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Moron, you're the one who said "fish" (see below). I responded to your comment:




So let's look at this:
The "conventional definition" of "meat" excludes fish from it.
Legally, fish is not considered meat.
For food regulatory purposes, fish is not considered meat.

Yet we have Crispy Lips, a lifelong west virginia educated moron who is taking a firm stance otherwise and expects everybody to believe he knows more than the above.


Learn to spell, moron. Oh, and I already mentioned pescatarian in this thread.


So you - a moron who routinely shows a lack of intelligence with his bogus posts - also knows more than the traditional definition, the legal definition, and the regulatory definition.
Enjoy taking your female date with a dick out to eat some meatless fish.
 
Enjoy taking your female date with a dick out to eat some meatless fish.

This is as bad of an attempt as this board has ever seen. Between these attempts and your constant posting of bogus tweets, you should consider going over to herdfans.com
 
You don't get out much.

Moron, fish isn't always considered a meat.

I really don’t want to embarrass you much more, but the article you used mentions types of animals, then lists types of meat. What animal is beef? What animal is veal? Again, not trying to embarrass you. Just dumbing it down so you can comprehend.
 
I really don’t want to embarrass you much more, but the article you used mentions types of animals, then lists types of meat. What animal is beef? What animal is veal? Again, not trying to embarrass you. Just dumbing it down so you can comprehend.
Like usual, I have no idea what you're trying to argue. So your argument is that fish is meat? My argument is that according to many, fish is not considered meat. I have listed legitimate definitions of fish not being meat.
 
What's your point, moron? I am the one who brought pescatarians (again, learn to spell) into this thread.
But then you turned around and said vegetarians eat seafood.

Yes at almost 6 AM this morning I misspelled a word after working a 12 hour shift.
 
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So let's look at this:
The "conventional definition" of "meat" excludes fish from it.
Legally, fish is not considered meat.
For food regulatory purposes, fish is not considered meat.

Yet we have Crispy Lips, a lifelong west virginia educated moron who is taking a firm stance otherwise and expects everybody to believe he knows more than the above.

Look here, dumbass.

The American Meat Science Association (AMSA) defines meat as red meat (beef, pork, and lamb), poultry, fish/seafood, and meat from other managed species.

Fish is also considered part of the seafood category, which includes other marine life like shellfish.

You just made yourself look like a complete idiot by saying, and I quote:

"Haven't had chicken or meat in about six years."

I simply said: "Psssst. Chicken is meat, dumbass."

You're just trying to squirm your way out of yet, another totally dumbass statement.

The American Meat Science Association says fish and chicken are meats. I think I'll take their word for it over your and any other definitions you come up with.

Again...For a smart fella, you sure are dumb.
 
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According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) fish and poultry are meat.

Now, if vegetarian pussies want to include chicken and fish in their diets, I couldn't give two shits less. Trying to convince the rest of us that chicken and fish aren't meats makes you look like dumbasses.
 
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Now, if vegetarian pussies want to include chicken and fish in their diets, I couldn't give two shits less. Trying to convince the rest of us that chicken and fish aren't meats makes you look like dumbasses.
Morons, that isn't what I did, which is more proof that you lack basic reading comprehension. What I stated, repeatedly, is that reputable definitions don't include fish as meat.


flesh of a mammal as opposed to fowl or fish

Catholicism refrains from eating meat on Fridays during Lent, but they don't consider fish meat.


According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) fish and poultry are meat.
Wrong. Why lie? The USDA, both in classifications and inspections, separate fish from meat. In fact, when they are talking about both, they utiize "meat and fish." Now, if they felt fish was meat, why would they use both words? The USDA uses stickers/certification for meat/ poultry/eggs while using something entirely different for fish.
 
I like that the spiraling argument where Rifle insists fish isn’t meat was started by a post where he was called out in a post where he said fish is meat.
 
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I like that the spiraling argument where Rifle insists fish isn’t meat was started by a post where he was called out in a post where he said fish is meat.
I was waiting to point that out. I tried giving them a hint in my last post when I told Crispy Lips that I wasn't saying fish isn't meat; I was arguing that legitimate sources say it isn't meat. He doesn't seem to be able to understand the difference. I stated that fish is meat but also pointed out that in many cases, based on reputable sources, fish isn't meat.
 
Rifle looked from fish to pig, and from chicken to fish, and from fish to pig again, but already it was impossible to say which was which.
 
Morons, that isn't what I did, which is more proof that you lack basic reading comprehension. What I stated, repeatedly, is that reputable definitions don't include fish as meat.


flesh of a mammal as opposed to fowl or fish

Catholicism refrains from eating meat on Fridays during Lent, but they don't consider fish meat.



Wrong. Why lie? The USDA, both in classifications and inspections, separate fish from meat. In fact, when they are talking about both, they utiize "meat and fish." Now, if they felt fish was meat, why would they use both words? The USDA uses stickers/certification for meat/ poultry/eggs while using something entirely different for fish.

You're such an idiot. Also, I didn't lie, Pedo-puss.

"Ground tuna meat and Crab meat." Both are found on the FDA website.

Also turkey and chicken is meat. Anyone on here can look for themselves and determine you're an idiot.

Poultry is meat, fish is meat and seafood is meat, according to the FDA/USDA, Pedo-puss.
 
You're such an idiot. Also, I didn't lie,
In another thread, you mentioned how many years you've been on here, yet still in that time, you haven't gotten sick of me making you look stupid. So we shall continue . . .

Poultry is meat, fish is meat and seafood is meat, according to the FDA/USDA, Pedo-puss.
"Meat" means the flesh of animals used as FOOD including the dressed flesh of cattle, swine, sheep, or goats and other edible animals, except FISH, POULTRY, and wild GAME ANIMALS as specified under Subparagraphs 3-201.17(A)(3) and (4).
That is the food code from the FDA. At the bottom of those slides, it even provides the email address for a food specialist at the FDA, so you can even email her and look stupid.
But let's make you look ever dumber. The USDA and FDA are different agencies. The USDA is responsible for regulating all meat, eggs, and poultry. But it doesn't regulate fish. Well, if it regulates all meat, then why not fish? It's because it doesn't classify fish as meat, moron. All fish and seafood other than Siluriformes is regulated by the FDA.
So your dumbass didn't even get that part correct.


Who inspects fish?​


Mar 22, 2024​

KNOWLEDGE ARTICLE
The Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS), with the USDA, inspects meat, poultry, and egg products. One category of fish that FSIS inspects is Siluriformes: this type of fish is under mandatory federal inspection done by the United States Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS). The FSIS inspector must have knowledge about that particular species. The "Passed and Inspected by USDA" seal ensures the Siluriformes fish is wholesome and free from disease. More than 2,000 species of Siluriformes live worldwide. The most commonly raised and consumed species in the United States are the Channel catfish and Blue catfish. All other types of fish and seafood is regulated by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). For information on regulation of fish and seafood, other than Siluriformes, please contact the FDA at 888-723-3366.

 
In another thread, you mentioned how many years you've been on here, yet still in that time, you haven't gotten sick of me making you look stupid. So we shall continue . . .


"Meat" means the flesh of animals used as FOOD including the dressed flesh of cattle, swine, sheep, or goats and other edible animals, except FISH, POULTRY, and wild GAME ANIMALS as specified under Subparagraphs 3-201.17(A)(3) and (4).
That is the food code from the FDA. At the bottom of those slides, it even provides the email address for a food specialist at the FDA, so you can even email her and look stupid.
But let's make you look ever dumber. The USDA and FDA are different agencies. The USDA is responsible for regulating all meat, eggs, and poultry. But it doesn't regulate fish. Well, if it regulates all meat, then why not fish? It's because it doesn't classify fish as meat, moron. All fish and seafood other than Siluriformes is regulated by the FDA.
So your dumbass didn't even get that part correct.


Who inspects fish?​

Mar 22, 2024​

KNOWLEDGE ARTICLE
The Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS), with the USDA, inspects meat, poultry, and egg products. One category of fish that FSIS inspects is Siluriformes: this type of fish is under mandatory federal inspection done by the United States Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS). The FSIS inspector must have knowledge about that particular species. The "Passed and Inspected by USDA" seal ensures the Siluriformes fish is wholesome and free from disease. More than 2,000 species of Siluriformes live worldwide. The most commonly raised and consumed species in the United States are the Channel catfish and Blue catfish. All other types of fish and seafood is regulated by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). For information on regulation of fish and seafood, other than Siluriformes, please contact the FDA at 888-723-3366.


After all of that, fish and chicken are meats.

Damn, you're dumb.

And it was YOU who mentioned how many years I've been here. As usual, I merely pointed out how wrong you are and what a liar you are, Pedo-puss.
 
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After all of that, fish and chicken are meats.

Damn, you're dumb.

And it was YOU who mentioned how many years I've been here. As usual, I merely pointed out how wrong you are and what a liar you are, Pedo-puss.
This deserves a lot of these 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

So you just got embarrassed and shown to be wrong from the exact sources you claimed. Yet you're now claiming that the source you attempted to use to support your claim, which actually directly addresses your exact claim, is wrong. Brilliant!

I can't make this shit up even if I tried. Thanks for making this so easy for me and for completely falling into the trap.
 
This deserves a lot of these 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

So you just got embarrassed and shown to be wrong from the exact sources you claimed. Yet you're now claiming that the source you attempted to use to support your claim, which actually directly addresses your exact claim, is wrong. Brilliant!

I can't make this shit up even if I tried. Thanks for making this so easy for me and for completely falling into the trap.

Not embarrassed a bit. You should be, because you're wrong, but you're too arrogant.

Chicken = meat.

riflearm2 = Pedo-puss
 
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Not embarrassed a bit. You should be, because you're wrong, but you're too arrogant.

Chicken = meat.

riflearm2 = Pedo-puss
I'm wrong? Tell us again how the USDA/FDA classifies fish, moron.
 
Crickets.
If Herdman could spell "embarrassed," he would type that he is embarrassed for you.

I’ll totally dumb this down and end this discussion now. Using your dumbass logic, cannibals by your definition would be vegan.
Why would somebody of your intelligence level try to challenge me on something? Did you not see how that worked out for Crispy Lips in this thread? I called him out for lying, he claimed he didn't lie, then I posted irrefutable proof that he lied, which caused him to run away.

As I have mentioned multiple times in this thread, I didn't take a stance on the issue. My only stance was that many reputable sources (I've listed some) don't consider fish as meat. But let's say that was my argument: let's say that I agree with those sources and believe that fish isn't meat. Then how would your cannibal analogy make any sense, moron?
 
If Herdman could spell "embarrassed," he would type that he is embarrassed for you.


Why would somebody of your intelligence level try to challenge me on something? Did you not see how that worked out for Crispy Lips in this thread? I called him out for lying, he claimed he didn't lie, then I posted irrefutable proof that he lied, which caused him to run away.

As I have mentioned multiple times in this thread, I didn't take a stance on the issue. My only stance was that many reputable sources (I've listed some) don't consider fish as meat. But let's say that was my argument: let's say that I agree with those sources and believe that fish isn't meat. Then how would your cannibal analogy make any sense, moron?
Human flesh isn’t mentioned as “meat” either dipshit. God, are you truly this fvcking stupid now? It’s not even fun debating you on here now. If this were the 1800’s, you’d be calling me “master” because I own you.
 
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Human flesh isn’t mentioned as “meat” either dipshit. God, are you truly this fvcking stupid now? It’s not even fun debating you on here now. If this were the 1800’s, you’d be calling me “master” because I own you.
@mlblack16. , come get your guy. I've beat him down enough over the last six weeks for him to still be on here embarrassing himself and wasting my time.
 
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