U.S. spy agencies detail Russia’s role in boosting Trump

[extragreen]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-spy-agencies-detail-russias-role-in-boosting-trump-233520033.html

"The report also indicates there was little dissent among the intelligence agencies about the findings. It says the entire intelligence community has “high confidence” that Putin ordered the influence and hacking campaign to “undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process” and “denigrate” Clinton. On another major finding — that Putin and the Russian government intended to boost Trump — the CIA and FBI have “high confidence” in that conclusion. The National Security Agency has “moderate confidence” in that judgment."

"One of the more revealing sections of the report deals with RT, the Russian worldwide television network, which regularly airs programming denigrating the United States, including allegations that American elections are rigged and that the United States is a “surveillance state.” The Kremlin has invested $190 million a year in RT programming and now, according to its website, reaches more than 550 million people. The report notes that RT has “actively collaborated” with WikiLeaks; its editor-in-chief visited Assange at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London in August 2013 and reached an agreement to provide access to “new leaks of secret information.”"

 

[andy4theherd]

sooooooo nothing confirming anything released was false?


gottcha

 

[herdfan429]

From same report there's no evidence Russia influenced vote totals or compromised voting machines.

I will argue that Hillary's secret server hurt her more than podesta emails

 

[extragreen]

sooooooo nothing confirming anything released was false?


gottcha

I understand why you really don't want to confront the gist of the russian interference. But let me state it anyway. Your Cheetos in Chief was helped by Russian propaganda in his campaign by a former KGB guy from Russia.

 

[Walden Pond]

Unless the Russians gave out new Nikes to thugs who stayed home on Election Day, this is a big waste of time.

 

[extragreen]

From same report there's no evidence Russia influenced vote totals

I see, so if Russia had spent $190 million to reach voters with the intent to get hillary elected, you'd think no vote totals were influenced. Sorry, you can say what you want, but no one including yourself believes that.

 

[herdfan429]

I see, so if Russia had spent $190 million to reach voters with the intent to get hillary elected, you'd think no vote totals were influenced. Sorry, you can say what you want, but no one including yourself believes that.

There is no evidence Russia effected vote totals. It's in the report so the intelligence community believes it

 

[herdfan429]

Also when you look at timing of releases and polls Hillary was up big. Her favorabity rating went up. She won the popular vote so please tell me how they effected voting

 

[extragreen]

There is no evidence Russia effected vote totals. It's in the report so the intelligence community believes it

There's no evidence it didn't.

Again...
I see, so if Russia had spent $190 million to reach voters with the intent to get hillary elected, you'd think no vote totals were influenced. Sorry, you can say what you want, but no one including yourself believes that.

 

[i am herdman]

Hillary lost. Get over it.

 

[extragreen]

Hillary lost. Get over it.

In the same way you cons "got over it" the last 8 years. Get used to it. And I'll have MUCH more fodder from Cheetos to work with.

 

[GeauxHerd]

I see, so if Russia had spent $190 million to reach voters with the intent to get hillary elected, you'd think no vote totals were influenced. Sorry, you can say what you want, but no one including yourself believes that.

I had Russians handing out trump literature door to door which helped secure my vote

 

[extragreen]

I had Russians handing out trump literature door to door which helped secure my vote

You're one of those who believed the Russian propaganda. If this situation were reversed and the Russians were running a propaganda campaign for Hillary and against trump, and Hillary won and the said "we need to get past it", you cons would have been screaming treason.

 

[Walter Brennaneer]

You're one of those who believed the Russian propaganda. If this situation were reversed and the Russians were running a propaganda campaign for Hillary and against trump, and Hillary won and the said "we need to get past it", you cons would have been screaming treason.

But, it's not, she got smashed and will be sitting on her ass complaining like you.

 

[herdfan429]

You're one of those who believed the Russian propaganda. If this situation were reversed and the Russians were running a propaganda campaign for Hillary and against trump, and Hillary won and the said "we need to get past it", you cons would have been screaming treason.

What specifically did Russia release in support of trump? That crap on RT, a station no one gets outside of liberal havens of NYC la and D.C.

 

[extragreen]

What specifically did Russia release in support of trump? That crap on RT, a station no one gets outside of liberal havens of NYC la and D.C.

RT has 8 million weekly viewers in the U S. RT's websites and YouTube channels were visited 49 million times in November 2015, with users from the US providing the largest share. So how about stopping making stuff up.

 

[andy4theherd]

RT has 8 million weekly viewers in the U S. RT's websites and YouTube channels were visited 49 million times in November 2015, with users from the US providing the largest share. So how about stopping making stuff up.

source and link confirming those visitors carried the vote in their respective states?

or even easier, source and link showing the break down by state of the viewers?

 

[herdfan429]

RT has 8 million weekly viewers in the U S. RT's websites and YouTube channels were visited 49 million times in November 2015, with users from the US providing the largest share. So how about stopping making stuff up.

You got those number from RT which you have stated is nothi but the propaganda arm of Putin. So is RT credible or not? Or only when it suits you

 

[Walden Pond]

Well, this seals it for me. Hillary won.

And so did I, because I'll take a cold, dark, 10 degree January evening over a bright 91 degree July one anyday.

 

[extragreen]

You got those number from RT which you have stated is nothi but the propaganda arm of Putin. So is RT credible or not? Or only when it suits you

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt...36188e0278b457f/amp?client=ms-android-verizon

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Jesus Christ. Some of you are stupid, or vastly uninformed.

Putin has had a VERY personal beef with Hillary. He blames her for anti-government marches against his rule. Well no shit, that is kind of what we do. Second, there are rumors of a much more personal animosity between the two. Anyone that follows foreign relations would know this. Business is business, but he really personally thinks she is a cvnt, some kind of personal slight occurred at sometime, and the rumor is the feeling is mutual. Putin was actually very open to a "reset" with Obama, but his dirty pool in Ukraine screwed that up. Now, there are two ways of looking at that. One is you are a neocon and think democracy should fly everywhere and blah blah blah. In that case you should actually SUPPORT Obama's sanctions. That's what I don't get about Trump and some of you. You fly that flag. The second way of thinking is pure realism and you acknowledge that was Russian land to begin with and fvck those Ukrainian freedom people, it's Russian land. YOU CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE your ideology based on your American political beliefs. It is one or the other. Because if not you have a lot of hypocrisy, especially in the Middle East.

I am a Realist. I have always been. I have zero issue with Putin playing Peter the Great. I do have an issue with him fvcking our elections. But you all need to keep that same attitude with the Towellheads if that is how you think you feel...and that is VERY against GOP policy in that part of that word.

 

[houston_herd_fan]

If Putin and the russians did the hacks , that is wrong. Every advanced countries do this kind of stuff. So crying wolf when you try the same stuff is akin to being the whinning kid who takes his ball home when he does not get his way. The DNC and Hilary, Podesta and others that have knowledge of what computer stuff that goes on should have known better. I saw not a soul complaining that the hacked emails were wrong in the content. The content was the problem for Hilary. She and all you liberals who support her need to realize that and deal with it. As I say to everyone in similar situations(including myself when I screw up), it is what it is.

 

[Walden Pond]

I don't really care and neither do most people. It's about money and which party/politician will allow me to keep more of it. I'd vote for queers, blacks and foreigners if they believed in the idea of every man for himself instead of gimme gimme gimme.

 

[HerdFan76]

Hillary and Trump are both so polarizing I really don't think the leaks changed any ones vote. I'd say a very small population percentage really liked their candidate, and most held their nose and voted for the one they thought was less evil.

 

[extragreen]

I'll say it again, you cons would be screaming like banshees if the shoe was on the other foot. It's bad enough when you "patriots" tell us to get over it, but it's atrocious when the Cheetos in Chief says that when Russians attempt to undermine American elections and attempt to help determine who becomes president. Bunch of trumpkins attempting to hide behind the curtain and say there's no evidence that it changed the election results is a pitiful thing for most Americans to watch, even some republicans.

 

[HerdFan76]

Cons warned about Russia years ago and Dems laughed it off. You own this.

 

[GeauxHerd]

You're one of those who believed the Russian propaganda. If this situation were reversed and the Russians were running a propaganda campaign for Hillary and against trump, and Hillary won and the said "we need to get past it", you cons would have been screaming treason.

The podesta emails were propoganda? I was going to vote against Hillary Clinton the day she announced. Well before private servers and wikileaks emails.

 

[extragreen]

Cons warned about Russia years ago and Dems laughed it off. You own this.

trump voters own the Cheetos in Chief and his putin crush.

 

[extragreen]

The podesta emails were propoganda? I was going to vote against Hillary Clinton the day she announced. Well before private servers and wikileaks emails.

Some cons are smarter than you, they waited to believe the russian propaganda.

 

[big_country90]

Question for the entire board. Were you or anybody you know influenced by anything or anybody besides your own personal political beliefs?

This whole thing is hogwash.

 

[extragreen]

Question for the entire board. Were you or anybody you know influenced by anything or anybody besides your own personal political beliefs?

This whole thing is hogwash.

So, you're OK with Iran doing the same interfering with the election that Russia did? It's hogwash to you because your candidate won. You're a puppet. Most Republicans are condemning what Russia did. And to those who are gleeful about it, you're a political hack. You're not a Republican. You're not a patriot. If this is not about us, then I'll never know what will be about us. Because when one party is compromised, all of us are compromised.

 

[HerdFan76]

It's hogwash to you because your candidate won.

Apparently it's hogwash to the current administration who was happy to kick the can down the road because they believed Hillary would win. So, according to you, Obama and anyone in his staff who had knowledge of this or the power to do something about it are not patriots, they are puppets and political hacks.

 

[extragreen]

Apparently it's hogwash to the current administration who was happy to kick the can down the road because they believed Hillary would win. So, according to you, Obama and anyone in his staff who had knowledge of this or the power to do something about it are not patriots, they are puppets and political hacks.

They weren't kicking the can down the road just for the heck of it. Your Cheetos in Chief had already ignorantly claimed that the election was rigged against him, and any statement made by the obama administration about russian hacking would have been met by your ilk with "the democrats are lying about the russian hacking". Obama took the high road, something Cheetos and you have never walked.

 

[herdfan429]

Extra were you ok with us giving money to Israeli organizations that used said money to influence their elections?

 

[HerdFan76]

Obama didn't take the high road, he ignored intel and failed to act against a threat to our country. Par for the course with him.

 

[extragreen]

Extra were you ok with us giving money to Israeli organizations that used said money to influence their elections?

Are the U S and Israel allies?
Are the U S and Russia allies?

 

[extragreen]

Obama didn't take the high road, he ignored intel and failed to act against a threat to our country. Par for the course with him.

White House officials gathered key lawmakers—leadership from the House and Senate, plus the top Democrats and Republicans from both houses’ intelligence and homeland security committees—to ask for a bipartisan condemnation of Russia’s meddling. The effort was stymied by several Republicans who weren’t willing to cooperate

 

[andy4theherd]

Russia spent $160 mill to "influence" our election.

Killary spent $1.4 BILLION to "influence" our election...

 

[andy4theherd]

if we count the money Uranium One "donated" to the Clinton Foundation it kind of evens out which side the Russians took...

 

[HerdFan76]

The admin didn't react because they thought Hillary would win. Fact.

Anyway, that's not what BC asked. He questioned if the leaks changed anyones vote. We know it didn't change yours even after your own party burned your original candidate. You happily jumped on the Hillary train because you toe that Democrat line like it's you damn job.