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Marshall is Absolutely Pathetic for Withdrawing

We were never down to 41 players and three lineman, maybe these are the numbers they wanted to play. But i'm pretty confident the team number was near 105, like every other D1 program. Even if you subtract 40, that still leaves 65 kids who are staying home, no reward for their WHOLE YEAR efforts; it was there chance.
You have th go a little deeper.

Start with the fact we have 85 scholarship players and understand that most walk-ons are necessary practice bodies, maybe 1 or 2 grows enough to earn a scholarship, but most last a year or two and are gone.

So, if we have lost 35 players it means we have 50 scholarship players left. Then you have to subtract those that may have been injured throughout the year and aren’t available.

Out of those remaining 47-48 players you have 15 or so FR that have been RS this year, so that leaves just over 30 players that have been active and may have participated in a game this season.

It’s simply not in the best interest of the safety of the players to ask walk-ons and RS players to go play 50-60 snaps in their very first live action game. It’s not like “gosh, they played in HS, so what’s the big deal?”. You are asking 18 year olds that haven’t really gotten a lot of coaching attention all season to go line up against 22-23 year old men with 4-5 years of training at this level.

Then you have to look at the available players by position group. Of the 30 some players that have some experience and have to play the majority of the snaps, do you have enough to cover the required 22 positions? Doesn’t work if 8 of them are safeties, unless it’s a good idea to put a safety at DE to get run over by a 290lb tackle all day.

I understand the kids would play, it’s what they do. They don’t want to come off the field when they’re injured. However, it’s the responsibility of the program to not put them in unnecessary danger.
 
You have th go a little deeper.
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It’s wild how bent up everyone is that we aren’t playing in a bowl game with a team that would have struggled to defend their option, coaches that would have been able to pull it together quickly, and not get stomped by 45. It would have been more embarrassing than to regroup, rebuild, and recover.

We won the conference championship and were picked 5th in the division at the beginning of the season.

Coach did his job. The players got their conference championship. Let them all go about their business.

Exactly. Funny thing is Spears actually said Huff and he agreed, Huff would focus on winning a SBC title...and he did exactly that.
Huff may be a bad person (I dunno, never met him) but he professionally keeps his word.
 
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We were down to 51 players. 29 of which had taken a snap all year. And a coaching staff that was also limited. The University made the right decision in this case.

I feel bad for the seniors who will miss this last opportunity to take the field one more time. But I don’t think any fan of Marshall would have wanted to see the kind of game this limited team would have produced.

Fans wanted a reset from Huff. The university is giving us a reset.
Agreed.
If Marshall got stomped in the bowl game, the fans would have complained on why MU even decided to play.

The majority of the fans on here are a sorry bunch.
 
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Marshall isn't Alabama.

Duh.... You don't say...

Alabama is a beneficiary of the current NIL system. MU and the rest of the mid-majors are not...

Edited to add:

And Alabama is only the 17th most popular program in the NCAA...

 
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I haven't heard anything, but I wonder if some of the seniors said they weren't interested in playing Army without a QB and other key players? They just won the the SBC and why play in a game that they would be undermanned? Their last game they would be champions vs the possibility losing badly to Army. They would go winners vs losers.
 
Exactly. Funny thing is Spears actually said Huff and he agreed, Huff would focus on winning a SBC title...and he did exactly that.
Huff may be a bad person (I dunno, never met him) but he professionally keeps his word.

I think circumstances kept Huff's word and not Huff himself.

Six games into this season he was barely a .500 HC - that would have gotten him fired at Boise St.

Had he been more than a barely .500 HC he would have been gone from MU.

If either of these, and other similar, circumstances occurred he would have not won the SBC title at MU and thus "professionally kept his word"...
 
At the rate that Marshall football is falling apart, the Joan will be a mattress recycling center by the time I can get down to another game.
 
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I see now why you're a Huff apologist - you share the same opinion of MU fans...

Nah, I could care less about Huff.
He did his job, won a conference title, and bolted, exactly what everyone was saying he would do.

It's the knee-jerk reactions supposed full grown adults have when things don't go their way.
"Marshall is pathetic for withdrawing from the bowl game."
Or...
"Marshall is pathetic for playing in the bowl game with a depleted roster and being blown out."

Y'all just want to be mad at someone...and you're mad at the wrong people.
It's sad.
 
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Y'all just want to be mad at someone...and you're mad at the wrong people.

So who should everyone be mad at?

It's really an easy fix - don't open the portal until after the bowl season is over. And perhaps put a limit on the number of transfers.
 
I wonder when/if Gibs ever wins a Conf title we will read the same poor takes: "Marshall was lucky they won it. They won despite coaching. Circumstances let them win."

What in the f*** are some talking about? Seriously delusional.
 
I wonder when/if Gibs ever wins a Conf title we will read the same poor takes: "Marshall was lucky they won it. They won despite coaching. Circumstances let them win."

What in the f*** are some talking about? Seriously delusional.
Based on our place in college football, we def knee jerk/go ballistic/act delusional way above our weight….
 
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Exactly. Funny thing is Spears actually said Huff and he agreed, Huff would focus on winning a SBC title...and he did exactly that.
Huff may be a bad person (I dunno, never met him) but he professionally keeps his word.

"but he professionally keeps his word" whilst citing the same interview where the AD said Huff wouldn't interview for positions in season... and then did, is some absolutely Olympic level mental gymnastics. Even for you. We are truly witnessing greatness folks. The Simone Biles of mental gymnastics strikes again.
 
Never heard anything about the hate…please enlighten me on this and any details of what ensued.
Thanks.
didnt Billy Ross leave? The other guys just stayed and put up with it. , but there was no love there. This comes from a starting OL guy at the time.
 
So who should everyone be mad at?

It's really an easy fix - don't open the portal until after the bowl season is over. And perhaps put a limit on the number of transfers.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! You think the NCAA cares about MU being hosed by the system?

"Easy fix..."SMH, so everyone's going to vote against the tens of millions of dollars that athletes won't get for meaningless bowl games? Unless you're one of the 12 who made the CFP, they're useless, but nobody's going to put a halt to the money made from them because your feelings are hurt.

Be mad at the system, but accept it being your reality for the foreseeable future. There isn't anyone specifically to be mad at more than anyone else. Everything that everyone did was because the system was set up for it to happen.
 
I wonder when/if Gibs ever wins a Conf title we will read the same poor takes: "Marshall was lucky they won it. They won despite coaching. Circumstances let them win."

What in the f*** are some talking about? Seriously delusional.

"Yeah we won the SBC...but let me tell you...how close MU came to being 7-5 instead!! Huff isn't a good coach!!!"
MU fans are the only ones who legitimately complain about winning.
 
"but he professionally keeps his word" whilst citing the same interview where the AD said Huff wouldn't interview for positions in season... and then did, is some absolutely Olympic level mental gymnastics. Even for you. We are truly witnessing greatness folks. The Simone Biles of mental gymnastics strikes again.

Considering your laughably bad takes at reduction in advertising as a revenue generator, complaints about spots on bleachers and field goal post paint, you may want to re-consider your approach here, pal.

I haven't listened to the interview with Spears since it came out, but was anything legally documented when it came to what Huff could and couldn't do? If so, obviously that's a breach of contract and Huff could be sued.
But since nothing has come of it, sounds to me like it was just a handshake and agreement.
While Huff did what plenty in the coaching world already do, he at least gave MU a SBC title...fulfilled the agreement in that area.
"We play for championships" remember?

Ethically wrong for him? HAHAHA! Do you forget what world you're dealing with, the NCAA and coaching?!
Ethics went out the window decades ago.

Illegal? No. Frankly, that's what it will be from now on...as long as it's legal, it's fine.
 
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! You think the NCAA cares about MU being hosed by the system?

"Easy fix..."SMH, so everyone's going to vote against the tens of millions of dollars that athletes won't get for meaningless bowl games? Unless you're one of the 12 who made the CFP, they're useless, but nobody's going to put a halt to the money made from them because your feelings are hurt.

Be mad at the system, but accept it being your reality for the foreseeable future. There isn't anyone specifically to be mad at more than anyone else. Everything that everyone did was because the system was set up for it to happen.

So you can't answer a simple question? Got it.

Who said anything about voting AGAINST the current system??? All I said was to modify the current system.

The basketball portal is open ONCE a year for 30 days when 91% of all teams have completed their season: Mar 24 - Apr 22.

The football portal is open TWICE. Dec 9-28 when many teams still have bowl games scheduled and Apr 16-25.

The easy fix is to standardize the two sports - one 30 day portal for both and after most of the teams (say 90%) have completed their seasons (including bowl games).

Sorry you are too dense to see that or is it that you just like being a sm@rt@$$?
 
Considering your laughably bad takes at reduction in advertising as a revenue generator, complaints about spots on bleachers and field goal post paint, you may want to re-consider your approach here, pal.

I haven't listened to the interview with Spears since it came out, but was anything legally documented when it came to what Huff could and couldn't do? If so, obviously that's a breach of contract and Huff could be sued.
But since nothing has come of it, sounds to me like it was just a handshake and agreement.
While Huff did what plenty in the coaching world already do, he at least gave MU a SBC title...fulfilled the agreement in that area.
"We play for championships" remember?

Ethically wrong for him? HAHAHA! Do you forget what world you're dealing with, the NCAA and coaching?!
Ethics went out the window decades ago.

Illegal? No. Frankly, that's what it will be from now on...as long as it's legal, it's fine.

Moron,

I never said it was illegal. You used a Spears quote to say he was a man of his word. In that same context Spears said he is not a man of word. You want to discount the one while elevating the other. Because again... mental gymnastics. But at this point I'm starting to wonder if there are problems mentally.
 
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So you can't answer a simple question? Got it.

Who said anything about voting AGAINST the current system??? All I said was to modify the current system.

The basketball portal is open ONCE a year for 30 days when 91% of all teams have completed their season: Mar 24 - Apr 22.

The football portal is open TWICE. Dec 9-28 when many teams still have bowl games scheduled and Apr 16-25.

The easy fix is to standardize the two sports - one 30 day portal for both and after most of the teams (say 90%) have completed their seasons (including bowl games).

Sorry you are too dense to see that or is it that you just like being a sm@rt@$$?

Comprehension isn't his strong point. Marshall won't move the needle on this. But ESPN will. You can claim these bowls mean nothing but they're still valuable for TV and that's why they exist. Once that revenue starts to dry up because games are getting canceled or you have a bowl where there are major injuries from 5th string kids having to play, things will start to change. I think they probably were headed that way already, this probably just speeds things up.
 
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Comprehension isn't his strong point. Marshall won't move the needle on this. But ESPN will. You can claim these bowls mean nothing but they're still valuable for TV and that's why they exist. Once that revenue starts to dry up because games are getting canceled or you have a bowl where there are major injuries from 5th string kids having to play, things will start to change. I think they probably were headed that way already, this probably just speeds things up.

Yep - it has to start somewhere and the MU situation won't necessarily change things but it is drawing more attention to the problem.

Independence Bowl Committee sponsors can't be very happy right now - a 10-3 conference winner has been replaced by a fifth place 5-7 team and Army just got beat by Navy...
 
Yep - it has to start somewhere and the MU situation won't necessarily change things but it is drawing more attention to the problem.

Independence Bowl Committee sponsors can't be very happy right now - a 10-3 conference winner has been replaced by a fifth place 5-7 team and Army just got beat by Navy...
Hmmm independence bowl is in LA? Right??
Where’s the team playing Army from??
May help attendance may increase
 
Hmmm independence bowl is in LA? Right??
Where’s the team playing Army from??
May help attendance may increase

I think the TV advertisers are after a national audience, not a regional one...

Let's hope all 15k La Tech fans show up for the game...
 
Comprehension isn't his strong point. Marshall won't move the needle on this. But ESPN will. You can claim these bowls mean nothing but they're still valuable for TV and that's why they exist. Once that revenue starts to dry up because games are getting canceled or you have a bowl where there are major injuries from 5th string kids having to play, things will start to change. I think they probably were headed that way already, this probably just speeds things up.

The teams who are likely to cancel are G5 teams, because they lack the resources to buy a roster in under a week.
That'll leave P4 programs who can fill in. Even at 6-6 or 5-7, they'll be a bigger brand nationally.
The bowl games have been around for a long time and if they haven't dried up revenue then, they won't now.
 
So you can't answer a simple question? Got it.

Who said anything about voting AGAINST the current system??? All I said was to modify the current system.

The basketball portal is open ONCE a year for 30 days when 91% of all teams have completed their season: Mar 24 - Apr 22.

The football portal is open TWICE. Dec 9-28 when many teams still have bowl games scheduled and Apr 16-25.

The easy fix is to standardize the two sports - one 30 day portal for both and after most of the teams (say 90%) have completed their seasons (including bowl games).

Sorry you are too dense to see that or is it that you just like being a sm@rt@$$?

I did answer it. It's the system to be mad at, not the players or coaches since they did what's best for them.
If you're modifying it, you're against its current setup.
It's not even going to be about the portal soon. It's about teams/boosters tampering with athletes to delay, transfer, or just simply not leave.

It's not going to matter trying to regulate when someone can transfer, because a different program can tell them not to play and pay them once they leave.
Already there have been rumors that Ole Miss paid an Alabama CB "seven figures" to transfer despite having done well and being one of their top recruits. He apparently did transfer.
 
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