Marshall is Absolutely Pathetic for Withdrawing

[The Real SamC]

Marshall won't move the needle on this. But ESPN will. You can claim these bowls mean nothing but they're still valuable for TV and that's why they exist. Once that revenue starts to dry up because games are getting canceled or you have a bowl where there are major injuries from 5th string kids having to play, things will start to change. I think they probably were headed that way already, this probably just speeds things up.

ESPN, is evil, and it is run by idiots. Those two things are not incompatible. ESPN, and its quasi-competitors, spent a fortune on regular season college rights. The playoffs make these games less meaningful. SEC 1 vs. SEC2? Result doesn't matter, they will both meet in Atlanta, and both make the playoffs. Meaningless. Then they came up with these pointless playoffs, playing deep into the winter, and against the NFL, and, BTW, against the college and pro basketball and hockey ESPN also just paid a fortune for. And the net revenue for all of this will be less than ESPN was making from all the bowls, which will now die out over the next 5 to 7 years.

The analogy here is to the playoffs in minor league baseball. No one cares, and, mostly its not even the same players. The MLB calls up all the good players at AAA to the 40 man roster when rosters expand after Labor Day, and the AAA championship is mostly the two teams AA and A players playing. That is what ESPN has created with this garbage. Look at FSU last year, and look at us, and a lot more teams, this year. If you don't make the playoffs, you try to get a new deal for the next year and sit out, and all the seniors sit out to get on at the NFL, and the bowl game is a meaningless deal between bench warmers.

 

[redsfan5590]

ESPN, is evil, and it is run by idiots. Those two things are not incompatible. ESPN, and its quasi-competitors, spent a fortune on regular season college rights. The playoffs make these games less meaningful. SEC 1 vs. SEC2? Result doesn't matter, they will both meet in Atlanta, and both make the playoffs. Meaningless. Then they came up with these pointless playoffs, playing deep into the winter, and against the NFL, and, BTW, against the college and pro basketball and hockey ESPN also just paid a fortune for. And the net revenue for all of this will be less than ESPN was making from all the bowls, which will now die out over the next 5 to 7 years.

The analogy here is to the playoffs in minor league baseball. No one cares, and, mostly its not even the same players. The MLB calls up all the good players at AAA to the 40 man roster when rosters expand after Labor Day, and the AAA championship is mostly the two teams AA and A players playing. That is what ESPN has created with this garbage. Look at FSU last year, and look at us, and a lot more teams, this year. If you don't make the playoffs, you try to get a new deal for the next year and sit out, and all the seniors sit out to get on at the NFL, and the bowl game is a meaningless deal between bench warmers.

I'm not sure what I just read or what your point is. But you seem angry.

 

[whf2]

We just disagree, I don't think it was the right decision at all. Those 32 players without snaps had as many practices as those who have/had played. They may be even more invested in the program as they gave of themselves all these days with no on-field reward; they deserved a chance. And as for the coaches, we have so many assistants to the assistants, etc. that no one wille ever be able to convince me we couldn't have practiced and played the game with that staff.

Further, we've never shyed away from a fight, the potential score would have been no worse than many thought the potential score at OSU this year was going to be. And it is my belief that Army would have taken the chance to reward their no-players with some playing time if they got up on us to the point they could do that.

And your opinion that no Marshall fan would have wanted to see the kind fo game the limited team would have produced is a repeat of your opnion of the game, because many others' posts indicate the opposite opinion; many would have wanted to see us in that game, regardless of the score.

A reset from Huff, and a dumpster fire with this bowl issue are two completely different issues. You don't have to dumb the baby out with the bathwash to get a reset on one person. I don't think fans want a reset from a 10-3 season, one person isn't a program.

 

[raleighherdfan]

We just disagree, I don't think it was the right decision at all. Those 32 players without snaps had as many practices as those who have/had played. They may be even more invested in the program as they gave of themselves all these days with no on-field reward; they deserved a chance. And as for the coaches, we have so many assistants to the assistants, etc. that no one wille ever be able to convince me we couldn't have practiced and played the game with that staff.

Further, we've never shyed away from a fight, the potential score would have been no worse than many thought the potential score at OSU this year was going to be. And it is my belief that Army would have taken the chance to reward their no-players with some playing time if they got up on us to the point they could do that.

And your opinion that no Marshall fan would have wanted to see the kind fo game the limited team would have produced is a repeat of your opnion of the game, because many others' posts indicate the opposite opinion; many would have wanted to see us in that game, regardless of the score.

A reset from Huff, and a dumpster fire with this bowl issue are two completely different issues. You don't have to dumb the baby out with the bathwash to get a reset on one person. I don't think fans want a reset from a 10-3 season, one person isn't a program.

I’m assuming you’re responding to me.

I would encourage you to look up the pictures of the football banquet dinner the other night. Including parents, coaches, players, and staff looks like you had about 60 people in the room total.

I’ll stand by my opinion. Also knowing one of the coaches (who I will not name here) this was the right decision. We would have been fielding a high school level prepared team.

This wasnt a reset with 1 person. This became a reset with almost everyone inside the football organization. This has also served to begin the conversation about portal reform. Marshall will never be given credit for starting the reform process but I can tell you, Brad has been blowing some people up about what has been going on and pushing for change.

 

[greengeezer]

Maybe it is just the soccer loss hangover, but I hate all this bowl mess. I hate it for the players who stuck with us, I hate it for the fans, I hate it for college football in general.

 

[Herdguy04]

Since you like to play semantics I didn't realize 5-7 La Tech is a P4 program...

In the future expect more P4's to fill in.

The NCAA won't budge unless the SEC tells them to and even then, it's unlikely they'll be able to regulate something so rampant.

 

[Herdguy04]

Do you really think there are P4 programs that would be so in love with a majority of our kids that they would guarantee them (before the portal opens) X amount of dollars to jump ship before the portal opens. Is it possible with some? sure. But so many that we have to sit out a bowl? no.

Move the window. Its a simple solution to a created problem.

If P4 programs would do that to Marshall. Then MU is in its best position ever, considering the efforts made to prevent MU from getting better and building their own roster up.

 

[Herdguy04]

I’m assuming you’re responding to me.

I would encourage you to look up the pictures of the football banquet dinner the other night. Including parents, coaches, players, and staff looks like you had about 60 people in the room total.

I’ll stand by my opinion. Also knowing one of the coaches (who I will not name here) this was the right decision. We would have been fielding a high school level prepared team.

This wasnt a reset with 1 person. This became a reset with almost everyone inside the football organization. This has also served to begin the conversation about portal reform. Marshall will never be given credit for starting the reform process but I can tell you, Brad has been blowing some people up about what has been going on and pushing for change.

Not saying I don't believe you, but who would Brad know that's higher up that would be able to make a voice for change?

 

[raleighherdfan]

Not saying I don't believe you, but who would Brad know that's higher up that would be able to make a voice for change?

Not being a smart ass with this reply, but...everyone. The better question is, who doesn't Brad know?