Nope, it sure isn't rocket science with those "boarders." This guy sums up the base of cheeto voters. "MAGA; ain't rocket science, dummy; spelling is hard!"
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Nope, it sure isn't rocket science with those "boarders." This guy sums up the base of cheeto voters. "MAGA; ain't rocket science, dummy; spelling is hard!"
Other than economic policy, Hitler aligns far closer to cheeto (thus the right) than the left.
How about that laundry list of racial issues cheeto has faced over the last 40 years . . . still hiding from those?
I might be able to buy that if 1.) Trump didn't have a personal history of racism in his business practices, and 2.) Tim Scott had not confirmed Graham told him it happened (and that's a biggie, as I said in another thread it takes brass ones for a black Republican senator in the South to bash Trump).
First, no leader has ever been more anti-Christian than Caeser, who proclaimed himself god, yet Christ and Paul both taught respect and support of the government.
Matthew 22:21 "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."
Romans 13:1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God."
Many suggest these teachings also guide believers to the understanding that faith and politics shouldn't be intertwined.
Second, your attempt to equate Trump with tyrants and madmen is absurd, and speaks to the fact that you can't/ won't engage in intelligent discourse on this subject because you are too indoctrinated into your "progressive" beliefs to be intellectually honest in any discussion involving Trump. Want an example, see your "racist" claims above.
As I have stated before, I believe there's a misunderstanding of what those 2 verses are saying. When we render unto Caesar, we render things that are due him, whether it be taxes, obeying the laws, etc., but the point being made is that we rightly divide what is Caesar's and what is God's.
As for the second verse above, do you really believe that Obama or trump were or have been ordained by God. I certainly do not. I believe that Romans 13 is talking about authorities of the Church, only then can the remainder of that chapter make sense.
This is typical Thunder. A few days ago, I was the one who introduced Romans in this exact topic. Now, he is trying to act like he is the one with knowledge of it, and I have no knowledge of it.
I mean, really, does he think everyone on here is as dumb as he is?
What you fail to understand, T.C., is that your holy comic book also mentions that if anything the governing authorities do is against a command of your god, you are to follow your god and not the authorities. That means all of the anti-christian things cheeto does - and there are plenty - should be chastised by your kind and you should not be supporting him.
It was a drastic analogy to prove a point, moron. The claim your side made was that christians shouldn't avoid associating or supporting people with major ethical issues. You claimed you shouldn't dismiss these people, because people are "infallible." My point was to ask where the line is drawn. If you're fine supporting the major ethical issues surrounding cheeto, why not do the same with other historically putrid people. Where exactly do you draw the line in the sand. That isn't an unreasonable question considering what you are proposing.
And for the racist claim, I'll ask you what Bill ran away from when I asked him: would you like to examine the overwhelming amount of racist incidents surrounding cheeto over the last 40 years? Warning- there is a laundry list waiting for you to examine.
You've pointed out a 30+ year old claim re: housing discrimination, an "accusation" of racism by the Govt., and his "recent comments" - which I assume you're referring to the "shithole" statement. That's hardly a laundry list, but OK. Keep towing that company line.
Yes, I haven't pointed out much of it, hence the reason for me asking if you want to go over the entire laundry list.
Christ- reading comprehension.
Even though I'm not a repub, and I know you aren't looking for a legitimate response to this question, I'm going to answer it anyway.
IF, and that is a big "IF," it were proven that Trump was racist, there would be very few people on these forums that would continue supporting him, and it has little to do with religious beliefs. If proven, anyone with any semblance of a moral compass would reject him, whether they were Christian, agnostic, Muslim, atheist, etc.
The other two? While they might be signs of poor character, they have little, if anything, to do with his ability to govern (Bill Clinton and JFK say "hi"). And, while certainly not Christ-like, they aren't actions that warrant cutting off all ties or support.
Bullshit!
He mocked a disabled reporter and people still voted for the piece of shit.
He bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and women still voted for him.
He has been married three times, committed adultery, is currently married to a whore who posed nude in magazines, declared bankruptcy multiple times, uses profanity in public, owned casinos and the evangelicals still endorsed him.
GTFOH!
The best part is that cheeto actually is intelligent enough to realize this. He even mocked his own supporters for being idiots when he claimed that he could walk down the street and shoot somebody, yet he wouldn't lose any supporters.
cheeto even refuted the claim ThunderCat is trying to make. cheeto acknowledged that it doesn't matter how despicable anything he does is, because he will still get the same support from the deplorables.
I've asked numerous times and you refuse to answer. Where do you draw the line in the sand?
Clearly, you don't draw it when a candidate boasts during a presidential debate about the size of his genitals, when he mocks a disabled reporter, when he BOASTS numerous times about cheating on his wives, when he boasts about committing sexual assault, when he makes disparaging comments about numerous races/ethnicities, when he talks about banging his daughter, when he gets caught lying dozens (literally) of times . . . so where do you draw the line?
And if you don't think committing the most egregious violations of the office we have ever seen outside of Nixon doesn't impact his ability to govern, then you clearly have no idea how leadership works. Oh, by the way, the federal government is shut down. I can't imagine why that is.
The line is obviously different for everyone. You can't lump all Christians together and ask where the objective Christian cutoff is. It's a subjective, sliding scale that's different based on the individual.
I didn't vote for the man, but for me, I can tell you that protecting unborn babies trumps (no pun intended) marital infidelity and vulgar language.
I won't list all of them since I would be here all night. But this should keep you occupied for a while trying to come up with excuses:
1) was sued by and then paid seven-figures to the Justice Department for racial discrimination by not renting to blacks
2) shorty thereafter, was once again accused by the Justice Department of continuing the racist practices
3) treated blacks at his casinos differently than whites and made racist comments (which he has also made very similar comments many years later). He claimed that blacks had a "lazy trait" ingrained in them. He later would criticize the first black president for being lazy.
4) took out a full page ad advocating for the death penalty against the Central Park 5 (blacks). They eventually were exonerated after somebody confessed to the crime . . . and DNA supported the confession. Yet, a decade after the exoneration and DNA, cheeto continued to argue that they were guilty of the crime.
5) nearly 30 years ago, claimed that blacks have an advantage in society
6) he has made it a habit to retweet white supremacists who he agrees with
7) he claimed that the white supremacists in Charlottesville were similar to the counter-demonstrators
8) he claimed those demonstrating with the white supremacists were "very fine people"
9) when david duke publicly supported him, cheeto was reluctant in denouncing duke and his support
10) hired steve bannon. let me know if you need an explanation on this
11) endorsed roy moore who has spoken positively about slavery and argued that a black Muslim should not be allowed in Congress
12) took out advertisements criticizing native americans for being criminals when he was trying to win a casino bid
13) referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as "Miss Housekeeping"
14) "look at my African-American over here. Look at him."
15) cheeto casino is once again fined for racist hiring practices
16) "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you.They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
17) Muslim ban
18) "What happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great. I think that's fine."
19) "If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably — maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. You tell me."
20) Norway = good countries with a non-white majority = bad
There are plenty, plenty more. This should keep you stumbling for a while.
and walking down the street shooting people, and sexually assaulting women, and boasting about his genitalia size during a presidential debate, and BOASTING about his cheating (you keep saying infidelity, but it's his reaction and boasting about it that is most concerning), . . .
No true christian republican could or should ever support the guy.
We vote on platform/policies...........and we are getting results. you continue to focus on emotion, see how that works for you.
That has nothing to do with trump. That's simply a redirect. You'll defend cheetos regardless.
If you're going to quote the NYT, at least have the decency to cite it.
If you're going to make accusations as dumb as this in an attempt to change the subject, at least make them accurate. The list I presented was at least 25% direct quotes from cheeto, so that makes it impossible to plagiarize somebody else.
That list was complied from numerous sources, one of which is my memory, since I posted a similar list on a Facebook thread within the last couple of weeks.
Now, are you going to try and refute his strong history of racism or are you going to continue lobbing out baseless accusations in an attempt to change the subject?
You're saying you didn't use this article at all when you "complied" your list?
I call bullsh*t.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
Heck, some of what you wrote is verbatim from the article.
I call bullsh*t.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
Heck, some of what you wrote is verbatim from the article.
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oh no you didn't! spell check the spell checker! I thought only really smart people could be spelling and grammar police
Yes, because we all know mistyping the “l” before the “i” is the same thing as not knowing the difference between “border” and “boarder,” moron.
You really struggle with comprehension, don’t you? Where adidvi day I didn’t use The NY Times at all? I clearly said that I use multiple sources, including my memory, to compile the list. Further, when at least 25% are nothing but direct quotes from cheeto, it can’t be plagiarism.
Now, are you going to continue attempting to change the topic to useless discussion or will you fail miserably in an attempt to claim all of those things about cheeto are false?
apparently, enough people couldn't give a shit less whether everything indicated above is true or false. or, could it just happen to be there were enough people that were tired of the bullshit from bummer, and the candidate put forth by the dems was horrible enough a person that voters would rather have someone as horrid as trump to be president? i'd be part of that list. my only problem was i didn't vote for him . . . but i sure as fvck wasn't voting for the cvnt.
First, I don't know what "adidvi day" means.
Second, don't pretend like you've never criticised posters on here for less glaring spelling/grammatical errors. You just lose credibility. You're the one that constantly criticizes people over proofreading.
Third, I'm not going to go through your NYT bullet points and refute them one by one. No matter what the truth may be, or my response is, it's not going to change your opinion/position - or anyone else's for that matter.
Our political opinions are nearly polar opposites. Therefore, any valid arguments either of us make will not be heard by the other. That, and your complete inability to ever admit to being wrong, or even accept being questioned, just makes this an exercise in futility.
And yes, I realize you're going to spin this as me giving up, and you may be right. However, at some point, arguing against a narcissist becomes an exercise in futility.
Second, don't pretend like you've never criticised posters on here for less glaring spelling/grammatical errors. You just lose credibility. You're the one that constantly criticizes people over proofreading.
Third, I'm not going to go through your NYT bullet points and refute them one by one. No matter what the truth may be, or my response is, it's not going to change your opinion/position - or anyone else's for that matter.
Our political opinions are nearly polar opposites. Therefore, any valid arguments either of us make will not be heard by the other. That, and your complete inability to ever admit to being wrong, or even accept being questioned, just makes this an exercise in futility.
And yes, I realize you're going to spin this as me giving up, and you may be right. However, at some point, arguing against a narcissist becomes an exercise in futility.
all brilliant debaters call others morons...see extra green.
And that is exactly the opposite of what ThunderCat is arguing. He stated that there would be some mass exodus of support for cheeto if it were clear (to them, at least) that he is racist. We are arguing otherwise by showing that 1) he has done plenty of unethical things that didn't scare off his deplorables 2) he has a long list of racial issues that didn't scare off his deplorables.
You are entirely agreeing with what we are saying and opposing what ThunderCat is saying. Thanks for joining the good side. See how much of a moron that guy is?
Wrong. I don't criticize people for hitting the wrong key. I criticize them for being too dumb to know how to properly spell a word. For instance, confusing "towing" and "toeing" and "border" and "boarder" is not an issue of just hitting the wrong key accidentally. It is an issue of intelligence. Another example is a moron who spells "criticized" as "criticised" which is a common misspelling of the word.
There is a huge difference between not knowing and just having a finger hit the wrong key. I don't criticize the latter. Most of your errors (and the other deplorables) are the former.
And, yes, you are giving up. You challenged me to provide proof. I gave an overwhelming amount of proof. You then cowardly claim excuses.
i must have been wrong about you, you wasn't "with her" after all . . . because i'll be damned if i'm on any side that is/was "with her".
