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How about soccer. Those guys run constantly with almost no rest. And they play without pads. Never thought I would suggest such a thing, but watching my grandchildren play the sport has give me a better appreciation for the athleticism it requires.
Wow, wow, wow. So that explains a lot. Sam's view of the basketball team is not personal toward Dan or our player's...its just a warped world view. I do agree that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do is sports, but that doesn't necessarily translate to athleticism. And have you seen the freakish size and speed of the "fat" guys in football at the college/pro level.Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. Football has difficult positions, but it also has positions that can be described as “be fat and in the way”. Pro basketball is a game for thugs and requires no real skills.
Baseball, football, huge gap, basketball.
Coaching little league for many years, we always put the fat kid at catcher, and the worst player in either left field or right field, depending on who we had pitching.After that, you must consider the different athletes within each sport. Is a first-baseman the same as a catcher?
I limit it to the Pro ranks.
Which pro sport has the best athletes?
WTF are you talking about?The original poster said:
You do understand the word “pro” right?
While college football and baseball are just lower skilled versions off the same game, the wonderful sport of college basketball and the NBA street-thug gang member version are so different as to be unrecognizable from one another.
What level of high school did you play baseball? I have seen small rural high schools that couldn't beat a decent 12 year old all star team. High school ball is also way different tha the MLB level.I played baseball and basketball growing up. I have a hard time taking baseball seriously. I hit .416 my senior year, played shortstop, was the 2nd best pitcher on the team, and the only people more "athletic" than me were a few guys on the bench who could pinch-run when needed. They had no skill, they were just fast.
On the basketball team, I was Austin Loop. I could shoot, a lot of our offense involved running me off screens, but I wasn't athletic enough to guard anybody or could take anyone off the dribble.
Just knowing where I stood on each team, I have a hard-time saying baseball players are more athletic. To me, possessing a skill like hitting a baseball, shooting a basketball, accurately throwing a football, etc. is more of an art than athleticism IMO.
@JudgeDD has the best response. OLB/TEs in football or the ridiculous freaks in basketball like LeBron James/Russell Westbrook are the best athletes.
Getting put out 3 out of 10 times (70%) and being called a success in baseball shows exactly how hard that feat is.Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. Football has difficult positions, but it also has positions that can be described as “be fat and in the way”. Pro basketball is a game for thugs and requires no real skills.
Baseball, football, huge gap, basketball.
WV AA. I faced a few guys who got drafted by MLB teams (Braves & Angels), a few kids who went to wvu, and a bunch who went to WVSU, UC, etc.What level of high school did you play baseball? I have seen small rural high schools that couldn't be a decent 12 year old all start team.
Okay in lieu of March Madness I pose this question. I limit it to the Pro ranks. Football, Basketball or Baseball. I will take football for 800 Alex.
Which pro sport has the best athletes?
Athleticism
Basketball
Football
Baseball
Skill/Difficulty
Baseball
Basketball
Football
Hardest for an athlete to go from to another
Baseball
Football
Basketball
tball pros
I’ve played ‘em all, basketball at an advanced level. Coached ‘em all too.
I love baseball but the overall athleticism is less than basketball and football. Baseball has some skills that are hard to master, that’s why I rated it so high in the last two lists.[/QUOTE
AGREE 100%.....Played & coached all three.......Baseball is difficult, especially trying to hit a 97 mph fastball followed by a 86 mph hook. Basketball pro athletes in my opinion and can you imagine what Lebron could do at the TE position for the Cleveland Browns?
Football...easiest in my thoughts. If you do not mind getting hit or delivering a hit...most guys can play football...really better is you can run forever like Forrest Gump or as fast as Usain Bolt.
HerdZilla22 in Charlotte [Home to QB, Teddy Bridgewater & the Carolina Panthers].
I hope to god you’re being factious with this post.Pro Baseball . I think their athletes could cross pollinate across the other sports better than the other athletes could cross pollinate.
Absolutely not. I stand behind my statement.I hope to god you’re being factious with this post.
Let's do my skills competition. Where we take aspects of all three major sports and some other events and I win.The competition isn't even close. For the major sports, the best pure athletes are NBA players.
Does that mean Shaq could be a great shortstop? Of course not. Likewise, Pedro Martinez wouldn't be a great center in basketball or football.
Overall, NBA players are the best overall athletes. Great athletes don't translate to necessarily doing well in baseball since it is skill-heavy. Same with hockey, where skill (skating) is essential. Some of the best athletes in the world wouldn't be able to skate if they had never done it before, but all of the best athletes in the world can do some very fundamental things: jump, run, change direction quickly. Those three things are extremely important in most positions in the NBA yet are only important in some positions in the NFL and MLB.
You can be a great catcher, pitcher, first baseman, etc. without being able to run, jump, or change direction quickly. Outside of a center in a traditional NBA system, you have no chance of seeing the floor if you can't run, jump, and change direction quickly.
The NFL has those attributes in some positions, but you can be a hell of a lineman without being able to jump, change direction quickly, or run fast in football.
A skills competition does not equal athleticism. If that’s the case, then we can enter females into this thing since size & speed aren’t going to be a factor in an ATHLETIC debate.Absolutely not. I stand behind my statement.
I would gladly take the top athletes from all sports at the highest level and have a skills competition and put my statement to the test. We could take parts of each sport and test them. Fine with me.
Running is a skills competition. That is timed. But, it is going to more than a 40. Running events, throwing events, some strength test, some hand eye coordinations stuff, some jumping.A skills competition does not equal athleticism. If that’s the case, then we can enter females into this thing since size & speed aren’t going to be a factor in an ATHLETIC debate.
Let's do my skills competition. Where we take aspects of all three major sports and some other events and I win.
I stand behind big league ball players in the overall scoring aspect.
After the swimming event the NBA is eliminated and 80% of the NFL is.
Things like bowling, golfing, hitting a baseball, shooting a basketball, ice skating, and throwing a football are skills that require little athleticism. Yes, hand-eye coordination is important, but that doesn't take much athleticism.
Things like running, jumping, changing direction quickly, and strength are far more athletic than skill oriented. Those requirements are far more necessary to being successful in basketball than in baseball (or any other major sport) as a whole.
I have been around all these sports, boys. I am talking at the highest levels and overall acorss the spectrum of events, I am taking the big league ball players.
So that narrows it down. Well rounded in the scoring events is going to be the MLB guys.
Multiple events people. This is not just a verticle leap or bench press competition or a 40 yard dash.
Ok but we are not playing a basketball game in my competition. We could take some baseball players and they could make some free throws, They could even hit some three pointers. Now take an NBA guy and can he hit anything past a 75 mph fastball ? Can he throw it to second base from home plate? Can he field a grounder?Stop. I played two of those sports at the D1 level. I coached one of those sports at the D1 level for seven years. In baseball, I played with future pros in high school and college. In football, I played with and against future pros both in high school and college as well as coaching numerous future pros. In basketball, I played against future NBA players while in high school.
This isn't even a close argument. A bad athlete can be a very good MLB catcher, a very good MLB first baseman, a very good MLB pitcher, and a very good MLB designated hitter. Almost half of a starting lineup in MLB can be bad athletes.
Don't believe me? I can list very bad athletes at all of those positions in MLB.
An average athlete can be a very good MLB third baseman, a very good MLB corner outfielder.
That means 2/3 of an MLB starting lineup can be average to bad athletes.
Basketball? A bad athlete who happens to be very tall can be decent as a center in a particular system. Other than that, you can't be a bad athlete and be a very good NBA player, let alone even an average NBA player.
Name me bad athletes in the NBA, outside of centers, who were very good NBA players.
Ok but we are not playing a basketball game in my competition. We could take some baseball players and they could make some free throws, They could even hit some three pointers. Now take an NBA guy and can he hit anything past a 75 mph fastball ? Can he throw it to second base from home plate? Can he field a grounder?
There are ways to measure this. You get so many points for each event. We will take some aspects from across sports and have a skills competition.
Baseball wins. The catcher might not because that a certain skill withiin baseball and his damn knees might be shot anyway.
Ok an athletic skills competition. Name the events.Read your last post. Notice how you keep saying "skills" and "skills competition"? That's because those things you want to do are SKILLS. Skills take repetition and practice. Raw athleticism doesn't take that same repetition. Running fast, jumping high and quick, changing direction, etc. are not skills. Those are raw athletic traits.
If you want to simply look at skills in each sport, then there is a good chance that a bowler or golfer will win a free throw competition. Does that mean they are more athletic than an NBA swingman? Exactly.
What’s the highest level of basketball you’ve been around?I have been around all these sports, boys. I am talking at the highest levels and overall acorss the spectrum of events, I am taking the big league ball players.