Terrible Jan 6 footage

[i am herdman]

Police officers were assaulted by groups of people with sticks, heavy objects, tasers, bear spray, etc. They were most certainly armed. Just another lie from Herdman.

The standard for deadly force defense is prevention of death or serious bodily harm of one's self or of others. When a crowd of people are beating the snot out of someone, that definition is met...even without weapons. I am shocked a great patriot and 2A supporter like yourself would not know this.

So what if law enforcement had use your tactic in the BLM riots?

I also know trigger discipline and situation awareness.

I was watching a guy who was on the team that captured Saddaam Husseign. From the best counter terrorism force on the planet. He was asked why Husseign wasn't shot. He said, when they pulled the plug he was in on the ground what they saw was an old man in a hole with his hands up. He said nobody in that unit would have shot him under that circumstance.

The woman who was shot on Jan 6 put herself in a bad situation. No doubt. Don't be there doing that. But, did the cop get trigger happy?

When there are rioters you don't go spraying bullets into the crowd. Not sure what you are suggesting.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

Here's why I don't take any of the granstanding by the Left seriously.

 

[SamSwimmer]

Here's why I don't take any of the granstanding by the Left seriously.

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I honestly don’t understand the objection to releasing the video. The layout of those buildings isn’t exactly secret. It’s not like they didn’t improve security & processes in the years since Jan 6.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE JANUARY 6TH GUY WHO HAD THE LEGO SET OF THE CAPITAL

 

[mlblack16.]

I honestly don’t understand the objection to releasing the video. The layout of those buildings isn’t exactly secret. It’s not like they didn’t improve security & processes in the years since Jan 6.

None of this would likely have even happened had Nancy Skeletor ordered security forces as suggested, based on reports.

She willfully encouraged this to happen then cried foul afterwards. All the libs on here (looking at you @Raoul Duke MU ) won't even acknowledge ANY of the footage of cops casually opening doors and pulling back barricades.

Why is that? Why can't libs be honest and just admit there's no disputing things don't add up?

 

[19MU88]

None of this would likely have even happened had Nancy Skeletor ordered security forces as suggested, based on reports.

She willfully encouraged this to happen then cried foul afterwards. All the libs on here (looking at you @Raoul Duke MU ) won't even acknowledge ANY of the footage of cops casually opening doors and pulling back barricades.

Why is that? Why can't libs be honest and just admit there's no disputing things don't add up?

people better wake up, we are living in a police state that's on it's way to being even worse. federal agents and CIs all through that crowd, they wanted the riot and they want them in the Capitol so they could put on the show and prosecute Trump supporters. They still going after them.

What would be attributes of a police state?
control the media - - See crazy reporting of both what is news and what isn't news. see twiiter tha past few years.
silence and prosecute political opponents - see what they've done to Trump and others since 2016.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

J6 was 100% a complete and total failure by the Capitol Police.

Did you people actually fall for those tapes that should never have been in the hands of liar Tucker? It is one thing to be true to your political party it is another to be such fools. The Republican Congress people who were actually there that day are angry and totally disagree with liar Tucks attempt to turn that into a casual tour of the capitol building. You guys have lost all sense of reality.

 

[WVUSerg]

Did you people actually fall for those tapes that should never have been in the hands of liar Tucker? It is one thing to be true to your political party it is another to be such fools. The Republican Congress people who were actually there that day are angry and totally disagree with liar Tucks attempt to turn that into a casual tour of the capitol building. You guys have lost all sense of reality.

Did you watch the video?

 

[SamSwimmer]

Remember when rioters beat that capitol police officer to death?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/police-officer-killed-capitol.html

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Did you watch the video?

I looked at them , I also saw the live real tapes on that day. did you ? That was clearly and insurrection and the one police person who died the next day from from blows to the back of his neck was no made up story. You people really do need a reality check.Those rioters had no reason to be on the lawn let alone in or capital building. It was no set up . They had intent to try and over throw our government and kill the vice president and others.

 

[SamSwimmer]

I looked at them , I also saw the live real tapes on that day. did you ? That was clearly and insurrection and the one police person who died the next day from from blows to the back of his neck was no made up story. You people really do need a reality check.

Again, you’re trying too hard. Dial it back a little bit to make this account believable.

 

[WVUSerg]

I looked at them , I also saw the live real tapes on that day. did you ? That was clearly and insurrection and the one police person who died the next day from from blows to the back of his neck was no made up story. You people really do need a reality check.

Mostly peaceful protest with a guided tour

 

[19MU88]

Think about it.....much of the main stream press as well as most of Washington doesn't want these videos (otherwise known as news) out for view. The Gov is understandable as they are taking away gov of the people for the people. But the news media??? The news media is angry at Tucker Carlson for showing what happened (formerly known as news)

 

[SamSwimmer]

Think about it.....much of the main stream press as well as most of Washington doesn't want these videos (otherwise known as new) out for view. The Gov is understandable as they are taking away gov of the people for the people. But the news media??? The news media is angry at Tucker Carlson for showing what happened (formerly known as news)

At some point democrats have to call Adam Schiff out for constantly (& I do mean constantly) lying to them & keeping them unnecessarily worked up.

 

[KyMUfan]

Police officers were assaulted by groups of people with sticks, heavy objects, tasers, bear spray, etc. They were most certainly armed. Just another lie from Herdman.

The standard for deadly force defense is prevention of death or serious bodily harm of one's self or of others. When a crowd of people are beating the snot out of someone, that definition is met...even without weapons. I am shocked a great patriot and 2A supporter like yourself would not know this.

Yeah... That's surely what happened in the major US cities during the previous summer...

Two-way street dude. Shame you only look one way before you cross it...

 

[mlblack16.]

At some point democrats have to call Adam Schiff out for constantly (& I do mean constantly) lying to them & keeping them unnecessarily worked up.

As long as there are useful idiots like @OldielovesHerd who will toe the line for all the lies there will be no accountability with DemonCrats.

The sad part is, Oldie actually thinks the lies he's fed are 100% Gospel truth.

 

[Rock98Dog]

FBI director Ray was asked under oath if there were FBI agents or informants dressed as Trump supporters inside the capital waiting before the protestors entered.

He refused to answer.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Mostly peaceful protest with a guided tour

I just hope I would never be a part of such a peaceful protest with a guided tour. Why did they beat up and spray their guides ?

 

[Marshall Jeff]

It is one thing to be true to your political party it is another to be such fools.

You just described yourself perfectly

 

[WVUSerg]

I just hope I would never be a part of such a peaceful protest with a guided tour. Why did they beat up and spray their guides ?

Those were the ones that were not mostly peaceful

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Those were the ones that were not mostly peaceful

Yes and they outnumbered the police by a large amount.

 

[WVUSerg]

Trump took shelter in a White House bunker as protests raged

Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker on Friday night as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the executive mansion, some of them throwing rocks and tugging at police barricades.

www.cnbc.com

Did you condemn this as well

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Trump took shelter in a White House bunker as protests raged

Secret Service agents rushed President Donald Trump to a White House bunker on Friday night as hundreds of protesters gathered outside the executive mansion, some of them throwing rocks and tugging at police barricades.

www.cnbc.com

Did you condemn this as well

I did not approve of it.

 

[WV-FAN]

Did you people actually fall for those tapes that should never have been in the hands of liar Tucker? It is one thing to be true to your political party it is another to be such fools. The Republican Congress people who were actually there that day are angry and totally disagree with liar Tucks attempt to turn that into a casual tour of the capitol building. You guys have lost all sense of reality.

fall for video evidence? tapes that showed actual footage should be revealed? why is that? doesn't support the narrative that you've allowed your overlords to shove up your ass? albeit i'm not surprised, how in the blue blazes of bloody hell do people like you not wake up and realize the porterhouse steaks they tell you they've been feeding you is actually pure bullshit?

yore side: "it happened!! how horrible!"

others: "here's video evidence that what you've been told is a lie."

yore side: "well, durrrrrr, that video shouldn't have been shown, it's a lie!!!"

how damn stupid can you people really be? (rhetorical)

as an aside, it's astonishing how much this has both the dems and cons panties bunched up. to the point that they're smearing tucker wayyyyyy worse than normal. fabricated text messages saying he hates trump? reggi, please. i couldn't give two shits less about carlson, never watch him, but it's fvckin' hilarious, and obvious, how the swamp and media are going full bore to totally discredit him about everything to the point i'd be wiling to bet a majority of the shit they spew about him is fictional.

 

[HerdandHokies]

I fully agree that the Capitol police should’ve started shooting much earlier if that’s what we’re saying.

 

[i am herdman]

I fully agree that the Capitol police should’ve started shooting much earlier if that’s what we’re saying.

Why do say they should have shot earlier versus a BLM riot or other situation like that?

What would be their justfication of shooting in that sitatution?

If the crowd would have been black BLM rioters would you say the same thing?

Some of you guys don't have much discipline.

Have you ever seen an after action review of Kent State?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

So what if law enforcement had use your tactic in the BLM riots?

I have been clear: actual violent rioters/dipshits should be met with force, deadly if necessary.

I have no problem with LMPD and the National Guard smoking the BBQ joint owner. Dude shot at them.

I do have a problem with police shooting pepper balls at the face of news reporters, or beating a handcuffed protester in the head with a baton.

See the difference?

Obviously I paid much more attention to the events that happened here, and my above examples are what happened here. show me some videos from elsewhere and I will give you my opinion, which will be consistent.

All the libs on here (looking at you @Raoul Duke MU ) won't even acknowledge ANY of the footage of cops casually opening doors and pulling back barricades.

You were told a long time ago: some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.

FBI director Ray was asked under oath if there were FBI agents or informants dressed as Trump supporters inside the capital waiting before the protestors entered.

He refused to answer

He categorically said he would not answer any question on undercovers or CIs. As he should not. This might come as a shock to you, but the FBI infiltrates extremist and criminal groups. Ask the Klan, Aryans, biker gangs, the mob, Muslim nuts if you don't believe it.

 

[mlblack16.]

I fully agree that the Capitol police should’ve started shooting much earlier if that’s what we’re saying.

If that's your take on the actual video footage, destroying your hopes and dreams of an insurrection, that tells us all we need to know.

You refuse to accept the truth, no matter what so long as it allows you to keep your narrative.

 

[herdfan429]

The Jan 6 committee had an agenda and released video supporting it. Tucker Carlson has an agenda and is cherry picking video to release to support it. All the video should be released and anyone arguing otherwise isn’t a serious person. And that includes chuck Schumer and Mitch mcconnell

 

[OldielovesHerd]

fall for video evidence? tapes that showed actual footage should be revealed? why is that? doesn't support the narrative that you've allowed your overlords to shove up your ass? albeit i'm not surprised, how in the blue blazes of bloody hell do people like you not wake up and realize the porterhouse steaks they tell you they've been feeding you is actually pure bullshit?

yore side: "it happened!! how horrible!"

others: "here's video evidence that what you've been told is a lie."

yore side: "well, durrrrrr, that video shouldn't have been shown, it's a lie!!!"

how damn stupid can you people really be? (rhetorical)

as an aside, it's astonishing how much this has both the dems and cons panties bunched up. to the point that they're smearing tucker wayyyyyy worse than normal. fabricated text messages saying he hates trump? reggi, please. i couldn't give two shits less about carlson, never watch him, but it's fvckin' hilarious, and obvious, how the swamp and media are going full bore to totally discredit him about everything to the point i'd be wiling to bet a majority of the shit they spew about him is fictional.

Why doesnt fox news show all the tapes every bit of what was given them. I tell you why because they do not want people to the see the real bloody and gory truth of that attack on our capital .

 

[i am herdman]

If that's your take on the actual video footage, destroying your hopes and dreams of an insurrection, that tells us all we need to know.

You refuse to accept the truth, no matter what so long as it allows you to keep your narrative.

exactly,

He is basically saying hey let's let people in and then shoot them. Their whole narrative is blown to heck.

 

[i am herdman]

Why doesnt fox news show all the tapes every bit of what was given them. I tell you why because they do not want people to the see the real bloody and gory truth of that attack on our capital .

hahahaha, the battle was so bloody that they ended up voting a few hours later.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

hahahaha, the battle was so bloody that they ended up voting a few hours later.

What does that prove what happened before?

 

[19MU88]

I fully agree that the Capitol police should’ve started shooting much earlier if that’s what we’re saying.

they couldn't risk shooting the FBI agents and CIs in the crowd

 

[i am herdman]

What does that prove what happened before?

Well, the govt was nearly overthrown and the battle was so bloody that they were able to vote a couple of hours later.

Not much of a battle was it? Hell, Man Bear Pig was being led on a personal tour. He is half retarded and they threw him in the pen for years after walking the guy around like he paid the extra $50 bucks for the solo tour.

 

[mlblack16.]

Why doesnt fox news show all the tapes every bit of what was given them. I tell you why because they do not want people to the see the real bloody and gory truth of that attack on our capital .

You're talking about an overwhelming amount of footage, you soft-headed somebitch.

They would have to play it non-stop for weeks to show everyone "all the tapes."

 

[WV-FAN]

I have been clear: actual violent rioters/dipshits should be met with force, deadly if necessary.

I have no problem with LMPD and the National Guard smoking the BBQ joint owner. Dude shot at them.

I do have a problem with police shooting pepper balls at the face of news reporters, or beating a handcuffed protester in the head with a baton.

See the difference?

Obviously I paid much more attention to the events that happened here, and my above examples are what happened here. show me some videos from elsewhere and I will give you my opinion, which will be consistent.


You were told a long time ago: some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.


He categorically said he would not answer any question on undercovers or CIs. As he should not. This might come as a shock to you, but the FBI infiltrates extremist and criminal groups. Ask the Klan, Aryans, biker gangs, the mob, Muslim nuts if you don't believe it.

definition of a paper asshole right there.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

definition of a paper asshole right there.

You are the definition of a corn cob asshole, that's what you wipe with.

 

[WV-FAN]

You are the definition of a corn cob asshole, that's what you wipe with.

 

[SamSwimmer]

They should have never broken in. It’s hard to argue folks shouldn’t be prosecuted as long as they weren’t coerced by govy agents. But leave it up to televised political committees to take it to an extreme where holes can get easily poked into the narrative.