Cruz already has precinct captains and statewide GOTV projects in MS, LA, TN, AL, etc... he ain't the same kind of candidate as Huckster and Santo.
Well it is over. Hillary will take it all
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Cruz already has precinct captains and statewide GOTV projects in MS, LA, TN, AL, etc... he ain't the same kind of candidate as Huckster and Santo.
Sanders will be done on March 1. It is over for him.
The Democrats will rally around Hillary and they will play the victim, sexist, race card, and it is her turn card. Then, she will start promising free stuff and raising taxes in rich people.
Meanwhile the Republicans will trudge through 12 guys in the race or maybe still 8 or 10. Beating the hell out of each other and giving the wench a 3 or 4 month head start.
She is going to promise the blacks and Mexicans so much stuff even the hispanic replubicans with a black vp won't stand a chance. All these so called Sanders supporters are really closet Hillary fans.
The Democrats will rally around Hillary and they will play the victim, sexist, race card, and it is her turn card. Then, she will start promising free stuff and raising taxes in rich people.
Meanwhile the Republicans will trudge through 12 guys in the race or maybe still 8 or 10. Beating the hell out of each other and giving the wench a 3 or 4 month head start.
She is going to promise the blacks and Mexicans so much stuff even the hispanic replubicans with a black vp won't stand a chance. All these so called Sanders supporters are really closet Hillary fans.
Businesses that make huge profits and pay no income tax, people who profit exorbitantly from from healthcare, those who benefit from charging too much interest on student loans, those who buy elections (for either side of the aisle), etc.
So when Hillary wins are you going to vote for her? Or will you stand on your moral fabric and stay home.
That is what conservatives do. They get mad a Romney or McCain and stay home out of protest.
Democrats plan on voting for Hillary and they have all along. They would rather win than lose. The ding dong Republicans have not learned that yet. Bernie is done for. It is all over in 3 or 4 weeks.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I certainly will vote for her. I would vote for her over any republican candidate in your lifetime. But Bernie has my vote in the primary and whoever wins after that. I think you are underestimating Bernie. We'll see how it works out.
Are they squatters as you call them. George spent 6 mil in Iowa right before caucuses for Hilary
how did he spend $6m right before the caucuses for clinton?
he gave a pro-clinton super pac $6m in the second half of 2015, but even with that clinton's super pac was a fraction of jeb's and was similar to cruz's who was raising money as the chaser, not the front-runner.
i'm not speaking for extra, but to assume any politician isn't bought and paid for in our system today would be foolish. bernie doesn't have a super pac, but he's managed to raise $75.1m through his campaign, which is an insane amount of money.
Never said he was. Only that Iowa is what it is. Hell, Pat Robertson bested Bush 1 there in 88, and even my mother thinks Pat Robertson is full of shit.
If Bernie is elected inam quitting my job a d heading to the house.
Not giving that commie all my money
Not giving that commie all my money
Yes you WILL give him all your money. And you will address him as comrade Sanders.
I never said all politicians weren't bought and paid for. I was questioning extra about his squatters and if he applied his definition equally, especially since the kochs get pounded but George Soros and tom steyer get free passes
i think the difference is the koch brothers act as active fundraisers and give hundreds of millions to support their causes, whereas soros and steyer while giving a few million here or there, actually pale in comparison. not that what soros and steyer are doing is right, they're just doing it on a significantly smaller scale than the koch brothers.
As long as I can have my slop and floor, I'll keep working this same job as long as they'll let me.
I realize 90 some percent of everybody else is not like me and this thing won't work, but oh well. I don't make changes until it's painful not to.
But from here, the money for political influence gets a little more shady. From 2001 to 2010, the Koch brothers invested $1.5 million in other political groups, called 527 organizations, compared to Soros’ whopping $32.5 million.
The proliferation and expanded influence of 527s was made possible by the problematic McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform of 2002, so named because of the tax code, Section 527, that they fall under. As described by Benjamin Dangl, the groups “operate as shadow political campaigns working indirectly for or against a particular candidate.” Once contributed funds get to these groups, they can go anywhere; and the audit trail is virtually non-existent. Some are run totally above board and are very straightforward in their objectives. Many others are not. As Dangl says, “Prominent think tanks and campaign finance reform lobbyists say 527s are ‘illegal loopholes’ that enable the privatization of political campaigns.”
http://www.westernjournalism.com/koch-brothers-george-soros-fear/
The proliferation and expanded influence of 527s was made possible by the problematic McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform of 2002, so named because of the tax code, Section 527, that they fall under. As described by Benjamin Dangl, the groups “operate as shadow political campaigns working indirectly for or against a particular candidate.” Once contributed funds get to these groups, they can go anywhere; and the audit trail is virtually non-existent. Some are run totally above board and are very straightforward in their objectives. Many others are not. As Dangl says, “Prominent think tanks and campaign finance reform lobbyists say 527s are ‘illegal loopholes’ that enable the privatization of political campaigns.”
http://www.westernjournalism.com/koch-brothers-george-soros-fear/
like i said, the koch brothers are active fundraisers, raising hundreds of millions of dollars to push their agenda, whereas people like soros, steyer, and other big money liberal and conservative people are pumping small amounts compared to the koch's spending and fundraising into super pacs to help their candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/us/politics/122-million-in-2012-spending-by-koch-group.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a44654-a513-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html
$32.5m over 9 years, or $122m in one year, or $1b in one year. yeah, i think my point stands.
It's over anyway. Hillary will take it all.
That's the point. And EG will act like Bernie never existed after the SEC primaries. Why would anybody support him anyway when Hillary's exactly the same thing?
That's the point. And EG will act like Bernie never existed after the SEC primaries. Why would anybody support him anyway when Hillary's exactly the same thing?
Again.
Probably discussing semantics at this point. Nevertheless, I think differentiation needs to be pointed out. Not exactly accurate on what is being insinuated. From your second linked article. Provides a little better context as to what and where it is actually being spent. The $1b figure was intentionally misleading by the Post (not a surprise).
"Correction: A headline on an earlier version of this story incorrectly suggested that the money would all be spent on the 2016 elections.The $889 million budget includes financing not just for politically active groups, but also for free-market think tanks, foundations and universities. It has been corrected."
IMO, the important thing to remember is the Kochs do most of their lobbying and fundraising out in the open. Nothing illegal with fundraising or contributing to organizations whose financial books are open to the public. Sheldon Adelson was by far the biggest giver to Super PACS in 2012. The dark money giving (PACS)....which Soros helped to pioneer, are the most mysterious and have the most room for unscrupulous activity. Soros slowing down of such activity over the last couple of elections has much to do with his age and his gradual disconnection from the fund/investment companies he helped to create.
Probably discussing semantics at this point. Nevertheless, I think differentiation needs to be pointed out. Not exactly accurate on what is being insinuated. From your second linked article. Provides a little better context as to what and where it is actually being spent. The $1b figure was intentionally misleading by the Post (not a surprise).
"Correction: A headline on an earlier version of this story incorrectly suggested that the money would all be spent on the 2016 elections.The $889 million budget includes financing not just for politically active groups, but also for free-market think tanks, foundations and universities. It has been corrected."
IMO, the important thing to remember is the Kochs do most of their lobbying and fundraising out in the open. Nothing illegal with fundraising or contributing to organizations whose financial books are open to the public. Sheldon Adelson was by far the biggest giver to Super PACS in 2012. The dark money giving (PACS)....which Soros helped to pioneer, are the most mysterious and have the most room for unscrupulous activity. Soros slowing down of such activity over the last couple of elections has much to do with his age and his gradual disconnection from the fund/investment companies he helped to create.
Trump wasted his time, and he knows it now. Well, they can't say he didn't try. You get old and wise, be a big winner in life and people want to vote for a sure loser like Cruz instead.
Yep, you just can't lead idiot horses to the water.
Oh well. He'll keep swimming in gold and I'll keep going up to that giant corn field in Wyandot County to sit out in it basking in the glory of a loud car radio, cooler of Big Ks and nobody as far as my eyes can see.
Yep, you just can't lead idiot horses to the water.
Oh well. He'll keep swimming in gold and I'll keep going up to that giant corn field in Wyandot County to sit out in it basking in the glory of a loud car radio, cooler of Big Ks and nobody as far as my eyes can see.
She won't.
If she did, Biden would just get it then. When the cameras aren't rolling, NBC is laughing their asses off at people who believe Sanders has a chance in hell.
If she did, Biden would just get it then. When the cameras aren't rolling, NBC is laughing their asses off at people who believe Sanders has a chance in hell.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I'll vote for her. But I really, really want Sanders. I don't know how much of what he wants he can get done, but you don't get any of it without trying. Trump supporters should be exiled to cornfields and forced to wear white burqas with pointy white hats.
How does force fit into the Bernie style regime?
Force requires exertion. Who's going to exert physical effort when you can do just as well by not? Hell, that's why I went to college. Bernie's system works OK for me. I push pencils and live in a hovel. That's what I would do whether it paid $100 an hour or $3 an hour.
But I'm nothing like anybody else. Oddball who is OK with working for money just to look at. Most everybody else wants it to keep an elaborate lifestyle. Once that's not possible, they'll go home.
Force requires exertion. Who's going to exert physical effort when you can do just as well by not? Hell, that's why I went to college. Bernie's system works OK for me. I push pencils and live in a hovel. That's what I would do whether it paid $100 an hour or $3 an hour.
But I'm nothing like anybody else. Oddball who is OK with working for money just to look at. Most everybody else wants it to keep an elaborate lifestyle. Once that's not possible, they'll go home.
Who is going to do that to them? All the hippies and freaks who support Bernie?
Where is this "we don't get any of it without trying?"
We get it even when Republicans win elections. That's why they lose big now. They lie. Run on conservatism, then get in and adopt the Bernie agenda. I'd be all about helping the poor if they actually existed. Where are they?
We get it even when Republicans win elections. That's why they lose big now. They lie. Run on conservatism, then get in and adopt the Bernie agenda. I'd be all about helping the poor if they actually existed. Where are they?
Good luck. Hell half them can't even make it on their own and are sucking on a tit.
