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Do You Leftists Really Agree with This?

I can't speak for what Democratic politicians and strategy makers think, but I have never - not a single time - thought about how to get more Democratic voters, especially when it comes to illegals coming over as babies. That's not even a distant thought about doing the right thing.






Answer this question honestly.

You're in a medical facility. A raging fire starts. You have a limited time to get out before dying. You only have time to do one of these two things:

1) Grab the four year old boy at one end of the room
2) Grab the small cooler that is labeled with "100 viable human embryos" at the other end of the room

Which one do you choose?


Yes, because every woman's uterus is on fire when carrying a living fetus, and she is forced to make the decision in a life or death situation.

One could argue there are very specific scenarios which take place and could be similar, but those are rare exceptions and not the norm.
 
In the politics and money thread you claimed that Beto raised, most likely 16 million from small donors, which you called nearly half of 38 million. So just pointing out statistically similar exaggerations where you think yours is fine and Rox's is ridiculous.
 
She's 90-something. She doesn't have children other than the grandchildren (or great) who visit her. I did bring her a case of water when this neighborhood lost electricity though and it was 90+ degrees. Does that count?
Sure. The USA gives more aid to the world than any other country. You didn't let her just walk in with her extended family and live with you.
 
In the politics and money thread you claimed that Beto raised, most likely 16 million from small donors, which you called nearly half of 38 million. So just pointing out statistically similar exaggerations where you think yours is fine and Rox's is ridiculous.

Yes, 16 is NEARLY half of 38. You understand what "nearly" means, right? Further, that was at the low estimate based on what seems like a reasonable amount each small donor would give on average.

Now, compare "nearly" to stating something outright. On top of you not knowing what "nearly" and "decade" and "year" means, 3 is less than 17% away from the difference of half of 38 regarding the 16. 3 years (the difference between a decade and the actual number of years the school was closed) is nearly (there's that word again) twice as much as the difference.

Again, trying way too hard.
 
So a QB that completes 43% of his passes is completing nearly 60%? You must be a heck of a QB coach.

Also, what month did the HS close down, and what month is it now? Rounding in your favor is something you do really well.
 
In the politics and money thread you claimed that Beto raised, most likely 16 million from small donors, which you called nearly half of 38 million. So just pointing out statistically similar exaggerations where you think yours is fine and Rox's is ridiculous.

See, this is what the position coach does best. He argues about minutea that really isn’t important to the discussion and wears you down with persistence and volume.

I had no idea when Williamson consolidated. I didn’t bother looking. I knew it was more than 5 years ago and not 15. A decade sounded about right. Who cares?
 
So if the choices are your mom and a 4 year old and you choose your mom, I can say that the lives of children aren't really that important to you?

Let me dumb this down for you once again:

I have a personal relationship with my mother. That would greatly influence my decision. On the other hand, BC doesn't have a relationship with that random 4 year old. He also doesn't have one with any of the 100 embryos. I know there are some numbers involved there, but you can understand the huge difference between my hypothetical and your attempt at an analogy, right?

Feel free to answer the question for yourself.
 
Yes, because every woman's uterus is on fire when carrying a living fetus, and she is forced to make the decision in a life or death situation.

One could argue there are very specific scenarios which take place and could be similar, but those are rare exceptions and not the norm.

What? You aren't of even average intelligence, so you should bow out of this conversation.
 
I can't speak for what Democratic politicians and strategy makers think, but I have never - not a single time - thought about how to get more Democratic voters, especially when it comes to illegals coming over as babies. That's not even a distant thought about doing the right thing.






Answer this question honestly.

You're in a medical facility. A raging fire starts. You have a limited time to get out before dying. You only have time to do one of these two things:

1) Grab the four year old boy at one end of the room
2) Grab the small cooler that is labeled with "100 viable human embryos" at the other end of the room

Which one do you choose?

I pour gasoline all over me and say F it and that way I won't have to read another dumb ass question like this. Right before I am about to go up in flames, I tell the kid to run and grab the Yeti cooler and tell him he can keep it.
 
So a QB that completes 43% of his passes is completing nearly 60%? You must be a heck of a QB coach.
.

You have to look at in context. First, the normal range of any QB's completion percentage is much closer than 0%-100%. It's usually almost always between 46%-75%. Any starter with something out of that range is an extreme outlier. Therefore, your 17% difference accounts for more than half of the normal range of the best and worst QB.

Further, as numbers increase, the "nearly" is more accurate. For instance, pretend your wife took your daughter shopping. When they came home, your daughter showed you the new shirt she bought for her birthday. You told her it was a nice shirt. Then, your wife interjected and said "I hope it is a nice shirt. She paid nearly $100 for it!" If you found out that your daughter only paid $84 for it, would you go back to your wife and tell her she was wrong and that your daughter didn't pay nearly $100 for it? Of course not.

Pretend you manage a team of 38 employees. Your boss tells you that you have to let 16 of them go that day. You came home and your wife could tell that you were distraught. You explained to her that you had to let nearly half of your employees go. When she asked how many, you said "I had to let go 16 of the 38." Do you think that anyone reasonable would say "16 isn't nearly half. It's 16 vs. 19, those are't close"? Of course not. It's context.

Likewise, somebody saying that "nearly half of that $38 million was raised a certain way" (16 vs. 19 out of 38) is nearly half.


Also, what month did the HS close down, and what month is it now? Rounding in your favor is something you do really well.

Without looking again, I believe it was June of 2011 and another reference to it being August of 2011. Therefore, at the longest, it would be 7 years and 4 months. It's standard to round down if it is below 5, hence 7 years. You really aren't good with numbers, are you?

And your claim that I am rounding up/down to my advantage is also bogus when you look at my examples above.

See, this is what the position coach does best. He argues about minutea that really isn’t important to the discussion and wears you down with persistence and volume.

Who the fvck are you kidding? You're the one who has spent the last two weeks making bullshit allegations, then when proof is shown that you're wrong, you hide. Hell, how many times do I have to tell you to explain how my first post in that particular thread was wrong in any way only to have you continue to hide, then claim you aren't hiding, yet refuse to answer? How many times have I said to take each of your allegations individually, yet you refuse to respond to the proof? You're the one who throws shit out, and when none of it sticks, you try another throw only to ignore being called out for your previous bullshit.


I had no idea when Williamson consolidated. I didn’t bother looking. I knew it was more than 5 years ago and not 15. A decade sounded about right. Who cares?

No, no, no.

See, this is why you aren't very bright and are a hypocrite. You asked where it was that I was getting my statistics and then inferred that they were bullshit like you have incorrectly accused me of before. I showed where my stats came from. Then, when you presented statistics, I called you out the same way you did to me. The difference is that I had references for the correct statistics that I used. You, on the other hand, presented bullshit, which you incorrectly accused me of doing, and now want to hide behind it being irrelevant.

It's called being stupid and being a hypocrite. You've mastered both.
 
I pour gasoline all over me and say F it and that way I won't have to read another dumb ass question like this. Right before I am about to go up in flames, I tell the kid to run and grab the Yeti cooler and tell him he can keep it.

I get it. If you're honest with your answer, it blows away your argument that conception is the start of a human's life and there should be no abortions after that.
 
It is possible to feel sorry for these people but also realize they have no rights to enter the US illegally.

Would it make you feel better about these people if we made all of them pick lettuce all day for minimum wage so your salad isn't more expensive?
 
What? You aren't of even average intelligence, so you should bow out of this conversation.

Just stop already. Your analogy made no sense whatsoever. It was another attempt to spin your abortion argument, but was completely flawed in logic.
 
Getting back to the original point, I think it’s interesting to draw a parallel between these immigrants and the plight of the tenant farmers from the Midwest in the 1930s. My favorite all-time book and author is Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck. His depiction of how farmers from Oklahoma and Arkansas and other midwestern states were removed from their land by banks calling in the debt accrued by the farmers due to plunging worldwide cost of corn, wheat, and cotton during the depression and the dust bowl environmental disaster.

Although the Joads were fictitious, they represented the 1.3 million farmers who were displaced during that time. So here’s where the parallel begins. Due to problems outside of their control, a large amount of these farmers had to pack up and make their way across the country to California looking for the low paying seasonal farming jobs...picking grapes, etc. The historic Route 66 was the immigrant march through Mexico.

These people arrived starving (many died along the way), but maintained this vision of how their problems would be solved if only they could get to the land of opportunity that California held in their minds. Of course they were met by abusive farm owners who treated them like dirt and exploited their plight by giving unlivable wages in order to personally profit.

These were the original shithole people from shithole states. All these immigrants from Honduras are doing is seeking a chance. We...by virtue of our birth...are very fortunate. It is beyond me how little empathy that is being shown by this administration and those who revel in it. I’m not saying you have to let everyone in. Of course there has to be a vetting process. But the callousness and glee I’m watching the Trump legion celebrate the hard line rhetoric is concerning.

I got mine, right?
 
Silly assertion on your part. Do better next time.

No, it's not. You cancelled out your "possible to feel sorry for these people" with your "they have no rights to enter the US illegally." It's eerily similar to the "I feel sorry for the aborted, but they're on their own if they're born" stance.
 
No, it's not. You cancelled out your "possible to feel sorry for these people" with your "they have no rights to enter the US illegally." It's eerily similar to the "I feel sorry for the aborted, but they're on their own if they're born" stance.

So you reject the idea of sovereign nations then?
 
You have to look at in context. First, the normal range of any QB's completion percentage is much closer than 0%-100%. It's usually almost always between 46%-75%. Any starter with something out of that range is an extreme outlier. Therefore, your 17% difference accounts for more than half of the normal range of the best and worst QB.

Further, as numbers increase, the "nearly" is more accurate. For instance, pretend your wife took your daughter shopping. When they came home, your daughter showed you the new shirt she bought for her birthday. You told her it was a nice shirt. Then, your wife interjected and said "I hope it is a nice shirt. She paid nearly $100 for it!" If you found out that your daughter only paid $84 for it, would you go back to your wife and tell her she was wrong and that your daughter didn't pay nearly $100 for it? Of course not.

Pretend you manage a team of 38 employees. Your boss tells you that you have to let 16 of them go that day. You came home and your wife could tell that you were distraught. You explained to her that you had to let nearly half of your employees go. When she asked how many, you said "I had to let go 16 of the 38." Do you think that anyone reasonable would say "16 isn't nearly half. It's 16 vs. 19, those are't close"? Of course not. It's context.

Likewise, somebody saying that "nearly half of that $38 million was raised a certain way" (16 vs. 19 out of 38) is nearly half.




Without looking again, I believe it was June of 2011 and another reference to it being August of 2011. Therefore, at the longest, it would be 7 years and 4 months. It's standard to round down if it is below 5, hence 7 years. You really aren't good with numbers, are you?

And your claim that I am rounding up/down to my advantage is also bogus when you look at my examples above.



Who the fvck are you kidding? You're the one who has spent the last two weeks making bullshit allegations, then when proof is shown that you're wrong, you hide. Hell, how many times do I have to tell you to explain how my first post in that particular thread was wrong in any way only to have you continue to hide, then claim you aren't hiding, yet refuse to answer? How many times have I said to take each of your allegations individually, yet you refuse to respond to the proof? You're the one who throws shit out, and when none of it sticks, you try another throw only to ignore being called out for your previous bullshit.




No, no, no.

See, this is why you aren't very bright and are a hypocrite. You asked where it was that I was getting my statistics and then inferred that they were bullshit like you have incorrectly accused me of before. I showed where my stats came from. Then, when you presented statistics, I called you out the same way you did to me. The difference is that I had references for the correct statistics that I used. You, on the other hand, presented bullshit, which you incorrectly accused me of doing, and now want to hide behind it being irrelevant.

It's called being stupid and being a hypocrite. You've mastered both.

Again, not hiding. I think maybe the disconnect is I read about half of what you write and move on with my life, whereas you spent your whole weekend on here.

Again, you haven't proven anything, and not a single person who has read your posts believes any of your claims. If there's anyone out there who believes any of "coach's" claims, speak up. Just want one person to say they believe you.
 
So you reject the virtue of actually doing something about the sufferings or misfortunes of others?

You mean like pretending to be pro-union but putting your employees on a performance-based pay scale when they want union benefits?
 
All these immigrants from Honduras are doing is seeking a chance. We...by virtue of our birth...are very fortunate. It is beyond me how little empathy that is being shown by this administration and those who revel in it. I’m not saying you have to let everyone in. Of course there has to be a vetting process. But the callousness and glee I’m watching the Trump legion celebrate the hard line rhetoric is concerning.
As one of the more deplorable (out of the millions of deplorable Trumpers), my take is pretty simple. I feel badly for the poor folks having to flee their country, and wished there was something that could be done for them. With that stated, if we simply open up our country to allow these 5,000 to 10,000 in, what do you think we'll occur shortly thereafter? I think you know what will occur, and that's why you have to stop it before it all starts. As Mr. Fife used to say often, nip it in the bud. Just, nip it in the bud.
 
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^^^And this is why rifle calls you a moron and liar.

It’s funny, you and greed 2 have a lot in common, but mental illness and imagining things that just don’t exist seem to be your most common bond.

You’re aware that literally every person who post here thinks you should be institutionalized, right?
 
It’s funny, you and greed 2 have a lot in common, but mental illness and imagining things that just don’t exist seem to be your most common bond.

You’re aware that literally every person who post here thinks you should be institutionalized, right?

rifle and I have very little in common. But he seems to have more compassion for humans than most of the "god fearing" conservatives on this board. Ironically, one of the things you and conservatives do on this board is "imagine things" and then claim them to be true.
 
rifle and I have very little in common. But he seems to have more compassion for humans than most of the "god fearing" conservatives on this board. Ironically, one of the things you and conservatives do on this board is "imagine things" and then claim them to be true.

Fortunately compassion isn’t measured by how much of other peoples’ money you’re willing to spend on an issue.
 
No way bro. That's too many people going on too far of a trip. Imagine the stockpile of rations needed in the example to supply troops. These people wouldn't have such luxuries as small, compact and yet complete meals like MRE's. It's not like they're traveling with livestock, which is how nomads can reach long destinations.

If they were traveling a 2-3 day journey, I'd say your description of how they go about doing it and surviving is accurate. But this is just too many people, and the journey is far too great. Someone is supporting them.

You don't think the locals could help them enough? I know they are getting a kick out of sticking it to the gringos.
 
Also, williamson high school hasn’t existed in more than a decade. Using current demographics for williamson isn’t relevant. When I grew up there 20 years ago it was a much different town than it is now thanks to an effective war on its primary industry, which trickled down to every industry in the town..

It was a great town 20+ years ago, the kind of town where the homecoming queen was a crack addict and was murdered by a retarded crack addict because she was snitching on the negro crack dealer. A real Norman Rockwell sort of place.

Mingo County is a shithole, and has been a shithole since at least the early 1900s.
 
That doesn’t mean let them all into your house

"All?" You're talking to the man who wouldn't even let one into his own home. He will talk about doing it, because he knows there's no possibility of a refugee all the way down there getting all the way to OW, so he continues to remain safe, living in his geographical oddity.
 
It was a great town 20+ years ago, the kind of town where the homecoming queen was a crack addict and was murdered by a retarded crack addict because she was snitching on the negro crack dealer. A real Norman Rockwell sort of place.

Mingo County is a shithole, and has been a shithole since at least the early 1900s.
Not exactly true. Williamson was a bustling coal town back in the day. Even in the mid 90's it was not as bad as you portray. I used to cover that area and it was not bad at all.

Your assertion is not a fair one.

Also, anyone doubts the destruction the Obama admin had on coal and the related industries and communities is fooling themselves.
 
Not exactly true. Williamson was a bustling coal town back in the day. Even in the mid 90's it was not as bad as you portray. I used to cover that area and it was not bad at all.

Your assertion is not a fair one.

It is absolutely fair. Mingo County has been a hotbed of corruption and drugs from the 80s on. That's our lifetimes. Bloody Mingo. It's been a backwater forever. It's a place where it was perfectly normal for the homecoming queen to be running around with crack dealers.

I once read a quote that summed it all up: "Mingo County is where JFK invented poverty". Invent it because the rest of America had no idea white people lived that poor....and hillbillies had no idea the rest of America was different than where they lived.

Your post is very typical for something Appalachian folks think: if a few people are doing well times must be good. That shit isn't the real world. I was starting to believe that way myself before I moved. Murox thinks it was Happy Days because he grew up with money.
 
"All?" You're talking to the man who wouldn't even let one into his own home. He will talk about doing it, because he knows there's no possibility of a refugee all the way down there getting all the way to OW, so he continues to remain safe, living in his geographical oddity.
that's what really gets me. how many of these liberal faggits are willing to open their home for a few of the illegals that come here with nothing? zero, that's how many. as long as the illegals don't tread on their property and they don't have to deal with the illegals, all is good, open the gates. the second they have to personally deal with them, i guaran-fvcking-tee there'll be some minds a changing regarding open borders.
 
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