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Do not walk out during the national gun violence demonstration. If you do you are in violation of your contract and your obligation as a teacher. Told them to review the terms of their contract and they are expected to fulfill that obligation. .
 
Just like in 1990, right?
? Are you referring to WV? I was referring to a memo sent to NC now in regard to the national gun day violence walkout? I remember that in WV. Didn't seem like much of a strike if I remember right. And, I was just sharing info on a memo that was sent out.
 
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The reason for teachers not showing up would be the only thing different. Many people in America have forgotten what organized labor can do. I long for the time when they get reminded.
Did your employees walk out when you messed with their pay?
 
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? Are you referring to WV? I was referring to a memo sent to NC now in regard to the national gun day violence walkout? I remember that in WV. Didn't seem like much of a strike if I remember right. And, I was just sharing info on a memo that was sent out.

I understand what you're talking about exactly. You stated that the NC teachers would get fired. I referenced the 11 day 1990 WV strike that grew to 47 counties. Not a single teacher was fired. Instead they got a $5000 raise over three years and 27 million to help equalize the county discrepancy. If the teachers in NC walked out in large numbers not a teacher would be fired.

Why? Because a consolidated group fighting for their cause is a consolidated voting block. And if politicians have a fear, it's not getting reelected.

That being said, the gun issue will be divided. But if all of those wanting change in gun laws, including students, walk out...ain't nobody getting fired. There would be too many of them. If there is a weak response, then you might see an example made. But you better fire them all and not just a few.
 
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I understand what you're talking about exactly. You stated that the NC teachers would get fired. I referenced the 11 day 1990 WV strike that grew to 47 counties. Not a single teacher was fired. Instead they got a $5000 raise over three years and 27 million to help equalize the county discrepancy. If the teachers in NC walked out in large numbers not a teacher would be fired.

Why? Because a consolidated group fighting for their cause is a consolidated voting block. And if politicians have a fear, it's not getting reelected.

That being said, the gun issue will be divided. But if all of those wanting change in gun laws, including students, walk out...ain't nobody getting fired. There would be too many of them. If there is a weak response, then you might see an example made. But you better fire them all and not just a few.
My guess it will be a weak response where I live. Probably a few will call in sick. Although if I were a teacher, I would want the schools better protected.

I was just sharing the content of the memo.
 
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At least I had employees, for 25 years. Remind us again how long it took for your business to fail........

A union would have never tolerated your pay method nor your lack of benefits. I probably sold more last quarter than you did in 25 years. So, how did that work out? Idiot. I got a nice deal for mine while you are still a hayseed. You are all for the workers except your own. Hypocrite.
 
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A union would have never tolerated your pay method nor your lack of benefits. I probably sold more last quarter than you did in 25 years. So, how did that work out? Idiot. I got a nice deal for mine while you are still a hayseed. You are all for the workers except your own. Hypocrite.

6 million would be a pretty good quarter, yokel.
You didn't answer the question. How long did your "business" last?
 
My guess it will be a weak response where I live. Probably a few will call in sick. Although if I were a teacher, I would want the schools better protected.

I was just sharing the content of the memo.


The gun issue will divide teachers. My guess is that the division would fall pretty close to the same percentages you see across the general population. Maybe just a little higher number of teachers on the gun control side.

Sorry to hijack your thread but you appear to be done with it. :) This is why I believe WV teachers need to stick with this while they've caught lightning in a bottle. The teachers here have only striked one time and it was a majority and it was effective, but it wasn't unanimous. There were 47 out of 55 counties, and that only started with 8 or 9 counties and built over 11 days.

Health care is broken in this country and it needs addressed not only in WV, but on a national level. The entire system needs rethought. The problem is both in WV and nationally the politicians aren't addressing the issue and are kicking the can down the road. This is because a fix involves taking on powerful lobbies and big money that stand to lose when they do address it.

I don't know the answer, but I know the burden can't continue to be shifted to the people. We are at a point where people are getting sick and those without means are dying at a higher rate simply because they can't afford the care they need. That's a travesty in the world's richest country.

The WV legislature has been content with not addressing the issue for years while the cost, copay, and deductibles have continued to raise while simultaneously placing a myriad of hoops to jump through and a quagmire of confusing administrative requirements to maneuver that are designed purposely to catch you up so they can charge you a higher rate.

It isn't often that you can hold politicians accountable. You're only one person and everyone is so busy carrying on the responsibilities of their lives that it is difficult to get on the same page in a way that actually makes our elected officials listen. The teachers are in a position that is once in a lifetime. They have everyone in the same page. They need to stick with this now because it will likely be a long time before we're back in this position.
 
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Still wondering how avg teacher pay of $40k a year in WV equates to needing WIC as someone claimed.

If the teachers get what they want how much should we expect WV education to jump in the rankings??
 
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6 million would be a pretty good quarter, yokel.
You didn't answer the question. How long did your "business" last?
Ok, 6 million is a year and a quarter. Year and half on a slower year.

4 years and the big boys came calling and show me the $$$$$. I can make a hell of lot more money. Why be a hayseed ?
 
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The gun issue will divide teachers. My guess is that the division would fall pretty close to the same percentages you see across the general population. Maybe just a little higher number of teachers on the gun control side.

Sorry to hijack your thread but you appear to be done with it. :) This is why I believe WV teachers need to stick with this while they've caught lightning in a bottle. The teachers here have only striked one time and it was a majority and it was effective, but it wasn't unanimous. There were 47 out of 55 counties, and that only started with 8 or 9 counties and built over 11 days.

Health care is broken in this country and it needs addressed not only in WV, but on a national level. The entire system needs rethought. The problem is both in WV and nationally the politicians aren't addressing the issue and are kicking the can down the road. This is because a fix involves taking on powerful lobbies and big money that stand to lose when they do address it.

I don't know the answer, but I know the burden can't continue to be shifted to the people. We are at a point where people are getting sick and those without means are dying at a higher rate simply because they can't afford the care they need. That's a travesty in the world's richest country.

The WV legislature has been content with not addressing the issue for years while the cost, copay, and deductibles have continued to raise while simultaneously placing a myriad of hoops to jump through and a quagmire of confusing administrative requirements to maneuver that are designed purposely to catch you up so they can charge you a higher rate.

It isn't often that you can hold politicians accountable. You're only one person and everyone is so busy carrying on the responsibilities of their lives that it is difficult to get on the same page in a way that actually makes our elected officials listen. The teachers are in a position that is once in a lifetime. They have everyone in the same page. They need to stick with this now because it will likely be a long time before we're back in this position.
Not to switch gears, but what exactly are you guys fighting for? You get insurance at a pretty good deal comparatively speaking. Sure teachers deserve more money, but that is the case everywhere and where does that come from?

I have never seen your case effectively argued. The politicians are kicking the can down the road, but I don't know why PEIA even exists. The state up there needs to get out of that business. On the flip side, health care for every one has gone up and yours is a pretty good deal it seems. Are they just supposed to give it to you? How is a state like WV going to pay for it? Not like the state is growing. Seems like everyone in all places is going to have to pay more. I know I am. The teachers and state workers up there got used to relatively low health care where in many cases it seemed to be almost free. No such thing as a free lunch.

I have never seen it effectively argued. Other than give me health care at a low cost while the rest of the country is paying more everywhere. Your state is virtually bankrupt, has has a declining population for 30 years or more, and has its main industry in decline. The cost of living there is low and your insurance is pretty low. So, who pays for it?
 
Honest question - do other states have public employees insurance? I don’t know the answer to that .
 
What does that even mean?
I take it the argument was for more pay because the lady was on WIC. I think teachers are under paid in many cases(for the record). I just find it hard to hear sometimes when they know that going into it. In addition, throw in the work hours for the year and good benefits along with things like job security and it helps offset pay. I am also trying to understand the WV teachers situation that is going on. I have not heard a good argument for what is going on.
 
My initial career out of college would have never paid me more than40-50K a year regardless of education or experience. (I started at 25k) I knew that going in. It was what it was. After a couple years I realized I needed to have a better opportunity for growth and financial freedom. I decided to take a different direction.

If the teachers get what they want....what exactly do the tax payers in WV get in return? What improvement should they expect to see in national education rankings?
 
I have not heard a good argument for what is going on.

There is no argument that could be made that you would think is good. You're like nearly every single con who thinks that everyone but themselves is making too much money.
 
There is no argument that could be made that you would think is good. You're like nearly every single con who thinks that everyone but themselves is making too much money.

Just as you thought your former employees (before your business went under) were making too much money when you "renegotiated" their pay structure without their input.
 
Ok, 6 million is a year and a quarter. Year and half on a slower year.

4 years and the big boys came calling and show me the $$$$$. I can make a hell of lot more money. Why be a hayseed ?

You sell $90,000 per week, and you're on this board all the time. Sorry, I ain't a buying customer. I ain't buying 4 years either.
 
Just as you thought your former employees (before your business went under) were making too much money when you "renegotiated" their pay structure without their input.

Look^^^it's the liar who thinks more of his dog than his own mother. You ever tell her where she is on your priority list. moron.
 
Look^^^it's the liar who thinks more of his dog than his own mother. You ever tell her where she is on your priority list. moron.

Did your business fail because your employees went on strike, greed? Did they picket outside your shop chanting they want some of that pink Caddy money? They're out in the shop doing all the work and you're behind a computer screen praising L. Ron Hubbard and Jesus simultaneously while calling your neighbors "moron" and "idiot."
 
Did your business fail because your employees went on strike, greed? Did they picket outside your shop chanting they want some of that pink Caddy money? They're out in the shop doing all the work and you're behind a computer screen praising L. Ron Hubbard and Jesus simultaneously while calling your neighbors "moron" and "idiot."

Did your dad throw you a lot of money to get you out of the house? Or did he realize you couldn't dig a bucket of coal with a backhoe and a copilot for help?
 
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