Then why can't he deal with it greed? Harry S Truman said the Buck stops here.
Excuses are like butt holes, everybody has one.
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Then why can't he deal with it greed? Harry S Truman said the Buck stops here.
Excuses are like butt holes, everybody has one.
Except your comment makes no sense. If it was under Bush that things were unchecked you would not have seen a drastic reduction in attacks from the beginning of his presidency to the end of it. Additionally, Bush's war in Iraq started early in his Presidency, so if that is what caused the rise in terrorism you would have seen an escalation during his presidency, not beginning 2 years after he was out of office, and continuing to rapidly accelerate.
You know, it's never too late. You could still go take some college courses and work on your critical thinking skills. Get out of the holler and actually interact, face to face, with smarter people. Your crap comments and lack of logic probably woos them at the Ace Hardware in Lavalette, but it just makes you look horrifically unintelligent on this board.
You attacking my critical thinking skills is a hoot, moron. Everybody, except you, knows that the only reason that worldwide terrorist attacks dwindled in the bush later years is because bin laden was preoccupied with planning the next 9/11 attack. You know, that guy that bush couldn't manage to control. Took a real man to get the job done.
And Excuses. Obama is an excuse maker and so are you for him.
Just say it, the guy doesn't want to deal with it. He let ISIS grown into what it is today and we have a problem.
Your problem is you can't see that the invasion of iraq created a recruiting tool for terrorists and increased their numbers by 10's of thousands. On top of that you think putting more boots on the ground and doing it all over again is a good idea. Hey, we found something that makes the situation worse, so let's do it again. Who could argue with that.
That's moronic. Obama has been the POTUS for 8 years. It is his problem to deal with and it got worse on his watch.
That is like me saying wow the guy that owned the house before didn't fix the roof and now I have a water leak. Oh and I am not going to get it fixed and put new shingles on the house. That damn guy before me. It is all his fault. Leak turns into a bigger problem.
Obama is in charge. He let a problem get worse.
No, you're a moron. We all know the problem was made infinitely worse by bush invading Iraq. But you want Obama to magically erase what bush started.
No we want Obama to deal with the problem, whether it's his making or not, not just call them the jv team. You considering he is in charge now
That's exactly right. You amenned when bush set the middle East on fire and now you want Obama to douse it with gasoline.
Every time I see this said to criticize Obama I shake my head. The so-called line in the sand was in reference to Assad gassing his people. Assad is a major asshole, but if you want ISIS defeated you want Assad in power. Taking out Assad gives up Syria to ISIS, they would crush the moderate Assad opponents. The best possible scenario is to have a sit-down with Assad and the Russians, give Assad the green light to crush his moderate opponents, and take Russia up on its offer to coordinate air strikes on ISIS.
Strongmen serve a purpose. Use them. Let's adondon this bullshit of spreading democracy. All Obama did was continue the Bush neoconservative policies of thinking every Muslim has an American in them just trying to get out.
If you want democracy in the Middle East, Iran is the best shot. Iranians are highly cultured and educated and could actually handle it.
This might be the dumbest thing you have ever said here. While I do hold Bush responsible for letting Bin Laden get away, and I believe he would not have authorized going deep into Pakistan to whack him (kudos to Obama on that ballsy call), Bin Laden's global influence was drastically reduce when he had to go into hiding. He wasn't planning shit against the US.
and there was a plan in place to take the goat fvcker out.... but the "green light" was never given......
And Republicans accused Clinton of wagging the dog when the missile strike Clinton authorized failed. Sometimes politics is really stupid.
There was also the worry that more failed strikes would send Bin Laden underground and the intel would stop flowing. It's never an easy decision to weigh. Bush however didn't need to have that concern after 9/11, there were assets in place to act at any given moments notice.
Heh heh. I resorted to making stuff up, since that's what the cons were doing. You could have just kept your mouth shut and they wouldn't have known the difference, moron.
Raoul, I don't disagree with your point, but my point is you simply can't make ultimatums that you have no intention of enforcing. He's like the shitty parents at Walmart that tell kids they have the to the count of three to stop doing something then count to three but don't do anything. The kid doesn't take long to figure out the parent is full of crap and they don't have to listen to them or take them seriously.
That's the world view of Obama, he's a crappy parent that isn't going to back up anything he says. It's why Putin just laughs at him. It's why Isis laughs at him.
That's the world view of Obama, he's a crappy parent that isn't going to back up anything he says. It's why Putin just laughs at him. It's why Isis laughs at him.
Ah, OK.
The Ayatollah was an interesting guy. His brand of Islam was very socialist in philosophy, but he was ignorant of the details of economics; this, coupled with the cost of war with Iraq and sanctions greatly crippled Iran. Compare him to Mosaddegh, who we fvxked in Operation Ajex: he was a very well educated leader with a solid plan of socialism that actually would have worked with the nationalization of the oil fields. Iran would be a very different place today had we not stuck our nose in it for the oil. Shit, if the Shah had just not been the biggest asshole and most corrupt leader we could have possibly put in power Iran would be a different place.
If you haven't learned by now I don't let anyone get away with making up shit, then you are the real moron.
ISIS has lost 40% of their eastern territory because we bomb them and let the Kurd goatherders shoot the shit out of them. I don't think they are laughing.
What would you do about Russia? I honestly wouldn't do anything much different, but that's because while I think Putin has made some dick moves I am not necessarily opposed to him playing Peter the Great. And it isn't our business anyway. Call it dick moves and get over it. I really think Russia can be made to be an ally if we both put aside our Cold War predispositions.
That's a flat out lie. You bypassed gobs of made up conservative stuff in this thread to get to mine. Moron.
You were handling yourself just fine with the statistical crap, why would I step in?
I don't think statistics tell the story on terrorism anyway. It's where it happens that matters, I fully expect the savages to blow up each other.
I call out herdman and Raleigh all the damn time. And herdman and I are friends and I do it. Raliegh might be a serial killer for all I know.
You lose all credibility when you say you don't let anyone get by with making stuff up and then bypass this little gem: "I heard today that ISIS has a command center set up that is about half the size of the Pentagon. And, yet it is still there for some damn reason."
"I heard today that ISIS has a command center set up that is about half the size of the Pentagon. And, yet it is still there for some damn reason."
I heard Elvis is alive.
Greed,
One of those retired general's on the talk shows said, "They have a command center about half the size of the pentagon and we are doing nothing about it."
In other words, why can't we take the damn thing out? Pretty easy target. It is big as hell(not literally, greed it is a figure of speech.) Work with me here, Einstein.
Are you that dense? It is said to make a damn point. These ISIS morons have a capital for crying out loud.
One of those retired general's on the talk shows said, "They have a command center about half the size of the pentagon and we are doing nothing about it."
In other words, why can't we take the damn thing out? Pretty easy target. It is big as hell(not literally, greed it is a figure of speech.) Work with me here, Einstein.
Are you that dense? It is said to make a damn point. These ISIS morons have a capital for crying out loud.
You took the general's statement literally. I know this because you attempted to prove it with your picture. Generals are people. Some of them are stupid, much like some former military members on this board. If a command center is known and deemed important enough, it will be destroyed. It's that simple. Unless Elvis is staying in the command center. Moron.
Leftragreen, it's pretty clear you were not a member of the Wayne high debate team with your poor debating skills.....but could you at least get a little creative with your name calling? mix in a few idiots or dumb@sses with your morons. you are just wearing that one out.
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine
No, I didn't take it literately. But, he made his point.
Now you have bashed the military again.
I believe it was retired Gen Thomas McInerney who made the comment. Here is his bio. And, you called think he might be stupid. You are such an ass bag, really. What do you have a high school education?
Thomas G. McInerney (born March 15, 1937)[1] is a retired, highly decorated United States Air Force Lieutenant General, who served in top military positions and reported directly to the Secretary of Defense and to the Vice President of the United States.
General McInerney is a command pilot with more than 4,100 flying hours, including 407 combat missions (243 in O-1s as a forward air controller and 164 in F-4Cs, Ds and Es) during the Vietnam War. In addition to his Vietnam Service, McInerney served overseas in NATO; Pacific Air Forces and as commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska
McInerney was born March 15, 1937, in Havre de Grace, Maryland, and graduated from Garden City (N.Y.) High School in 1955. He earned a bachelor of science degree from the United States Military Academy in 1959 and a master's degree in international relations from George Washington University in 1972. McInerney graduated from the Armed Forces Staff College in 1970 and from the National War College in 1973.
