lol, Part of the problem the EP is out on this island with little to no state media coverage, and so we continue produce players and teams that out perform other parts of the state. Right now Jefferson High has a linebacker that is getting over looked just like Tyson. The kid is 6-2, 235 and is close to having 500 tackles for a career with little to no attention. I get that Doc wants to use street cred he has on local WV kids to help put butts in seats but lots kids that could help him win and expand the Marshall name. Another kid that is producing at an extreme level is Martinsburg's QB free safety Grant Harman. He is a 4.0 student that will be a three time first team all state pick on defense and now 3rd in the kennedy award on offense. If Doc takes such pride in his recruiting then maybe he needs someone new following this area.
It is my understanding that once Phil Ratliff left for Charlotte German's offer got pulled. Lots of discussion but Bagent is capable of playing in the CUSA. I think Nic Longerbeam from Jefferson would be able to compete at that level (500 career tackles in hgh school, production alone should get you a look). Btw, not talking offers, just walkon slots
Agreed....it was Notre Dame's coach's that saw Bagent in the first game of the season (and was lucky win)...that told others just how good this kid was going to be in the future....also that staff is the one's that thought Bagent was a D1 football player.
Your boy, Nic Longerbeam of Jefferson is not a totally unknown, he made special honorable mention All-State last year. Hope to see him in Kelly Green next Fall.
Correct, its like Doc has no idea these players even exist. Grant Harman is a great example from Martinsburg. Also, the linebacker from Martinsburg de-committed from WVU today. I know the kid has been hurt all season but is this a chance for Marshall to get in on a good player?
Banked on a hurt QB when a 17 year old kid that wanted to attend Marshall just set a school and conference record with 7 TD passes and is in the top 3 in the nation with 315 yards per game. While completed 67 pct of his passes. Not sure who is recruiting that area but it seems they missed on this one
We offered but he said thanks but no thanks. I doubt he decommitted from WVU, I would say he more than likely had his offered pulled.
I don't think we recruit the EP, if so, it's a total failure...and if we do recruit the EP, it's even more of a failure.
We have actually offered Lee and Grantham in the last two classes so we have been recruiting the school. The fact is that our coaches just aren't as high on most of the Martinburg players as most of the Martinsburg fans on here are at this time.
Legg was the one making the decision on QBs in that class and he saw Bagent up close and personal and decided not to offer. We had Litton coming back, Green in-house as the heir, Morrell as an underclassman backup, and two 2019 class QB commits before the 2018 signing class closed, and at one point had a 3-star JUCO transfer QB committed as well. the coaches decided not to take any 2018 QBs in the class at the end as they didn't deem any of the available QBs a good fit or good enough for an offer.
Ehh...it happens.
All the more reason to recruit the area to get Marshall's brand name out to the community.....the thing is the EP has lots of WVU fans but they also are not Marshall haters. Lots of fans that go both ways.....Also, WVU people not always happy with Dana's efforts in the EP. The prime example last year was Jalen Hessen the NG. He would have been a prop but he had Marshall written all of him.
We have a 3-star NQ in house that had SEC offers at the DT position and we can only take so many or have a cap on NQs we can take each year. I know you guys want us to offer these guys, but you need to go look at the offer list and understand that we are going after a fairly high caliber level of recruits in our classes, and that will result in not offering guys that may not have the same level of potential. Some Martinsburg players may be good HS players, but that doesn't mean they project to be good players at the FBS level.
Don't worry there is a discussion over on the wvu blue lot board about the same topic
I think the point is someone missed the boat....this state has had so few real QB prospects in the last 50 years and when we get one everyone drops the ball...part of the problem is college coaches don't go see kids play games anymore....they cant see how they carry themselves, how they lead, how they prepare before a game, so the human factor is taken out of the process.
good points in this post! I agree some mistakes were made and maybe it was Bill Legg that missed on this deal but we already know from another person on this board that reached out to a regional D2 coach who was once in the Sun Belt Conference that he feels Tyson can play at that this level now. I do think at some point everyone is just going to need to move on. The kid could in end up throwing for almost 15,000 yards in his career and having a 4.0 GPA, so if he stays healthy those numbers puts him in the discussion for a slot in the College Football HOF and a Rhodes Scholar.
Like was already said, a former D1 coach that has coached against Tyson has said he can play in the Sun Belt now, so then lots of D1 schools missed but its just a shame the two WV schools didn't take a chance......I would have to agree if he throws for 13,000 to 15,000 yards then he has a shot at something special after his career.
