John Holliday Reads HerdNation

[mlblack16.]

I really hope John does read these boards. He needs to see what is being said about him...the REAL opinion of his coaching, not just from ass kissers who hang around Shewey, telling him how he's the best we've ever had and how Pruett doesn't even compare.

Facebook was also lit up last night with people calling for John and Mike Hamrick to resign (those who know that's the only way to get rid of him).

 

[marshallisqbu]

I’m looking forward to getting back to cheating and championships myself.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

I’m looking forward to getting back to cheating and championships myself.

I will gladly take it as opposed to this. But to each his own.

 

[RhinoD]

I’m looking forward to getting back to cheating and championships myself.

I will settle for not choking like a dog against teams like MTSU, Charlotte or Rice every year

 

[ekal]

Hate to see posters turn on each other and attempt to relive the past as a result of a very disappointing loss by the Herd. We need to look to the future and figure out how to make MU a consistent winner in football. It is my opinion that a new head coach is step one. I just can't see how Doc can keep the fanbase loyal and supportive, based on his inability to keep this year's team on track. We had the talent to win both of the last two games, but somehow the team lost its drive and thirst for success. Doc needs to be given credit for those good things he has done for Marshall, but he has lost the fans, which is fatal to a coach's future.

 

[mlblack16.]

I’m looking forward to getting back to cheating and championships myself.

I guess we should hope to be like Bama and all other successful programs who never do anything which would violate NCAA regs, oh wait...

 

[JamesSlade]

I’m looking forward to getting back to cheating and championships myself.

This is essentially what's going on now without the Championships. When you take kids who are rule breakers and get to skirt by in life you end up where we are. It's exactly why a complete change in culture is needed from top to bottom. Kids that could qualify anywhere in the country regardless of Star rating are recruited and coached up. 5 Star Culture. A team full of C and D students gets you this. We might not be paying like Alabama but we're bringing in players who would struggle managing a McDonald's.

Ask yourself this question; How many players on the team last night after the game were studying anything other than smoking and Huntington tail?

 

[johns1124]

Ask yourself this question; How many players on the team last night after the game were studying anything other than smoking and Huntington tail?

Seriously?

 

[HucksHerd]

My oh my... aren't we all working and playing well with others these days! I'd say that we were exposed as a fraud last night, but unless you are member of the Branch Holliday cult - you've known we were frauds all season.

We celebrated a win over Appy State as if we had marched into the Shoe and beaten Ohio State (BTW, there was a time when we were a whisker away from doing just that). Then we took three weeks off because we were afraid to get into the mix with Coastal Carolina and/or BYU like we could have... never heard a mention of wanting to be in the mix from our Athletic Department. Just quietly waiting away while we backed into the East Division Title (for whatever the hell that is worth). Then the debacle against Rice in the Joan (a terrible program by every measure), followed by an the most embarrassing half of football since Cincinnati decimated us a few years back. ZERO completions in a half of football and seven quarters without scoring. (Somebody grab the f-ing headset and call a screen play for the poor kid so he doesn't hang a donut!!!!!)

Great to see Stowers launch into his usual defense of Doc - which in no way involves defending Doc - just taking pot shots at Pruett. Some things never change - constantly choking on Hamrick and Holliday pocket sausages that have replaced Stewarts Originals (for good reason) in the Joan.

We need a coaching change. Period... end of story... no reason for discussion. Has nothing to do with comparing Holliday to Pruett or our current players to those of yester-year. We need a coaching change because we have seen the same mistakes cost us game after game for a decade now. We need a coaching change because our current coach is content to inflate his record by playing teams ranked outside the top 100 week in and week out. We need a coaching change because the fan base, sans Stowers and few other Shewey Suckers, realize this is the only path to seeing Marshall Football be relevant on a national scale.

We'll hear all the same excuses - we don't have enough money to hire another coach because Doc works for $800K instead of $1M... we don't have an indoor practice facility (oops, that doesn't hold water)... our fan base is too small... blah, blah, blah. I prefer the "we'll play anyone, anywhere, anytime" mentality - with the caveat that we expect to play those games with the intent of winning them instead of just cashing a check. Marshall has top shelf facilities, strong fan support (check the average attendance for our opponents the past few years), and an incredibly winnable conference. We should be doing in football what Memphis used to do to C-USA in basketball.

Go ahead... take your shots... I'm sure I am completely wrong with every single point I made - but if you read this far into the post, at least I either entertained you or kept your attention. WE NEED TO STOP SETTLING FOR MEDIOCRITY AND SMALL-MINDEDNESS IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT!!!!! Pull the trigger - escort Doc and Hammy boy into retirement NOW.

 

[SuperAnjario]

I’m looking forward to getting back to cheating and championships myself.

Just tell me where to deliver cash.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Just tell me where to deliver cash.

What coach said -“ if you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin”?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

enter Doc, playing by the rules

If this is how Doc wins, we need to recruit more smack dealers.

and we'd be foolish to think there aren't plenty of programs out there doing that very thing.

I am not shitting you here...I know a guy that got a brand new luxury car to play basketball at a certain ACC school. His parents "took out a loan" for it and the payments were made by someone every month.

Marshall may have cheated, but it was bush-league cheating.

 

[herdalicious]

I am not shitting you here...I know a guy that got a brand new luxury car to play basketball at a certain ACC school. His parents "took out a loan" for it and the payments were made by someone every month.

This was from 17 years ago, so I guess I'm safe to say it - fresh out of school, I worked as an administrative at a local accounting firm, and we were contracted to audit a bank in the northern end of the state, particularly relating to an issue where one of their loan officers was caught giving loans to unqualified individuals and fudging the paperwork. We had to produce a summary document that was handed over to the feds on behalf of the bank detailing each errant loan, and yours truly got to type it.

Indicated within were a slew of big name athletes (at the time) native or connected to northeast Ohio, who had been given loans for high-end automobiles by this officer, the biggest name among them being Gloria James, mother of Lebron (who was a minor at the time) for a $150,00 Humvee. My impression was that some enterprising area University was attempting to lure James into collegiate play with this paltry bribe, and Gloria, being Mom of the Century, went ahead and just took them for it.

So yes, I can confirm your story is 1,000% true.

 

[mlblack16.]

This was from 17 years ago, so I guess I'm safe to say it - fresh out of school, I worked as an administrative at a local accounting firm, and we were contracted to audit a bank in the northern end of the state, particularly relating to an issue where one of their loan officers was caught giving loans to unqualified individuals and fudging the paperwork. We had to produce a summary document that was handed over to the feds on behalf of the bank detailing each errant loan, and yours truly got to type it.

Indicated within were a slew of big name athletes (at the time) native or connected to northeast Ohio, who had been given loans for high-end automobiles by this officer, the biggest name among them being Gloria James, mother of Lebron (who was a minor at the time) for a $150,00 Humvee. My impression was that some enterprising area University was attempting to lure James into collegiate play with this paltry bribe, and Gloria, being Mom of the Century, went ahead and just took them for it.

So yes, I can confirm your story is 1,000% true.

Meh, all that PALES in comparison to a booster throwing extra cash at some players for pretending to do some work. What did Reynolds pay them, like $20/hr? Oh the humanity.

 

[herdalicious]

Meh, all that PALES in comparison to a booster throwing extra cash at some players for pretending to do some work. What did Reynolds pay them, like $20/hr? Oh the humanity.

It was an under the table scholarship, which is a big deal for props, and schools that make their hay with props use it as a way to get the best ones.

 

[mlblack16.]

It was an under the table scholarship, which is a big deal for props, and schools that make their hay with props use it as a way to get the best ones.

That was mops for props?

 

[riflearm2]

Ok rump ranger, or am I misunderstanding your avatar?

You should try and tame that wishful thinking.

I'm not the one taking hummers from chicks with herpes.

Why would you even begin to entertain this discussion? YOU POSTED ABOUT HAVING AN STD AND ASKING FOR ADVICE ABOUT IT ON A CAR MESSAGE BOARD! You were so embarrassed when you were first called out about it on here that you went back and deleted your message from years earlier. Shall we repost the screenshot of you asking for help with your STD?

You know what's truly sad, you spend Soo much time trying to prove you are right, on a message board of all places, that you could have been doing something positive with your life.

What do you consider "positive"? I've hired four more employees in the last two months, one of them being a CEO who was one of two co-founders of a significant software company. His co-founder in that company was the founder of another company that sold for $1.8 billion. They think that's positive.

I am making a five-figure donation to a children's home this week. Some think that is positive.

I am going to Tulum, Cabo, and Puerto Vallarta this week. Some think that is positive.

I rounded up my executives to donate out of their own pockets to help send one of our employees to Naples (FL) with her family for her son's all-star football game this week, since I overheard her saying that she wouldn't be able to afford it but could afford the monthly credit card payments. Some think that is positive.

I am back in discussions with the founder of a bike company about buying majority equity of the company. Some think that is positive.

I make fun of morons like you who post on message boards about STD advice instead of going to a doctor. Some think that is positive.

Oh I know, you've driven this car and that car, blah blah blah. Who cares.

Cars? Pfft. I spent a couple of hours last week looking at a hangar. I'm from Canarsie, I'm varsity, chump, you're JV.