Zelensky has asked Congress to enforce a no fly zone against Russia. Who on here supports us enforcing this? You can caveat it all you want, but it’s really just a yes or no answer.
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That would be a direct escalation and would probably result in a nuclear response from from Putin. I don’t think you can take that risk. So no.Zelensky has asked Congress to enforce a no fly zone against Russia. Who on here supports us enforcing this? You can caveat it all you want, but it’s really just a yes or no answer.
I don’t think people quite understand that’s petty much what enforcing the no fly zone means. In fact, a few organizations are asking the same question twice - only when they ask the second time, they’re mentioning the very real implications of its enforcement. Support drops noticeably when the consequences are mentionedThat would be a direct escalation and would probably result in a nuclear response from from Putin. I don’t think you can take that risk. So no.
Maybe, maybe not. Option currently is to sit by and watch thousands and thousands more being slaughtered.That would be a direct escalation and would probably result in a nuclear response from from Putin. I don’t think you can take that risk. So no.
We’ve already levied historic sanctions. Enforcing the no-fly zone would undoubtedly be viewed as an act of war that would draw serious retribution.Maybe, maybe not. Option currently is to sit by and watch thousands and thousands more being slaughtered.
Big question, what happens if Russia eventually takes over Ukraine, and then moves onto NATO countries? We gonna continue to sit on the sidelines, or are we then willing to risk nuclear war? Depending on which expert you listen to, Putin may or may not move into other countries.
One country could put a stop to it today, and that's China. Unfortunately, I'm not sure they really give a fvck, unless it somehow begins to negatively impact them in some form or fashion.
I get all of that. We're scared. Scared of Putin.We’ve already levied historic sanctions. Enforcing the no-fly zone would undoubtedly be viewed as an act of war that would draw serious retribution.
You're a lying idiot.I get all of that. We're scared. Scared of Putin.
Just glad we weren't scared of Hitler back in the 40s.
Putin's worst nightmare is seeing the allies bomb the **** out of him. But yet, his threats sent Mush back to the basement.
We have 100k troops over there. There’s a lot of shit that’s gonna come out after the fog of war lifts - it’s Ukraine after all. I’m not for allowing land grabs but I’m also not for actions that will definitely put tens of thousands of our troops in peril. Plus, I’ve seen very little during this administration that leads me to believe they’re competent enough to handle the falloutI get all of that. We're scared. Scared of Putin.
Just glad we weren't scared of Hitler back in the 40s.
Putin's worst nightmare is seeing the allies bomb the **** out of him. But yet, his threats sent Mush back to the basement.
Mush and the generals do scare me a little, based on what they did with screwing up the Afghanistan surrender.We have 100k troops over there. There’s a lot of shit that’s gonna come out after the fog of war lifts - it’s Ukraine after all. I’m not for allowing land grabs but I’m also not for actions that will definitely put tens of thousands of our troops in peril. Plus, I’ve seen very little during this administration that leads me to believe they’re competent enough to handle the fallout
That would be a direct escalation and would probably result in a nuclear response from from Putin. I don’t think you can take that risk. So no.
NATO is the red line. If they invaded a NATO country the only possible response would be a counterattack on Russia with all of NATO’s resources.Maybe, maybe not. Option currently is to sit by and watch thousands and thousands more being slaughtered.
Big question, what happens if Russia eventually takes over Ukraine, and then moves onto NATO countries? We gonna continue to sit on the sidelines, or are we then willing to risk nuclear war? Depending on which expert you listen to, Putin may or may not move into other countries.
One country could put a stop to it today, and that's China. Unfortunately, I'm not sure they really give a fvck, unless it somehow begins to negatively impact them in some form or fashion.
Not even an invasion of nato . A missile or bomb. We have troops there.NATO is the red line. If they invaded a NATO country the only possible response would be a counterattack on Russia with all of NATO’s resources.
edit: Which would be a complete disaster for Russia. And they know this, at least now, if they didn’t already.
Yes. A Russian boot or bomb over a NATO border absolutely cannot be tolerated.Not even an invasion of nato . A missile or bomb. We have troops there.
It’s a tough call. We act on Russia, then China moves on Taiwan, and Iran probably attacks Israel either directly or indirectly. They are all already aligned and have told Biden to go fvck himself.I get all of that. We're scared. Scared of Putin.
Just glad we weren't scared of Hitler back in the 40s.
Putin's worst nightmare is seeing the allies bomb the **** out of him. But yet, his threats sent Mush back to the basement.
correct, we are teetering on ww3 already, this is a voliatile situation.It’s a tough call. We act on Russia, then China moves on Taiwan, and Iran probably attacks Israel either directly or indirectly. They are all already aligned and have told Biden to go fvck himself.
Yeah, for as unpredictable as Putin is, one thing I feel really safe in predicting is the following:
correct, that is russian doctrine. We did that in WW2 in some areas ourselves. But, it is in their doctrine now.What precision has Putin used? They’re literally bombing hospitals, apartments, theaters. They’re intentionally inflicting suffering on civilians to lessen their resolve to fight.
The precision of having absolute air superiority and reining it in to preserve life. Putin could take Ukraine tomorrow if he had no regard for human suffering. The corporate media propaganda has convinced too many of you that this is a black and white issue of good vs. evil.What precision has Putin used? They’re literally bombing hospitals, apartments, theaters. They’re intentionally inflicting suffering on civilians to lessen their resolve to fight.
correct. The seeds of war are growing. there is too much movement going on.Y'all are being led to war by propagandists.
Good Points. Although, I do disagree that he could conventionally take Ukraine. I don't think they could and hold it. Their military has made some mistakes and has some issues. THey would have deep trouble taking Kyiv and holding it or even taking it at all. That is a nasty urban warfare scenario for them.The precision of having absolute air superiority and reining it in to preserve life. Putin could take Ukraine tomorrow if he had no regard for human suffering. The corporate media propaganda has convinced too many of you that this is a black and white issue of good vs. evil.
In the end Putin will get exactly what he wants as he has all of the leverage. Ukraine's actor president continues to use his people as human shields, trying to drag the world into nuclear war, all for what? To defend the indefensible? The parts of Ukraine Putin is after is culturally Russian anyway.