Looks like terrorist took down another plane
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I heard today that ISIS has a command center set up that is about half the size of the Pentagon. And, yet it is still there for some damn reason.
the CIA requires a permanent physical address for cash-crate drops...
because of limpwristed morons like Kerry and Obama and the fools that vote for them
It is important that Muslims take a large role in destroying ISIS, because it is an much an idea as it is an organization. Al Queada was much more politically focused (the actual AQ, not the fringe groups that took on its name). ISIS is about the end times and a caliphate. It draws recruits based on religion, not political goals such as AQ wanting the West out of the Muslim holy land.
I am all for air support, don't get me wrong. But Muslims need to discredit it with deeds and bullets.
It would also help if we dealt with Saudi Arabia with some fvxking reality. At least Trump has spoken about that.
I am all for air support, don't get me wrong. But Muslims need to discredit it with deeds and bullets.
It would also help if we dealt with Saudi Arabia with some fvxking reality. At least Trump has spoken about that.
The problem is they are not doing anything about it. We can sit and wait or take that damn command and control HQ out. We are going to have to do it and lead the way.
But when our POTUS is a certified vagina or has his head buried in the sand(or both) then it won't happen.
The limpwrists got bin Laden, and have killed more terrorists than the bush admin did.
My point is exactly what I stated. The limpwrists have killed bin Laden and more terrorists than the bush admin. And so I was wondering what adjective you would use to describe the girly men in the w admin.
Unfortunately killing one guy didn't end the shi*. That's the problem with guys like you. Well, got one guy it is over. Well, no it isn't.
Obama admin has killed more terrorists than the w admin. Guess that little statistic doesn't matter either, right Elvis?
Well, good. He needs to kill more. He let ISIS gain too much power for one. So start killing some more.
FACT, ISIS and Global Terrorist Threat Has Grown Under Obama
Also, the largest movement of humanity since WW2 has happened while Obama has been President.
This guy has screwed our country and the world for generations. Somebody, whoever it is, has a mess to fix. Hillary or Trump. They both know it. Even Crooked Hillary knows it.
Also, the largest movement of humanity since WW2 has happened while Obama has been President.
This guy has screwed our country and the world for generations. Somebody, whoever it is, has a mess to fix. Hillary or Trump. They both know it. Even Crooked Hillary knows it.
I told you and the other conservative dunderheads 10 years ago that 10 years from then the only difference in the middle east would be more money wasted and more dead American soldiers. I also told you that the only way the situation gets handled is if the U S tells the other middle east countries that either help us big time or we're going to dump the problem in their lap. Nothing has changed other than less U S soldiers are dying, and bin laden is dead.
Oh, by the way, the obama admin killed bin laden and more terrorists than big bad w.
There have been 252 confirmed Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since Obama took office almost 7 1/2 years ago. There were 143 during Bush's 8 years in office and only 21 of those took place over his last three years in office. In Obama's first year there were only 4, but then what happened:
Year 2 - 15
Year 3 - 19
Year 4 - 13
Year 5 - 20
Year 6 - 36
Year 7 - 117
Year 8 through 5/11/16 - 28
Bush had a plan and an actual war on terrorism. He took the fight to them, put them on the defensive and kill way more terrorist than Obama ever dreamed of, he just did it in Iraq as they came to fight us on our terms. He almost put them out of business with an average of only six attacks per year over a 4 year period. That's back to 1970s level. Then soft ass got in office, they regrouped, became emboldened because they didn't have to fear the U.S., and look at what's happening now.
Year 2 - 15
Year 3 - 19
Year 4 - 13
Year 5 - 20
Year 6 - 36
Year 7 - 117
Year 8 through 5/11/16 - 28
Bush had a plan and an actual war on terrorism. He took the fight to them, put them on the defensive and kill way more terrorist than Obama ever dreamed of, he just did it in Iraq as they came to fight us on our terms. He almost put them out of business with an average of only six attacks per year over a 4 year period. That's back to 1970s level. Then soft ass got in office, they regrouped, became emboldened because they didn't have to fear the U.S., and look at what's happening now.
Had a plan did he? lol. There were a total of 43 Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide in the 18 years (2.4 per year) previous to our invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Under Bush's "plan", the average attacks per year shot up to 17.9 per year. Love that plan.
And NO, bush did not kill more terrorists than obama. And NO, there was no 4 year period of 6 attacks per year.
2006-2009, a total of 25 attacks.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
The early Bush years he had to deal with the weakness exhibited by Clinton with him not acting on the USS Cole and embassy bombings. Again, just like with Obama, a weak president invites these acts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
The early Bush years he had to deal with the weakness exhibited by Clinton with him not acting on the USS Cole and embassy bombings. Again, just like with Obama, a weak president invites these acts.
The year before Bush became president, there were 3 attacks. In Bush's first year there were 12. 2nd year 46 ( a weak president invites these acts.) There were 21 attacks 2006-2008 for a 7 per year average. You don't get to count the years he wasn't president.
And bush gets credit for 9/11.
Wow, I didn't know Obama went on the raid to kill bin laden?
Obama is soft on this issue and it is costing us. The world is going to shi* around us. He should have wiped ISIS out a long time ago.
Greed might be the only person left in the country defending Obama and his fight against terror and foreign policy. Good Lord, even Crooked Hillary wants to be tougher than him.
We could bomb their command structure today and ISIS would still exist. I know you are a military guy and of course think like a military guy, but that way of thinking does not get to the root of this particular problem.
There is an offensive ongoing against ISIS on their eastern front. We are using the Kurds and Iraqi special forces and giving them air support. Assad and Russia is fighting them on the Western front.
Russia has proposed joint Russian-US airstrikes. We really should take them up on their offer. Politically we will not, because Obama has been clear that Assad is an asshole and needs to go. And before you get all anti-Obama on that, I would remind you that this type of policy is simply a continuation of Republican Neoconservative bullshit about instilling democracy in all the towel heads. We need to shift back to the foreign policy of realism and use strongmen to our advantage (something else Trump has spoken about, in his big foreign policy speech that the lying media said had no substance).
I cannot stress enough that ISIS is not a statist political organization. Their propaganda is top notch and that is how they are active in Europe. That European element is on Europe to fix, they are the ones that fvxked up the Middle East in the first place, they don't get another shot in the sand.
If obama is soft after killing bin laden and killing more terrorists, then that makes bush and his admin nothing more than panty waists.
speaking of terror...
shooting at the White House. have no fear though...
"The White House is on lockdown in response to the shooting. President Barack Obama was golfing in Maryland at the time."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...inkname=news_central&ocid=socialflow_facebook
shooting at the White House. have no fear though...
"The White House is on lockdown in response to the shooting. President Barack Obama was golfing in Maryland at the time."
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...inkname=news_central&ocid=socialflow_facebook
That guy plays more golf than Jordan Spieth.
Conservatives would be better off if they didn't mention foreign relations and economy. They suck at both.
Yes, extra, there was a spike in terrorism at the beginning of the Bush administration mainly because AQ had gone unchecked by Mr. Clinton. Bush was able to take those negative events in his early years and decrease the number of events to where they were almost non existent by the end of his Presidency. On the other hand, Obama came into a situation where terrorist attacks were almost non-existent and will leave office with the 2 most terrorist attack filled years in recorded history. We had almost as many attacks in 2015 as occurred during Bush's full 8 years in the White House.
Obama, and his policies, are squarely to blame on this. He has been weak and, even worse, sympathetic toward these terrorist groups. His Rodney King "can't we all just get along" tactics failed miserably. His lack of vocal support for The Jewish state in the Middle East, his failure to hold any line in the sand he's ever drawn, all showing his weakness and cowardice. He defeat bullies by standing up to them, I guess his Muslim dad didn't teach him that and he sure didn't learn it snorting coke in college.
Obama, and his policies, are squarely to blame on this. He has been weak and, even worse, sympathetic toward these terrorist groups. His Rodney King "can't we all just get along" tactics failed miserably. His lack of vocal support for The Jewish state in the Middle East, his failure to hold any line in the sand he's ever drawn, all showing his weakness and cowardice. He defeat bullies by standing up to them, I guess his Muslim dad didn't teach him that and he sure didn't learn it snorting coke in college.
That sounds great. So I'll use the same argument. Sure there was a spike under Obama....because the terrorists had gone unchecked under Bush. Furthermore the unnecessary invasion of irag provided the best recruiting tool possible for the terrorists and that's the cause for the spike of attacks under Obama.
