U.S. Military Leaves Ukrainian Army in Shambles

[wvkeeper(HN)]

This article is an unbelievably bad look for the United States.

Ukrainian Troops Trained by the West Stumble in Battle

WASHINGTON — The first several weeks of Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive have not been kind to the Ukrainian troops who were trained and armed by the United States and its allies. Equipped with advanced American weapons and heralded as the vanguard of a major assault, the troops became...

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[ThunderCat98]

I bet their SEI scores are really high though.

 

[SamSwimmer]

"It raises questions about the quality of the training the Ukrainians received from the West and about whether tens of billions of dollars’ worth of weapons, including nearly $44 billion worth from the Biden administration, have been successful in transforming the Ukrainian military into a NATO-standard fighting force."

 

[i am herdman]

Well old hermdan been telling this forum this stuff for months.

 

[extragreen]

Well old hermdan been telling this forum this stuff for months.

You told us this would be over in ONE month. You lying trumptard oath breaker.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

 

[i am herdman]

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Probably needs to happen and would be a monumental defeat for NATO and the USA.

 

[SamSwimmer]

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When the press is openly reporting on the “difficulties” of the counteroffensive, you know it’s bad. The talk is going ‘round US troops might get sent in for support. Seems like a few (duke & Hokies) still support the conflict, would us sending troops in change that support?

 

[i am herdman]

When the press is openly reporting on the “difficulties” of the counteroffensive, you know it’s bad. The talk is going ‘round US troops might get sent in for support. Seems like a few (duke & Hokies) still support the conflict, would us sending troops in change that support?

The Halliburtons of the world will be licking their chops. Rebuild the war torn country and US troops get to provide the protection. Yep.

 

[SamSwimmer]

Probably needs to happen and would be a monumental defeat for NATO and the USA.

NATO & Biden. We wouldn’t be knee deep in this fiasco if it wasn’t for Biden

 

[i am herdman]

NATO & Biden. We wouldn’t be knee deep in this fiasco if it wasn’t for Biden

Just a terrible blunder

 

[alphasig1053]

Probably needs to happen and would be a monumental defeat for NATO and the USA.

You think this conflict makes Russia look more powerful?

 

[i am herdman]

You think this conflict makes Russia look more powerful?

Well, let's say not more powerful but they control about a third of Ukraine now. That includes most access to the ports and shipping access.

So if they walk away with that in some kind of agreement who won? It will also essentially stop Ukraine from ever joining NATO

 

[alphasig1053]

Well, let's say not more powerful but they control about a third of Ukraine now. That includes most access to the ports and shipping access.

So if they walk away with that in some kind of agreement who won? It will also essentially stop Ukraine from ever joining NATO

Finland and Sweden are now or will be in NATO. A lot of the NATO nations have actually boosted their military spending and the alliance is stronger. Russia has 200k or more injured or killed in combat. Also, Russia has fought to a draw with the poorest nation in Europe.

They have gained some land but at a steep price. And, most of that land was already controlled by Russian separatists before the invasion.

 

[SamSwimmer]

You think this conflict makes Russia look more powerful?

Russia hasn't truly let slip the dogs of war. Everyone knew this was going to be a war of attrition that would drag on from day one. If Russia ends up getting what they want, it makes them look as powerful as we all thought from the very beginning. Unfortunately, it's yet another expensive mi$take we continue to make with our foreign policy.

 

[SamSwimmer]

Also, Russia has fought to a draw with the poorest nation in Europe.

If that nation wasn't receiving bajillions in money & weapons, this would have been over long, long ago.

 

[alphasig1053]

Russia hasn't truly let slip the dogs of war. Everyone knew this was going to be a war of attrition that would drag on from day one. If Russia ends up getting what they want, it makes them look as powerful as we all thought from the very beginning. Unfortunately, it's yet another expensive mi$take we continue to make with our foreign policy.

Nobody thought this was going to play out like it has. Russia was thought to have complete control in a matter of weeks. They have shown serious military problems in Ukraine and Syria. I don't see how anyone could say this honestly makes Russia appear to be a powerful military nation.

 

[i am herdman]

Finland and Sweden are now or will be in NATO. A lot of the NATO nations have actually boosted their military spending and the alliance is stronger. Russia has 200k or more injured or killed in combat. Also, Russia has fought to a draw with the poorest nation in Europe.

They have gained some land but at a steep price. And, most of that land was already controlled by Russian separatists before the invasion.

Some of the NATO nations have floundered as well. And, they have for decades. Let's all just be honest, we are conducting a proxy war in Ukraine and the idea of putting Ukraine into NATO just never made sense. Here we are.

 

[i am herdman]

Nobody thought this was going to play out like it has. Russia was thought to have complete control in a matter of weeks. They have shown serious military problems in Ukraine and Syria. I don't see how anyone could say this honestly makes Russia appear to be a powerful military nation.

They are getting a lot of want. Control of the southern part of Ukraine and the ports. Yes, at a heavy cost, but so has Ukraine. In addition, the admission of Ukraine to NATO is nearly dead at this point.

 

[extragreen]

Some of the NATO nations have floundered as well. And, they have for decades. Let's all just be honest, we are conducting a proxy war in Ukraine and the idea of putting Ukraine into NATO just never made sense. Here we are.

If Biden had let Russia take Ukraine without trying to help, you would have simply talked out the other side of your lying mouth and called him weak and a Putin enabler. Shut up your whining.

 

[Rock98Dog]

If Biden had let Russia take Ukraine without trying to help, you would have simply talked out the other side of your lying mouth and called him weak and a Putin enabler. Shut up your whining.

You mean if he would have done exactly like Obama? Notice Russia didn’t do nuttin’ when the Magnificent Orange One was in charge. Putin preys on weak men.

 

[extragreen]

You mean if he would have done exactly like Obama AND BUSH? Notice Russia didn’t do nuttin’ when the Magnificent Orange One was in charge. Putin preys on weak men.

You're an idiot. Notice Russia is having a tough go at it, unlike under Obama and Bush. Hopefully you can do a meet and greet with your orange jesus when he's in prison.

 

[i am herdman]

You're an idiot. Notice Russia is having a tough go at it, unlike under Obama and Bush. Hopefully you can do a meet and greet with your orange jesus when he's in prison.

Gee under Obama and Mush Brain they only have taken 30 percent of the country. Moron

 

[extragreen]

Gee under Obama and Mush Brain they only have taken 30 percent of the country. Moron

This entire thing started with George W.easel Bush when nothing was done about russia's invasion in Georgia. Stupid lying trumptard oath breaker.