I had to do away with herdman. That is how i am herdman was born. I can't remember why I had to do away with it.I may be the last poster with the (HN) tag.
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I had to do away with herdman. That is how i am herdman was born. I can't remember why I had to do away with it.I may be the last poster with the (HN) tag.
I may have to take those above words back.
Another party - one who hasn't posted in this thread - filled me in on the CrossFit situation. Wow. Maybe you are as much of a piece of shit as others who know you in real life have said over the years. My god - did you really have to move to North Carolina since you screwed over so many of your friends? Was it worth that better seat at Marshall games and feeding your ego that you're some sort of insider to the program to fvck over all of those people?
And another person who reads this board but doesn't post verified Banker's version of the story, as this person was at one of the incidents.
I'll let another person summarize what it seems like:
I've tried being fair and impartial. But there is overwhelming evidence that Banker's version is the accurate version and that you are a shitty human.
Probably because someone else had already grabbed your name.I had to do away with herdman. That is how i am herdman was born. I can't remember why I had to do away with it.
I think they took it themselves in order to try to run me off.Probably because someone else had already grabbed your name.
Yeah, we will go with that.I think they took it themselves in order to try to run me off.
He denies it on the paid board or does word gymnastics while pretending to deny it.I’d be extraordinarily interested in Herdfblfan’s defense of the CrossFit situation. Should be high comedy
Some. I was, unfortunately, involved with his exodus from the gym (CrossFit Thunder) that he split from in early 2014. What happened once he and his business partners were at CrossFit Huntington I’m much less aware. As someone who is still in business, I loved and hated hearing he moved to NC. I loved the fact I didn’t have someone in town “coaching” like dogshit, embarrassing my livelihood and generally feeding into stereotypes that all CF gyms are places where people get hurt, and hated the fact that I no longer had such an inept competition in townHe denies it on the paid board or does word gymnastics while pretending to deny it.
If you know specifics, the board would be interested.
I loved the fact I didn’t have someone in town “coaching” like dogshit, embarrassing my livelihood and generally feeding into stereotypes that all CF gyms are places where people get hurt, and hated the fact that I no longer had such an inept competition in town
Guys, back the fvck up. Give this man room to breathe, and allow me the seat in the front row. I’m here for all of this. Please proceed, Mr. 13. Tell us, what was the motive behind his departure from the first gym, which I am told is much less entertaining than the second instance.Some. I was, unfortunately, involved with his exodus from the gym (CrossFit Thunder) that he split from in early 2014. What happened once he and his business partners were at CrossFit Huntington I’m much less aware. As someone who is still in business, I loved and hated hearing he moved to NC. I loved the fact I didn’t have someone in town “coaching” like dogshit, embarrassing my livelihood and generally feeding into stereotypes that all CF gyms are places where people get hurt, and hated the fact that I no longer had such an inept competition in town
This thread is too good to die!Guys, back the fvck up. Give this man room to breathe, and allow me the seat in the front row. I’m here for all of this. Please proceed, Mr. 13. Tell us, what was the motive behind his departure from the first gym, which I am told is much less entertaining than the second instance.
His motive, in my opinion, was strictly monetary. He came to me in early ‘13 with pages of financials on how, if we opened a competing gym, could make a lot of money and he was willing to finance all of it. At the time I was the head coach at CFT, but I had a verbal agreement with the then owner (and still my business partner) than I would buy in at 50% on 1-1-14. I thought his proposal over the weekend and rejected it for three reasons.Guys, back the fvck up. Give this man room to breathe, and allow me the seat in the front row. I’m here for all of this. Please proceed, Mr. 13. Tell us, what was the motive behind his departure from the first gym, which I am told is much less entertaining than the second instance.
His motive, in my opinion, was strictly monetary. He came to me in early ‘13 with pages of financials on how, if we opened a competing gym, could make a lot of money and he was willing to finance all of it. At the time I was the head coach at CFT, but I had a verbal agreement with the then owner (and still my business partner) than I would buy in at 50% on 1-1-14. I thought his proposal over the weekend and rejected it for three reasons.
1. I had given my word to someone and I take that shit seriously whether in writing or not.
2. His financials were based almost entirely on me pulling a substantial number of present clients to the new gym
3. I didn’t trust him and resented being used despite the $ he was throwing at me
When I rejected his offer he said cool, this won’t work without you involved and would look for a different business venture. I told him I’d appreciate a heads up should he decide to proceed, which would certainly be his prerogative. What I didnt want is someone continuing their membership and undermining my business by persuing their own ends. Well, clearly that didn’t happen and when I found out I asked him about it. He backpedaled claiming my business partner (at the time he was involved with CF HQ) would somehow sabotage his affiliation if he would have said anything. Of course, that’s bullshit. He just wanted to buy time by approaching my present people with sweetened deals if they left. While some certainly did leave, (more due to his new partners than him) most saw through him.
Rifle, I would imagine that he, being one of only a couple people on this board who know who I am, dances around threads concerning CF because he knows I’m on here
@Josh Stowers , it sounds like allowing @herdftblfan on the paid board is like putting a fox in the henhouse. If he did it to his CrossFit friends, what’s to say his knife is now too dull to do it to you and McLaughlin?His motive, in my opinion, was strictly monetary. He came to me in early ‘13 with pages of financials on how, if we opened a competing gym, could make a lot of money and he was willing to finance all of it. At the time I was the head coach at CFT, but I had a verbal agreement with the then owner (and still my business partner) than I would buy in at 50% on 1-1-14. I thought his proposal over the weekend and rejected it for three reasons.
1. I had given my word to someone and I take that shit seriously whether in writing or not.
2. His financials were based almost entirely on me pulling a substantial number of present clients to the new gym
3. I didn’t trust him and resented being used despite the $ he was throwing at me
When I rejected his offer he said cool, this won’t work without you involved and would look for a different business venture. I told him I’d appreciate a heads up should he decide to proceed, which would certainly be his prerogative. What I didnt want is someone continuing their membership and undermining my business by persuing their own ends. Well, clearly that didn’t happen and when I found out I asked him about it. He backpedaled claiming my business partner (at the time he was involved with CF HQ) would somehow sabotage his affiliation if he would have said anything. Of course, that’s bullshit. He just wanted to buy time by approaching my present people with sweetened deals if they left. While some certainly did leave, (more due to his new partners than him) most saw through him.
Rifle, I would imagine that he, being one of only a couple people on this board who know who I am, dances around threads concerning CF because he knows I’m on here
His motive, in my opinion, was strictly monetary. He came to me in early ‘13 with pages of financials on how, if we opened a competing gym, could make a lot of money and he was willing to finance all of it. At the time I was the head coach at CFT, but I had a verbal agreement with the then owner (and still my business partner) than I would buy in at 50% on 1-1-14. I thought his proposal over the weekend and rejected it for three reasons.
1. I had given my word to someone and I take that shit seriously whether in writing or not.
2. His financials were based almost entirely on me pulling a substantial number of present clients to the new gym
3. I didn’t trust him and resented being used despite the $ he was throwing at me
When I rejected his offer he said cool, this won’t work without you involved and would look for a different business venture. I told him I’d appreciate a heads up should he decide to proceed, which would certainly be his prerogative. What I didnt want is someone continuing their membership and undermining my business by persuing their own ends. Well, clearly that didn’t happen and when I found out I asked him about it. He backpedaled claiming my business partner (at the time he was involved with CF HQ) would somehow sabotage his affiliation if he would have said anything. Of course, that’s bullshit. He just wanted to buy time by approaching my present people with sweetened deals if they left. While some certainly did leave, (more due to his new partners than him) most saw through him.
Rifle, I would imagine that he, being one of only a couple people on this board who know who I am, dances around threads concerning CF because he knows I’m on here
I don’t think he will. He knows there are two other people who don’t post on here who are watching this thread hoping for a chance to jump in if he denies the separate, but somewhat related, situation.He may stop by to call you a liar. He likes doing that even when he knows what you are saying is true.
He may stop by to call you a liar. He likes doing that even when he knows what you are saying is true.
If you knew the accusations were true and there were many people ready to refute your claim, you’d stay away.I wish he would do something. No way would I sit back and let people talk about me like this.
Good cast. Maybe using the wrong bait.I wish he would do something. No way would I sit back and let people talk about me like this.
Good cast. Maybe using the wrong bait.
At your convenience, I’d love to hear about the second separation, sir.@Josh Stowers , it sounds like allowing @herdftblfan on the paid board is like putting a fox in the henhouse. If he did it to his CrossFit friends, what’s to say his knife is now too dull to do it to you and McLaughlin?
As you can tell, I'm not one to get involved in rumors, drama, or instigating/antagonizing things that don't involve me.At your convenience, I’d love to hear about the second separation, sir.
As you can tell, I'm not one to get involved in rumors, drama, or instigating/antagonizing things that don't involve me.
I think hearing it directly from @herdftblfan or the two people who are waiting to see if he responds on here would be the best route. @herdftblfan has already used word-gymnastics to claim that he has never received points from the donations of others, so . . .
I was gonna join a crossfit gym before I read this thread. Dodged a bullet. Being an antisocial lifter will never put me at risk to getting into fights in the pisser.I have a job too but, today I seemed to play golf and post on here 6 or 7 times. Damn, I am a hell of a multi tasker. It is all about setting priorities. Staying focussed.
Having weights at home instead of going back to the gym was one of the best decisions I have made.I was gonna join a crossfit gym before I read this thread. Dodged a bullet. Being an antisocial lifter will never put me at risk to getting into fights in the pisser.
Same.Having weights at home instead of going back to the gym was one of the best decisions I have made.
I am pretty sure it was another poster (MarshallJeff or something like that) that doxed him, he obtained his information by the $10 cheque Ducky sent him to cover a lost bet. Did the old site have paid section? Even if it did, Ducky was way too cheap to pay for multiple subscriptions.Shame on me. Again, it's been ten years, but I think I did confirm or share Duck Eggs/Walden Ponds name and/or e-mail with rifle. At the time, Duck Eggs was destroying our paid site by registering handle after handle and spamming every post made. So yeah, I can't recall the details but I am sure I did do something desperate and stupid by sharing information with rifle.
Maybe. Could have been on the old site. I can’t recall. I do kinda remember sharing his info with rifle, though. I don’t want to act like I didn’t.I am pretty sure it was another poster (MarshallJeff or something like that) that doxed him, he obtained his information by the $10 cheque Ducky sent him to cover a lost bet. Did the old site have paid section? Even if it did, Ducky was way too cheap to pay for multiple subscriptions.
Say what you have to say. What didn’t I do that you are apparently claiming I did?I don’t know, acting like you didn’t seems to be your M.O. about certain things.
The Ducky saga occurred over the summer of 07.Maybe. Could have been on the old site. I can’t recall. I do kinda remember sharing his info with rifle, though. I don’t want to act like I didn’t.
Yuuup. I remember because I was worried we were working together for a bit. That drama killed a lot of boring hours during my summer at the WVDOT hahaThe Ducky saga occurred over the summer of 07.
Say what you have to say. What didn’t I do that you are apparently claiming I did?
Rifle should be along shortly to dismantle that sentence. It should be “what did I do that I’m claiming I didn’t “.Say what you have to say. What didn’t I do that you are apparently claiming I did?
Uh huh. Sure.I am in no rush to defend anything. I'll get there when I get there.
We know, paperboy. You sent your W2 to Ducky to show him your earnings.Plus, I don't know about y'all but d*mn I have a job!
What do I claim that is fake, Benedict? My persona on here is fake, but my claims are real. Your persona is real, but your claims are fake.Rifle is like pro wrestling. It's entertaining but we all know it's fake.
He's desperate for it. He's always desperate for it.
It sure as h*ll wasn't for the money,
I have zero clue what rifle is talking about when he claims that I collected money and donated it in my own name for priority points.
Your constant claim of this is weird. For a decade, you have continued boasting about how close you are/were to coaches. The feeling isn't reciprocated. Promise.Yes, I was great friends with Phil Ratliff and I maintained a friendship with him when he went to Charlotte up until his death.
You claimed to help "organize" recruiting for Charlotte and provide Charlotte with information about recruits. At the same time, you were using your affiliation with this website to present yourself as a Marshall fan to Marshall coaches while taking information from them about recruits..
I am sure I gave him advice as it related to Rivals recruiting but I'd love to hear from rifle what I did that was inappropriate because I genuinely don't know.
Shame on me. Again, it's been ten years, but I think I did confirm or share Duck Eggs/Walden Ponds name and/or e-mail with rifle. At the time, Duck Eggs was destroying our paid site by registering handle after handle and spamming every post made. So yeah, I can't recall the details but I am sure I did do something desperate and stupid by sharing information with rifle.
The arrogance and illegitimate sense of self-importance you have is comical. "When you make tough decisions"? You, with other people, opened a fvcking CrossFit gym in West Virginia. That isn't a "tough decision." Some folks love you and some don't? You continue trying to make it sound like you're some big business, regional celebrity, who draws attention. No. If you're a piece of shit to people, people will remember that, regardless if you are a Fortune 500 CEO or a paperboy.Lastly, some folks love me and some folks don't. When you make tough decisions, you have to accept that sometimes, you will upset others. On the other hand, the friends I've made or that remained after the tough decisions are the quality type of folks I want in my life. CrossFit is a perfect example. I lost one real friend that mattered to me, but I made many, many more.
Remember when you made this video and sent it to Banker in between fight #1 and fight #2?I gave my opinion and perspective on the banker situation. It hasn't changed but I also think the topic has run its course. In an effort to call me a liar, rifle will obsess over how I used the term "confronted" while completely overlooking that I said in another thread that I couldn't recall exactly how things started in Ohio. Maybe banker did say something to me first. Sh*t, I don't remember and truthfully, I don't even care a little bit.