Baseball Stadium

[ohio herd]

OMG so the solution to the new baseball field is tear down 2 arenas? LOL
They have land earmarked for the stadium now as I have read. The location by BASF will work fine.

 

[redsfan5590]

You could just say, "I don't want to donate...but I'm gonna complain anyway" instead of trying to mask your ability to be objective and willing to consider it.

Sounds like a whole lot of complaining through nitpicking to me.
Dried blood? How do you know? Did you take a forensic murder kit with you? It could have been a half a dozen other things.
The maitenance crew is meant to pick up and wipe anything they can. Mop the floors, and clean the bathrooms. They aren't sweeping the place for microbial contaminants.
You're also referencing something several hundred people routinely step on during games to move about, bleachers.
I don't know when the last time the bleachers were replaced...but I doubt it was recently...so you're complaining about something that is naturally going to look worn.
You also can't just get people to clean certain things...powerwashing the stadium hit a roadblock because if I'm not mistaken, it was said MU had to get special insurance policies for the volunteers who wanted to powerwash the stadium to avoid any legal action in case of an accident.

Next time I go to a place like Death Valley or The Big House, I'll be sure to make a critical note of the conditions of the goal posts, because thats the big thing now...couldn't be anything else.
Try it, I can see you now,
"Hey guys, your stadium sucks! Your goal posts are faded!"
As you're laughed out of the tailgate, try to consider this...
What do you think "upgrade" means? Because an upgrade would/could be to replace said bleachers with either better and more durable ones or just chairbacks. In either case, it helps cut down maitenance needs and costs by replacing inefficient parts, with more efficient parts.
I imagine a decent ventilation and A/C system would also help a new coat of paint from wearing as much due to reducing moisture from the heat of a packed crowd?
I will admit, the paint is a problem and the A/C is a huge project and certainly no fault of the current AD...we all know if he were in charge when the Cam was being built, he'd have made it better.
But thats what a gofundme would do, for the paint...however, you tighten MU's efficiency by expanding your areas to complain.

On the goal posts you can mock, but watch a game at Alabama or any other big time program... there’s no coincidence, the goal posts look freshly painted each year. Is it the biggest deal? No. But how hard would it be to paint those each year? Or heck... once. But instead we laugh at the idea of taking care of things like that.

I remember a few years ago it was the same with the turf at the Joan. Needed painting it looked bad. And we were told “oh come on!? It’s just field paint don’t get bent out of shape.”

So you’re telling me that because of insurance we can’t powerwash our stadium? That’s a terrible excuse.

As for the dried blood... yeah when there is dried blood all over a bench. That’s disgusting. What’s worse is who knows how long it has been there or will be there. Because again we do not take care of our stuff.

So again... why would I donate to help our athletic program build new facilities when we can’t even take care of what we have!? I mean... are we going to somehow have the insurance money for a new baseball field to wash that?

The athletic department needs to start budgeting money for the little things. To take care of our facilities.

 

[oldeherd]

I seem to recall that breakdown of the Henderson Center's seating being that there are currently less than 5,000 chairbacks, and the remaining 4,500 or seats are in those general admission bleachers. Our total capacity factors in that our fanbase is mostly made up of highly-evolved, sentient sardines.

If you've ever sat in them at a packed game, your "seat" winds up being bout 9" wide, not to mention the awkward "finding your way to an open seat without the existence of aisles" maneuver that involves crawling overtop of the people who got there before you. It's one of the more humbling experiences in the world of college basketball fandom, and something I would recommend to anyone with small children. Hardship breeds character.

Believe the listed capacity of the CAM is a tad over 9000. I have said on numerous occasions that MU should conduct a study on the cost and feasibility of replacing the bleacher seats, perhaps 2 new chair backs for 3 current bleacher seats or so. In the long run, I believe that increased attendance in those new chair backs would more than pay for the new seats. A total capacity of 7500 to 8000 or thereabouts at the CAM should be more than sufficient for MU basketball for the foreseeable future!!

 

[oldeherd]

On the goal posts you can mock, but watch a game at Alabama or any other big time program... there’s no coincidence, the goal posts look freshly painted each year. Is it the biggest deal? No. But how hard would it be to paint those each year? Or heck... once. But instead we laugh at the idea of taking care of things like that.

I remember a few years ago it was the same with the turf at the Joan. Needed painting it looked bad. And we were told “oh come on!? It’s just field paint don’t get bent out of shape.”

So you’re telling me that because of insurance we can’t powerwash our stadium? That’s a terrible excuse.

As for the dried blood... yeah when there is dried blood all over a bench. That’s disgusting. What’s worse is who knows how long it has been there or will be there. Because again we do not take care of our stuff.

So again... why would I donate to help our athletic program build new facilities when we can’t even take care of what we have!? I mean... are we going to somehow have the insurance money for a new baseball field to wash that?

The athletic department needs to start budgeting money for the little things. To take care of our facilities.

I have season tickets in the lower bowl on the North side of the CAM. Have on more than one occasion gone to the men's restroom on that side of the facility PRIOR to the start of the game and found that there were NO paper towels at all in the dispensers.

Part of the "fan experience" at MU which, despite all, is at or near the top of CUSA attendance in men's basketball. All part of what I considered the Athletic Administration, from Hamrick on down, attitude, almost haughty and a "take it or leave it" one, towards its fan base!!!

 

[bbneutralfan]

Spot on redsfan and could not agree more. MH and all always proud of new facilities (and should be) and then maintaining becomes secondary even tertiary in terms of interest. We get all the new trappings in the HC and that’s great. Sadly no one wants to paint the paint peeling off the ceiling, repair the leaking toilets, etc. Sane in the Joan. Doubt President Gilbert ever checks those out. Anyway I do agree with your post.

 

[CarolinaZilla69]

Believe the listed capacity of the CAM is a tad over 9000. I have said on numerous occasions that MU should conduct a study on the cost and feasibility of replacing the bleacher seats, perhaps 2 new chair backs for 3 current bleacher seats or so. In the long run, I believe that increased attendance in those new chair backs would more than pay for the new seats. A total capacity of 7500 to 8000 or thereabouts at the CAM should be more than sufficient for MU basketball for the foreseeable future!!

Charlotte's Halton Arena seats a little over 9000 and most seats are chair backs, including the lower bowl....WKU Diddle Arena [built in 1963] seats 7,326....ODU Ted Constant Arena [ built/renovated in1999] has 7,319 fixed seats & 862 upper club/priority seats & 16 luxury box suites....MTSU...is large @ 11,520 seats with mostly chair backs.

8,000 + would be ample for Marshall...and chair backs would be inviting rather than a lot of the present seats being bleachers.

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte

 

[CarolinaZilla69]

I have season tickets in the lower bowl on the North side of the CAM. Have on more than one occasion gone to the men's restroom on that side of the facility PRIOR to the start of the game and found that there were NO paper towels at all in the dispensers.

Part of the "fan experience" at MU which, despite all, is at or near the top of CUSA attendance in men's basketball. All part of what I considered the Athletic Administration, from Hamrick on down, attitude, almost haughty and a "take it or leave it" one, towards its fan base!!!

DEPLORABLE is all that can be said....since Dan provides us 2-seats...we go to the Hartly (sp) Room to use the John. It is clean...and you don't have to wonder why....The Administration and Big Green Givers to basketball PEE there! The dirty bathrooms are an indication of SOMEONE not "giving a S%it" about the larger number of fans. Perhaps, a new AD is needed and in the Big Green Too....CLEAN THE CAM....

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte

 

[Herdmeister]

Charlotte's Halton Arena seats a little over 9000 and most seats are chair backs, including the lower bowl....WKU Diddle Arena [built in 1963] seats 7,326....ODU Ted Constant Arena [ built/renovated in1999] has 7,319 fixed seats & 862 upper club/priority seats & 16 luxury box suites....MTSU...is large @ 11,520 seats with mostly chair backs.

8,000 + would be ample for Marshall...and chair backs would be inviting rather than a lot of the present seats being bleachers.

HerdZilla22 in Charlotte

ODU, Ted Constant Arena, is far the nicest arena in CUSA

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

On the goal posts you can mock, but watch a game at Alabama or any other big time program... there’s no coincidence, the goal posts look freshly painted each year. Is it the biggest deal? No. But how hard would it be to paint those each year? Or heck... once. But instead we laugh at the idea of taking care of things like that.

I remember a few years ago it was the same with the turf at the Joan. Needed painting it looked bad. And we were told “oh come on!? It’s just field paint don’t get bent out of shape.”

So you’re telling me that because of insurance we can’t powerwash our stadium? That’s a terrible excuse.

As for the dried blood... yeah when there is dried blood all over a bench. That’s disgusting. What’s worse is who knows how long it has been there or will be there. Because again we do not take care of our stuff.

So again... why would I donate to help our athletic program build new facilities when we can’t even take care of what we have!? I mean... are we going to somehow have the insurance money for a new baseball field to wash that?

The athletic department needs to start budgeting money for the little things. To take care of our facilities.

Did you really just compare us to Alabama?

Funny how you said how hard would it be to paint those each year...well...
The amount spent on that could be used to fix the complaint of lack of paper towels in the restrooms...which you would complain, "Why are we wasting money on painting goal posts? Why not use it on the bathrooms!!!"
Its literally everything for people like you.

Yes, insurance was an issue, once more MU didn't want a lawsuit if someone got hurt...its a legal setback, it happens to MU all the time, quit acting like its something new.
Its also not something you should blame MU for either.
As for the blood, whatever it is, why didn't you bring it up with maitenance?

You could donate money with a note specifying "This donation is for new paint on the goal posts and to clean up the blood in Section _____."

Oh no, I know why, because complaining on an online forum is more satisfying...as is pointing out something MU may or may not be aware of, that you are, gives your life a little more meaning.

You talked about budgeting for the little things...MU can't always do that, and if we did, people like you, would complain about why MU isn't budgeting for bigger and better things.

You also answered my response in your complaint...Hamrick didn't just replace the paint on the field, he replaced the entire field itself. Knocked out 2 birds with 1 stone. It took a little longer but instead of fresh paint on a field that'd need replacing in 2 years, just replace it all.
I bet thats the same with the Cam ceiling paint...but maybe thats something for you to actually ask Hamrick about.

But the biggest problem with your complaint is the belief that MU can somehow afford to use money in the way Alabama does.
Newsflash: MU never will have that kind of money, ever!
Does MU WANT to paint the goalposts? Probably.
Does MU NEED to paint them? No.
Does MU WANT to replace Cam seating? Probably.
Does MU NEED to replace Cam seating? No.

Wants vs. Needs...MU doesn't have the luxury of focusing in the former, but it has the absolute obligation to focus on the latter.

Sad to say, MU may never get to focus on its wants because fans like yourself...all because of a little paint and bleachers. Maybe MU may someday become big time, but to get there requires donations and money, and with your mindset, we'll be slower in getting there.

 

[bbneutralfan]

Well GoHerdMarshallYes how about pitching in with a little volunteer work. Go paint the goal posts yourself. Fix those toilets in the HC and Joan. Clean up the blood while you are at it (FYI maintenance does not do that). Marshall has the money to do these things. Your problem you want to believe they don’t. If the athletic department would invest time and money into maintaining facilities then everything would not pile up at once.
However it seems like the AD needs more staff and assistants and thus more salaries. What in the hell do all those people do in the course of the day? The university is already top heavy with administrators. Just saying.

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Well GoHerdMarshallYes how about pitching in with a little volunteer work. Go paint the goal posts yourself. Fix those toilets in the HC and Joan. Clean up the blood while you are at it (FYI maintenance does not do that). Marshall has the money to do these things. Your problem you want to believe they don’t. If the athletic department would invest time and money into maintaining facilities then everything would not pile up at once.
However it seems like the AD needs more staff and assistants and thus more salaries. What in the hell do all those people do in the course of the day? The university is already top heavy with administrators. Just saying.

So, you're asking me...someone who hasn't complained about goal post paint, bleacher seating, and other aesthetics, to do it myself?
While you and others like you, complain about things not being done, and hold donations over the heads of MU because of it (things that could be solved with a donation from you)??
This sort of thought process...wow. Talk about taking no responsibility for MU's actions then acting responsible when it doesn't go your way.