...and despite it being there, I can better control what negatives I see and how I percieve them.
Because of this, I can say that 9-3 is good, not what we could have been, but injuries and youth had a major role in this...the team never seemed to quit, and frankly, it really could have been a disaster.

Try that perspective...it may help.
 
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Great herd struck you have your opinions and other posters have theirs. I think a lot of folks on here miss the purpose of a message board. Your last line says it all. "Try that perspective...it may help." Who needs help here? I don't see anyone that needs help, I see people of differing opinions and for a few on here if those opinions differ they're bashed, labeled, and are called out as bad fans somehow. It's childish and immature. What's the purpose of this board if everyone agrees and no differing opinions are welcome? There is none. You try that perspective...it may help you.
 
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"I'm a therapist ya dolt" says it all. I suppose you address your clients that way? I didn't think so. If you are what you say you are then how about refraining from the name calling and display some measure of intellect - as in the majority of your explanation - ya dolt!
 
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"I'm a therapist ya dolt" says it all. I suppose you address your clients that way? I didn't think so. If you are what you say you are then how about refraining from the name calling and display some measure of intellect - as in the majority of your explanation - ya dolt!

Exactly, neutral. Wants to converse with those who don't call one another "idiots" yet calls someone a "dolt". With that kind of therapy training, not hard to see why most of WV remains in the sorry state it is in, despite all the help of all those well trained therapists!!
 
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