How long before this soccer deal goes bad or they are broke?

[i am herdman]

US Soccer agrees to equal pay deal | CNN

The United States Soccer Federation (USSF), the United States Women's National Team Players Association (USWNTPA) and the United States National Soccer Team Players Association (USNSTPA) have agreed to a deal that achieves "equal pay and set the global standard moving forward in international...

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[murox]

US Soccer agrees to equal pay deal | CNN

The United States Soccer Federation (USSF), the United States Women's National Team Players Association (USWNTPA) and the United States National Soccer Team Players Association (USNSTPA) have agreed to a deal that achieves "equal pay and set the global standard moving forward in international...

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Lol I love this.

 

[Jartard]

Lol I love this.

Ha! The WNBA is officially on notice now. Going to be a lot of unemployed lesbos when they can’t get paid that soon.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Ha! The WNBA is officially on notice now. Going to be a lot of unemployed lesbos when they can’t get paid that soon.

The WNBA. Does anyone watch that shit?

 

[ThunderCat98]

I love soccer. I love women's soccer. I watch hours of soccer every week. To be honest, the USWNT puts out an overall better product than the men's team does. That being said, this deal will end up bankrupting U.S. Soccer. Why? Because people turn out in higher numbers and pay more to watch men play sports. Regardless of how you feel or think, that is an indisputable fact. You can't pay women the same amount of money if they aren't putting asses in seats or ratings on TV.

 

[SamSwimmer]

Didn’t the US Women’s soccer team get beat by an under-15 boys team just a few years ago?

 

[herdfan429]

FC Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. Women's National Team in a scrimmage

www.cbssports.com

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

FC Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. Women's National Team in a scrimmage

www.cbssports.com

Be interesting to see how many, if any, starters played for the women's team, and how many minutes. As the article says, it was very informal.
That said, the USMT needs all the help they can get. They are horrid.

 

[big_country90]

I love soccer. I love women's soccer. I watch hours of soccer every week. To be honest, the USWNT puts out an overall better product than the men's team does. That being said, this deal will end up bankrupting U.S. Soccer. Why? Because people turn out in higher numbers and pay more to watch men play sports. Regardless of how you feel or think, that is an indisputable fact. You can't pay women the same amount of money if they aren't putting asses in seats or ratings on TV.

Bingo. You can’t arbitrarily pay somebody something in the name of fairness. Have these people not learned anything? Socialism never works.

 

[Jartard]

FC Dallas under-15 boys squad beat the U.S. Women's National Team in a scrimmage

www.cbssports.com

Hopefully those 15 year old boys are compensated as well as the professional “women” that they beat! 😂😂

 

[i am herdman]

Hopefully those 15 year old boys are compensated as well as the professional “women” that they beat! 😂😂

Maybe the women compesentated afterwards.

 

[Jartard]

Maybe the women compesentated afterwards.

They’d compensate a girls team.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Maybe the women compesentated afterwards.

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

That said, the USMT needs all the help they can get. They are horrid.

Not really. We have more young talent on the USMNT roster than ever before. Guys like Pulisic, Reyna, McKennie and West play meaningful minutes for some of the top clubs in Europe. The present is solid but the future of the team is very, very bright.

 

[i am herdman]

 

[i am herdman]

Not really. We have more young talent on the USMNT roster than ever before. Guys like Pulisic, Reyna, McKennie and West play meaningful minutes for some of the top clubs in Europe. The present is solid but the future of the team is very, very bright.

Where did some of the Marshall men from the championship team end up?

 

[herdfan429]

Where did some of the Marshall men from the championship team end up?

Back in Europe where they came from

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

Back in Europe where they came from

Vitor Dias, Nathan Dossantos, Max Schneider, Jamil Roberts and Pedro Dolabella are all playing professional soccer in the states. Only Max and Jamil are from Europe.

 

[i am herdman]

Vitor Dias, Nathan Dossantos, Max Schneider, Jamil Roberts and Pedro Dolabella are all playing professional soccer in the states. Only Max and Jamil are from Europe.

at what level? Like Tier 3 or whatever they call it?

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

Not really. We have more young talent on the USMNT roster than ever before. Guys like Pulisic, Reyna, McKennie and West play meaningful minutes for some of the top clubs in Europe. The present is solid but the future of the team is very, very bright.

Pulisic has been solid, but even with all the talent, they just can't seem to get it done. Disappointing considering the support they receive compared to the women.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

at what level? Like Tier 3 or whatever they call it?

I think USL.

 

[i am herdman]

I think USL.

That's like the NC FC or used to be the NC Railhawks. They play on the field where MU won the championship game.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

Not really. We have more young talent on the USMNT roster than ever before. Guys like Pulisic, Reyna, McKennie and West play meaningful minutes for some of the top clubs in Europe. The present is solid but the future of the team is very, very bright.

While there are some top players on the USMNT the team itself has no depth. It's like a lot of mid-level soccer nations. Also our coaching set up is atrocious and hasn't improved since I played ODP in the mid 90's.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

at what level? Like Tier 3 or whatever they call it?

All the Marshall players are in the USL Championship or USL One, basically AAA and AA.

 

[i am herdman]

All the Marshall players are in the USL Championship or USL One, basically AAA and AA.

I know enough about soccer to just be dangerous but, man, those guys were good.

 

[HerdandHokies]

24 comments about soccer salaries. Sad.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Why? Because people turn out in higher numbers and pay more to watch men play sports. Regardless of how you feel or think, that is an indisputable fact

From what I always understood, and Google bears this out, the women's national team is actually more popular than the men, has higher TV ratings, and produces more revenue. Ratings 22% higher, $20m more in revenue. Yes this is very different from any other sport.

At first I didn't bother to look this up, and I assumed men's pro soccer, the MLS, is more popular than women's league. Nope. Women's ratings are surging past the men. So soccer is apparently the outlier. I'm not sure about attendance as I only looked at the TV ratings, but this is still VERY different from basketball, golf, etc.

 

[i am herdman]

24 comments about soccer salaries. Sad.

Want to talk about gas prices or prostate exams?

 

[raleighherdfan]

24 comments about soccer salaries. Sad.

No doubt, more interesting than a teenager retail wage.

 

[ThunderCat98]

From what I always understood, and Google bears this out, the women's national team is actually more popular than the men, has higher TV ratings, and produces more revenue. Ratings 22% higher, $20m more in revenue. Yes this is very different from any other sport.

At first I didn't bother to look this up, and I assumed men's pro soccer, the MLS, is more popular than women's league. Nope. Women's ratings are surging past the men. So soccer is apparently the outlier. I'm not sure about attendance as I only looked at the TV ratings, but this is still VERY different from basketball, golf, etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-equal-pay-womens-players-mens-players-uswnt

Important part, "USSF also says the men’s team generates more revenue. The women’s team generated $101.3m over the course of 238 games between 2009 and 2019 while the men generated $185.7m over 191 games, according to the federation."

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-equal-pay-womens-players-mens-players-uswnt

Important part, "USSF also says the men’s team generates more revenue. The women’s team generated $101.3m over the course of 238 games between 2009 and 2019 while the men generated $185.7m over 191 games, according to the federation."

That's a wider spread of years that does not reflect the current situation. Apparently shit got weird after the women won the World Cup in 2015

In 2016, women’s games generated $1.9 million more in revenue than men’s games. From 2016 to 2018, women’s games generated approximately $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for men’s games.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/19/us-womens-soccer-games-now-generate-more-revenue-than-mens.html

I cannot find numbers the past couple years, but given the women were World Cup winners again in 2019 I would wager the numbers are similar.

Perhaps we should not be surprised. The women win, bigger payouts and rising TV revenues. Youth soccer has had HUGE gains with girls, lots of new fans with parents who become fans.

I will note my post should have said $2m...I must have brushed the 0 below the 2 on the number pad.

 

[alphasig1053]

It sounds like the union screwed the men's team over hard.

 

[herdfan429]

The women approved their previous pay scale so they didn’t have a leg to stand. It’s not the mend vault the women approved what they did and got paid less

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

While there are some top players on the USMNT the team itself has no depth. It's like a lot of mid-level soccer nations. Also our coaching set up is atrocious and hasn't improved since I played ODP in the mid 90's.

Played ODP myself in the early 90s out in Omaha.

I think our depth has improved with this recent group of players but I’m not a Berhalter fan. Agree with you there.