U.S. spy agencies detail Russia’s role in boosting Trump

[extragreen]

"If this... then that would've happened."

once again the basis for your entire defence is hypotheticals.

No, no hypotheticals. It's a fact that russia attempted to influence the election and to do so in favor of Cheetos. It is a fact that many cons attempt to downplay the ramifications of this, and they do so because their guy won and they don't want that delegitimized at all costs. Those "many cons" include you and, so far, every con on this board. Your simple thought process is: Our guy won, we'll give russia a mulligan.

 

[herdfan429]

Really? Want to explain how that is, and why the guy you voted for a few years ago stated that Russia was the United States number one geopolitical foe?

Why did your guy say the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back? Thank good for the Russian reset button

 

[extragreen]

Why did your guy say the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back? Thank good for the Russian reset button

According to a con on this board, russia is our ally. According to many cons on this board, our biggest foe is ISIS, and the others consider it to be Iran. The real russian reset is Cheetos french kissing putin. Cheetos has denigrated just about everyone, including all his primary opponents, John McCain, mexicans, muslims, china, the media, beauty contestants, women in general, everyone who voted for clinton, the gop, and rnc. Everyone except God (publically)and putin. But putin is a great leader, very smart, he's doing a great job in rebuilding the image of Russia, I respect Putin and Russians, will he become my new best friend?, I think I'd get along very well with Vladimir Putin, It is always a great honor to be so nicely complimented by a man (putin) so highly respected within his own country and beyond, "Why do I have to get tough on Putin? I don't know anything other than that he doesn't respect our country,"

 

[HerdFan76]

I'm pretty sure it was the Dems who put party over country when they kicked the can expecting Clinton to win. It's the Dems who were ready to give the mulligan. That was the decision of the current administration. Fact.

 

[extragreen]

I'm pretty sure it was the Dems who put party over country when they kicked the can expecting Clinton to win. It's the Dems who were ready to give the mulligan. That was the decision of the current administration. Fact.

It's already been explained to you at least twice why the Dems didn't act sooner, and the reason was republicans put party over country. Fact.

 

[HerdFan76]

According to a con on this board, russia is our ally.

BWHAHHAAAAH

The country's top 4 Democrats don't agree:

In response, Obama mocked Romney’s statement: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because…the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Clinton called Romney “somewhat dated” and said he was “looking backwards.” She added, “In many of the areas where we are working to solve problems, Russia has been an ally.”

Kerry suggested Romney was getting his foreign policy advice from a movie. “Mitt Romney talks like he’s only seen Russia by watching ‘Rocky IV’,” Kerry said.

Vice President Joe Biden piled on as well. “Romney acts like he thinks the Cold War’s still on, Russia is still our major adversary. I don’t know where he’s been,” Biden said in a 2012 interview with CBS.

 

[HerdFan76]

It's already been explained to you at least twice why the Dems didn't act sooner, and the reason was republicans put party over country. Fact.

Dems didn't act because they were willing to give a mulligan if Clinton won. There's no denying that, it's straight out of their mouths. You don't have to except it but you'll be living in fantasy land.

 

[andy4theherd]

BWHAHHAAAAH

The country's top 4 Democrats don't agree:

In response, Obama mocked Romney’s statement: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because…the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Clinton called Romney “somewhat dated” and said he was “looking backwards.” She added, “In many of the areas where we are working to solve problems, Russia has been an ally.”

Kerry suggested Romney was getting his foreign policy advice from a movie. “Mitt Romney talks like he’s only seen Russia by watching ‘Rocky IV’,” Kerry said.

Vice President Joe Biden piled on as well. “Romney acts like he thinks the Cold War’s still on, Russia is still our major adversary. I don’t know where he’s been,” Biden said in a 2012 interview with CBS.

 

[andy4theherd]

No, no hypotheticals. It's a fact that russia attempted to influence the election and to do so in favor of Cheetos. It is a fact that many cons attempt to downplay the ramifications of this, and they do so because their guy won and they don't want that delegitimized at all costs. Those "many cons" include you and, so far, every con on this board. Your simple thought process is: Our guy won, we'll give russia a mulligan.

it IS a hypothetical when you argue Obama didn't do this or that because of what might have happened...

after Russia hacked and stole 21 million governement employee's information Obama should have done something. well, something other than one of his famous "lines in the sand". had he peckered up to Putin years ago, you guys would be blaming global warming for Clinton's loss...

 

[extragreen]

BWHAHHAAAAH

The country's top 4 Democrats don't agree:

In response, Obama mocked Romney’s statement: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because…the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

Clinton called Romney “somewhat dated” and said he was “looking backwards.” She added, “In many of the areas where we are working to solve problems, Russia has been an ally.”

Kerry suggested Romney was getting his foreign policy advice from a movie. “Mitt Romney talks like he’s only seen Russia by watching ‘Rocky IV’,” Kerry said.

Vice President Joe Biden piled on as well. “Romney acts like he thinks the Cold War’s still on, Russia is still our major adversary. I don’t know where he’s been,” Biden said in a 2012 interview with CBS.

About 4 months later.......

"Romney: "There's no question but that in terms of geopolitics -- I’m talking about votes at the United Nations and actions of a geopolitical nature -- Russia is the No. 1 adversary in that regard. That doesn't make them an enemy. It doesn’t make them a combatant. They don't represent the No. 1 national security threat. The No. 1 national security threat, of course, to our nation is a nuclear Iran."

 

[extragreen]

it IS a hypothetical when you argue Obama didn't do this or that because of what might have happened...

No. I'm telling you the conundrum that obama faced. You just refuse to accept it, or possibly are unable to understand that not every person reacts to situations off the cuff.

 

[Walden Pond]

Cheetos, I prefer the crunchy. Can't have 'em though. They'd break my teeth. No more pretzels either. No chewing ice. Still eat potato chips though.

I'd rather have Russians living next door than towelheads and thugs, but of course nobody at all would be ideal.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

We conduct propaganda campaigns all the time in other countries.

I've heard other Trump apologists used this same line, and it's dumb as hell. We routinely depose heads of state of other nations, often by violent means. So you think it would be cool if the Russians or Chinks assassinated POTUS? That's awfully close to the "chickens coming home to roost" stuff you and others were up in arms about eight years ago.

 

[andy4theherd]

No. I'm telling you the conundrum that obama faced. You just refuse to accept it, or possibly are unable to understand that not every person reacts to situations off the cuff.

no, you are speculating...

 

[extragreen]

no, you are speculating...

I already told you no hypotheticals.

"On Friday, the Obama administration turned a bright spotlight onto the Russian government’s attempts to influence America’s presidential election. The White House announced that the president had ordered the intelligence community to perform a “full review” of election-related hacking, kicking off a sweeping investigation that officials say should be complete before President Obama’s second term ends in less than six weeks. That evening, administration officials leaked the results of a secret CIA investigation into Russia’s motives for launching election-related cyberattacks to The Washington Post. The CIA had concluded that Russia “intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency.”

Members of Congress who called on the White House to release more information about Russian involvement in the 2016 election—and who repeatedly hinted that the administration hadn’t publicized everything it knows on the issue—were vindicated by the revelations. But the news came too late to make a difference in the election.

The CIA only shared its latest findings with top senators last week, the Post reported, but it’s not clear when the agency made the determination. In an interview with MSNBC on Saturday, however, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid—who is known for making bold accusations—said FBI Director Jim Comey has known about Russia’s ambitions “for a long time,” but didn’t release that information.

If that’s true, why didn’t the Obama administration push to release it earlier?

For one, the White House was probably afraid of looking like it was tipping the scale in Hillary Clinton’s favor, especially in an election that her opponent repeatedly described as rigged. Though Obama stumped for Clinton around the country, the administration didn’t want to open him up to attacks that he unfairly used intelligence to undermine Trump’s campaign, the Post reported.

Instead, top White House officials gathered key lawmakers—leadership from the House and Senate, plus the top Democrats and Republicans from both houses’ intelligence and homeland security committees—to ask for a bipartisan condemnation of Russia’s meddling. The effort was stymied by several Republicans who weren’t willing to cooperate, including, reportedly, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. (On Sunday morning, a bipartisan statement condemning the hacks came from incoming Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Jack Reed, a Democrat, and Republicans John McCain and Lindsey"

https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...out-russias-influence-on-the-election/510242/

 

[herdfan429]

Extra he sent Russian diplomats home while some in the GOP didn't want to cooperate so that's a load of garbage and you know it. Deflection at its best

 

[extragreen]

Extra he sent Russian diplomats home while some in the GOP didn't want to cooperate so that's a load of garbage and you know it. Deflection at its best

That's after the election process, you know, the election he didn't want to seem to interfere with. You're reaching.

 

[herdfan429]

That's after the election process, you know, the election he didn't want to seem to interfere with. You're reaching.

If he honestly thought Russia was "hacking" the election the. He should have some something prior. Not having republican approval hasn't stopped him before

 

[HerdFan76]

He warned Putin in September, told him to knock it off.

 

[extragreen]

If he honestly thought Russia was "hacking" the election the. He should have some something prior. Not having republican approval hasn't stopped him before

I've explained this at least 3 times. You still ignore the situation. If you were honest about it, which you won't be, you'd realize he was putting country before party. If he had come out with the hacking earlier, cons like you would have accused him of party politics. Your blinders are very effective.

 

[andy4theherd]

"that's reaching"

coming from Mr. Strawman-speculating-hypothetical-man

bwahahahahahahahahaha (said in "Greed")

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Extra he sent Russian diplomats home

Yeah, those were diplomats in name only lol.

 

[herdfan429]

I've explained this at least 3 times. You still ignore the situation. If you were honest about it, which you won't be, you'd realize he was putting country before party. If he had come out with the hacking earlier, cons like you would have accused him of party politics. Your blinders are very effective.

Country before party means maintains election integrity. If he truly thought the integrity of the election was in jeopardy he should have come out with info and done something period. He thought Hillary would win, just like the Russians did, and decided to let things slide until she lost

 

[extragreen]

Country before party means maintains election integrity. If he truly thought the integrity of the election was in jeopardy he should have come out with info and done something period. He thought Hillary would win, just like the Russians did, and decided to let things slide until she lost

And if he did, you and the rest of the cons would have had a melt down. Cheetos would have claimed it was part of the election rigging by democrats. You'd have believed the lying Cheetos, puff.

 

[extragreen]

"that's reaching"

coming from Mr. Strawman-speculating-hypothetical-man

bwahahahahahahahahaha (said in "Greed")

You get that from breitbart or WND?

 

[sdiamond52]

America likes Cheetos. yum yum.

Better than the dogshit we have been served the last 8 years.

 

[herdfan429]

And if he did, you and the rest of the cons would have had a melt down. Cheetos would have claimed it was part of the election rigging by democrats. You'd have believed the lying Cheetos, puff.

Hell play hard ball since your side thought comey was playing politics

 

[andy4theherd]

And if he did, you and the rest of the cons would have had a melt down. Cheetos would have claimed it was part of the election rigging by democrats. You'd have believed the lying Cheetos, puff.

speculate, hypotheticalman... speculate...

 

[extragreen]

America likes Cheetos. yum yum.

Better than the dogshit we have been served the last 8 years.

You will be yearning for the last 8 years before the next 4 are over.

 

[andy4theherd]

You get that from breitbart or WND?

from the guy that posted an article from Russia Today as evidence showing how many US viewers watch RT News...

 

[extragreen]

speculate, hypotheticalman... speculate...

Still zero hypotheticals. You and your ilk have proven it as fact. You were in a melt down from the time Cheetos claimed (with zero evidence) the election was rigged in favor of the dems.

 

[extragreen]

from the guy that posted an article from Russia Today as evidence showing how many US viewers watch RT News...

It was Reuters.

 

[andy4theherd]

no... it was RT

 

[andy4theherd]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt...36188e0278b457f/amp?client=ms-android-verizon

greed caught lying once again...

i'm sure you haven't responded to my previous post as you are busy trying to figure out how to edit a post without "edited" appearing...

 

[HerdFan76]

DWS was fired because ran a fair and impartial primary election. Or something.

 

[extragreen]

greed caught lying once again...

i'm sure you haven't responded to my previous post as you are busy trying to figure out how to edit a post without "edited" appearing...

It was data from a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

And if he did, you and the rest of the cons would have had a melt down. Cheetos would have claimed it was part of the election rigging by democrats. You'd have believed the lying Cheetos, puff.

I actually agree with this. Trump would have went apeshit...well, more apeshit than usual.

 

[andy4theherd]

It was data from a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

more lies

the poll was conducted by RT using IPSOS "at the request of RT". there is no link to the scientific survey, only a quote from Margarita Simonyan (RT’s Editor-in-Chief) claiming the figures. there is no mention of Reuters anywhere. in fact, if you search an actual TV ratings firm (Nielson) or any other source for US TV ratings you won't find anything about RT having 8 million US viewers per week. if they did, that would rate higher than every network but CBS...

bullshit

 

[extragreen]

more lies

the poll was conducted by RT using IPSOS "at the request of RT". there is no link to the scientific survey, only a quote from Margarita Simonyan (RT’s Editor-in-Chief) claiming the figures. there is no mention of Reuters anywhere. in fact, if you search an actual TV ratings firm (Nielson) or any other source for US TV ratings you won't find anything about RT having 8 million US viewers per week. if they did, that would rate higher than every network but CBS...

bullshit

Up until now i thought IPSOS was part of Reuters. So the part about Reuters is wrong. But the numbers are from IPSOS. I cannot find the site I got this information from: "RT has 8 million weekly viewers in the U S. RT's websites and YouTube channels were visited 49 million times in November 2015, with users from the US providing the largest share."

 

[herdfan429]

Up until now i thought IPSOS was part of Reuters. So the part about Reuters is wrong. But the numbers are from IPSOS. I cannot find the site I got this information from: "RT has 8 million weekly viewers in the U S. RT's websites and YouTube channels were visited 49 million times in November 2015, with users from the US providing the largest share."

You googled it and the first source is from RT. I read the same article I was just smart enough to know where it came from and not buy into their propaganda