The basketball team is terrible.

[ThunderCat98]

Led the entire game only to blow it in the last minute. Shit coaching and shit players. Least talented team in the conference. Be lucky to win 12 games. Dan set the program back by staying too long and then absolutely crippled it by demanding Jackson take over. Marshall's athletic department is a dumpster fire. And some of you sit around like this guy:

 

[greengeezer]

Women also lost. They are most perplexing because they play good basketball one quarter and fall apart the next.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Led the entire game only to blow it in the last minute. Shit coaching and shit players. Least talented team in the conference. Be lucky to win 12 games. Dan set the program back by staying too long and then absolutely crippled it by demanding Jackson take over. Marshall's athletic department is a dumpster fire. And some of you sit around like this guy:

We didn’t lead the entire game, but I get your point. We are most definitely not the worst (both Ga schools are fighting for that prize), but we are bottom half. As a friend pointed out, there’s no go to guy on the team. Nate going 1-4 from the line late didn’t help. Poorly executed play on the last possession.
Oh well, it’s not like this is new territory for die hard MU basketball fans!

 

[herdfan06]

Maybe A.W. Hamilton will be our next coach.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Comment from a Troy poster on another forum:

Marshall played terrific defense.
The only other times I've seen Troy struggle to get in the paint like that was against Houston and Arkansas. Marshall's biggest issue is they have no perimeter shooters.

Pretty spot on, I think.

I do believe you have to give 🌽 a little grace. He was actually able to get a legit DI
in Dawson, and enough bodies on the roster to field a competitive squad. And it’s not like DD left much in the cupboard!

 

[greengeezer]

It really is a shame that Dan couldn’t continue his early success. It was exciting to have Marshall basketball in the tournament.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

It really is a shame that Dan couldn’t continue his early success. It was exciting to have Marshall basketball in the tournament.

If you recall, DD, with no college coaching experience, was extremely fortunate to have the services of Elmore, Burks, Janzen (shoutout HerdnAtlanta), Penava, the Wake transfer, and then our PG who could steal at a high rate, and finally Kinsey. He also recruited some colossal deadweight. In the end, his luck ran out once Kinsey completed 5(!) seasons of eligibility.

As one who is now on Medicare, I can relate to geezer’s desire for reminiscing (for me, it will always be Tracy’s squad in ‘71-‘72, as well as Huck’s tenure), but this now 25 years into a new century, and we have to accept that we haven’t had but a smidgen of success in that time period. (CIT! CIT! 😂)
Hopefully 🌽 can build a winner. If not, next coach up!
WS
p.s. On the gals side, Ashley Tudor needs many more minutes on the floor than 9!

 

[BleedsGreen33]

It really is a shame that Dan couldn’t continue his early success. It was exciting to have Marshall basketball in the tournament.

Being lazy and stubborn will do that.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Being lazy and stubborn will do that.

C’mon bleeds! The 304……is all we need! 😂

 

[The Real SamC]

DD's "success" was once, from fourth place, the team got on a eight day hot streak. DD "continuing" that would have been that happening again some day. DD was a poor basketball coach and should have been fired long ago. Only a Marshall fan would think making the second round of the tournament, once, something that literally most of the entire Division has done, is "successful".

But that is the past. DD is gone and the AD who hired him is gone. This is a token effort. The NCAA says we have to have a men's basketball team, and CS, cynically, knows that he can have just about anyone coaching any level of players, and go about .500, which is the goal and we will end up one or two games on either side of it. This is a built-for-football league and half of the teams make NO effort at basketball, some because they don't care, and some because they don't have the cash. It is easy to go .500.

And the same 2K or so old people that attend the games will still do so, and the student activity fees will roll in involuntarily, and this makes money on a cash basis.

That is the goal. That is the CS way.

 

[greengeezer]

Well, on the bright side, we won’t be shelling out much NIL money. Haven’t seen a player worth two cents.

 

[ilmherdfan]

Comment from a Troy poster on another forum:

Marshall played terrific defense.
The only other times I've seen Troy struggle to get in the paint like that was against Houston and Arkansas. Marshall's biggest issue is they have no perimeter shooters.

Pretty spot on, I think.

I do believe you have to give 🌽 a little grace. He was actually able to get a legit DI
in Dawson, and enough bodies on the roster to field a competitive squad. And it’s not like DD left much in the cupboard!

We are one of the worst shooting teams in the country (43% FG, 28% 3pt, and 67%). Defense is much better than last year.

I’m willing to give Corny a year or so to see if he can find some shooters.

 

[greengeezer]

I’m willing to give Corny a year or so to see if he can find some shooters.

We can hope. In basketball, it seems like one bad year has stretched into another and then another, and another . . .

 

[MarkyMark75]

The talent level on this team is inferior to last season. Voyles and Crawford were both capable of scoring at will....this year's team doesn't have anyone near that, and we all ew seeing the results.....hopefully corny can build a team with depth and skill.....we shall see. Slay hopefully can be the centerpiece to that structure......

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Least talented team in the conference.

Well, that’s arguable. According to just released NET rankings, we are just below middling:
92. South Alabama
97. Arkansas State
112. Troy
131. James Madison
163. Texas State
204. App State
227. Marshall
282. Coastal Carolina
290. Georgia Southern
298. Southern Miss
300. Georgia State
330. Louisiana
346. Old Dominion
347. ULM

 

[The Real SamC]

Yes. This is how bad a basketball league this is. This league could easily be grabbed by the throat and controlled.

That isn't what the administration wants. They are not trying to win.

 

[MarkyMark75]

Almost every Herd squad we have assembled prior to the SBC move would have ran the table in this league....it baffles me how we have adjusted to this league

 

[greengeezer]

Teams have a tendency to play to the level of their league competition.

 

[ohio herd]

Currently we are 10-8. Not great but it shows me we are capable of doing better. I believe Coach Jackson will do a solid job of bringing some talented players in and we will see results soon.

 

[ilmherdfan]

Played pretty good during this home stretch. Let’s see if they can figure out how to win on the road.

 

[MarkyMark75]

Despite the obvious concerns with this squad, I have complete faith that this team is more than capable of bringing home a SBC title if they can catch fire at conference tourney time. This league isn't strong enough that a conference title isn't ever out of reach

 

[Herd1972]

Been attending Marshall Basketball games since 1964 (except for a 3 year period with Uncle Same from 6/68 to 6/71). Have seen us at our best and at our worst. Even at our worst, we always seemed to have a couple of good players that made the games entertaining (i.e., Tom Langfitt, Bill Francis, Phil Carter). This team is certainly not our best or worst at this point, but hardly a "terrible" team. I do not know as much about basketball as some the folks posting. I do believe having so many new players, playing a significant amount of time, required some growing pains. They are improving and the effort is there on both defense and offense. I am hopeful we will be in the hunt for the SBC Championship by the end of the year.
Coach Jackson is doing a very good job in my humble opinion. He certainly needs some time to recruit. We have 3 good freshmen on this team and have another good freshman joining us next year. Staying optimistic!!

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Been attending Marshall Basketball games since 1964 (except for a 3 year period with Uncle Same from 6/68 to 6/71). Have seen us at our best and at our worst. Even at our worst, we always seemed to have a couple of good players that made the games entertaining (i.e., Tom Langfitt, Bill Francis, Phil Carter). This team is certainly not our best or worst at this point, but hardly a "terrible" team. I do not know as much about basketball as some the folks posting. I do believe having so many new players, playing a significant amount of time, required some growing pains. They are improving and the effort is there on both defense and offense. I am hopeful we will be in the hunt for the SBC Championship by the end of the year.
Coach Jackson is doing a very good job in my humble opinion. He certainly needs some time to recruit. We have 3 good freshmen on this team and have another good freshman joining us next year. Staying optimistic!!

1972 - great post! Sometimes we need some encouraging words around here. Thank you for your service.

 

[muthed]

Despite the obvious concerns with this squad, I have complete faith that this team is more than capable of bringing home a SBC title if they can catch fire at conference tourney time. This league isn't strong enough that a conference title isn't ever out of reach

You mean catching lightening in a bottle for an 8 day stretch? Right, The Real Sam C?

 

[muthed]

Been attending Marshall Basketball games since 1964 (except for a 3 year period with Uncle Same from 6/68 to 6/71). Have seen us at our best and at our worst. Even at our worst, we always seemed to have a couple of good players that made the games entertaining (i.e., Tom Langfitt, Bill Francis, Phil Carter). This team is certainly not our best or worst at this point, but hardly a "terrible" team. I do not know as much about basketball as some the folks posting. I do believe having so many new players, playing a significant amount of time, required some growing pains. They are improving and the effort is there on both defense and offense. I am hopeful we will be in the hunt for the SBC Championship by the end of the year.
Coach Jackson is doing a very good job in my humble opinion. He certainly needs some time to recruit. We have 3 good freshmen on this team and have another good freshman joining us next year. Staying optimistic!!

Do you think those 3 freshmen will still be here next year?

 

[Herd1972]

Do you think those 3 freshmen will still be here next year?

Not sure how anyone can know that. But I hope they are!

 

[greengeezer]

Do you think those 3 freshmen will still be here next year?

Do they even have year designations anymore? Players can transfer every year, some play 5-6 years, others take medical redshirts, a few even play as grad students.