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Obama paid the Iranians Ransom Money?

extra you can't argue the optics are bad. I honestly believe they are seperate deals but timing was terrible and it absolutely looked like a ransom payment to the Iranian media. They will and have used it as a source of propaganda.

That was discussed by the administration at the time, and decided to go ahead with it. I am unconcerned with Iranian propaganda.
 
And because he is a conservative that means you are not an idoit. Personally I don't thin kyou are, I just disagree with your position and think you are most of the time in regards to politics are wrong. you probably think the same of me. so be it. This is a country of free speech, we are allowed to disagree and argue about positions. Go to Iran and speak about your positions and see how long before you go to jail.
 
And because he is a conservative that means you are not an idoit. Personally I don't thin kyou are, I just disagree with your position and think you are most of the time in regards to politics are wrong. you probably think the same of me. so be it. This is a country of free speech, we are allowed to disagree and argue about positions. Go to Iran and speak about your positions and see how long before you go to jail.

He's a particular kind of conservative, the kind that's worse than an idiot. YOU go to iran and speak your mind and see what happens.
 
Lol.

The fact that you and i disagree so strongly only strengthens my conviction that i am correct. This applies to nearly every issue.

It would also go a long way in explaining why you have the presidential candidate you have.
 
That was discussed by the administration at the time, and decided to go ahead with it. I am unconcerned with Iranian propaganda.

Iranian propaganda I can agree with. What about first hand accounts?
 
Irrelevant. He has only the iranian policeman as a source for the 2nd plane, and Saeed has stated he did not see nor hear another plane while waiting.

The plane with the money was landed in Iran, the prisoners were in Switzerland.
 
The plane with the money was landed in Iran, the prisoners were in Switzerland.

$400 million paid in cash to Iran soon after four Americans were released from prison

Saeed stated he did NOT hear or see the 2nd plane you and the policeman are talking about.
 
How long after? Forty years after?

My understanding is the 400m was paid the same day, but later. It doesn't make any sense to me that the second plane (the one you're assuming was full of cash) was instrumental in the exchange if the 400m was paid after the release. Especially when Saeed stated he did not hear or see a second plane while he was waiting.
 
If Saeed was in Switzerland he wouldn't see or hear the money plane that landed in Iran.
 
Extra let's use a little analogy. Let's say you have some scrap wood laying around and you make a bed frame for a little boy. That boy's parents just happen to owe you money for something that happened 40 years ago but they pay you when you deliver the bed. To outsiders would it not appear they are paying you for the bed?
 
If Saeed was in Switzerland he wouldn't see or hear the money plane that landed in Iran.

If Saeed was in Switzerland he wouldn't be waiting at an iranian airport for a plane to land........*unless he was a double agent.*
 
Extra let's use a little analogy. Let's say you have some scrap wood laying around and you make a bed frame for a little boy. That boy's parents just happen to owe you money for something that happened 40 years ago but they pay you when you deliver the bed. To outsiders would it not appear they are paying you for the bed?


herdfan429 said: ↑
extra you can't argue the optics are bad. I honestly believe they are seperate deals but timing was terrible and it absolutely looked like a ransom payment to the Iranian media. They will and have used it as a source of propaganda.

extragreen said:
That was discussed by the administration at the time, and decided to go ahead with it. I am unconcerned with Iranian propaganda.
 
herdfan429 said: ↑
extra you can't argue the optics are bad. I honestly believe they are seperate deals but timing was terrible and it absolutely looked like a ransom payment to the Iranian media. They will and have used it as a source of propaganda.

extragreen said:
That was discussed by the administration at the time, and decided to go ahead with it. I am unconcerned with Iranian propaganda.
So you don't see how this looks like it sets a dangerous precedent?
 
How about not on the same damn day. Wait a month

If they had waited a month, conservatives would have said how about waiting 6 months. If they had waited six month, conservatives would have said wait a year or more.
 
If they had waited a month, conservatives would have said how about waiting 6 months. If they had waited six month, conservatives would have said wait a year or more.
Probably but it's much easier to argue that it was a payment due to an arms deal instead of a ransom
 
You honestly can't be that dense that you can't see that you're in a much better position to say is not a ransom the further away you get from the time hostages are released.

You and your con brothers are proving my point even now. You were told about this 6 months ago and you're still whining about it.
 
What was the justification for giving Iran, a terrorist state, the money?

The same Iran who was making explosive devices that were killing and blowing the legs of our troops over the last 15 years?

No President since 1979, Democrat or Republican, has wanted that money released.

I would have told them to go **** themselves.
 
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Let's see:

Reagan - no
Reagan - no
Bush -no
Clinton - no
Clinton - no
Bush - no
Bush - no
Obama - no
Obama - yes with less than 6 months to go in office

Why again was it a good idea to give up this money?
 
What was the justification for giving Iran, a terrorist state, the money?

The same Iran who was making explosive devices that were killing and blowing the legs of our troops over the last 15 years?

No President since 1979, Democrat or Republican, has wanted that money released.

I would have told them to go **** themselves.

You know Iran kills Terrorist for fun like Saddam? Or do you like to continue to believe the lies the media tells you. How about all the money we give Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Pakistan?
 
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