Do any of you honestly believe that MH is even considering getting rid of Doc?
Getting rid of him?
Not likely.
Not renewing his contract?
Yes.
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Do any of you honestly believe that MH is even considering getting rid of Doc?
BIG money is what it's going to take to get a top-tier talent. And as long as we are fantasizing....Leftwich or Pennington might come for less than a proven top-tier coach/OC. Talk about (initial) fan support...wow! Ok, hit me w/ your best shot.
Big money...yeah, it would. But this is for a fanbase who complains about current ticket pricing as it is. You do realize costs would need to go up for getting a head coach for a million dollars...or MU would need to cut costs for their current programs.
Thank you for explaining why a P5 coordinator is out of the question IN THIS ERA. .
Thank you for explaining why a P5 coordinator is out of the question IN THIS ERA. Good job. Much better than just calling people “dumb” and citing things that happened decades ago.
Thank you for explaining why a P5 coordinator is out of the question IN THIS ERA. Good job. Much better than just calling people “dumb” and citing things that happened decades ago.
Which would give you the best return on the risk taken?
P5 coordinator from an upper tier P5 school.
or
FCS head coach from a very competitive but lower tier program?
Most coordinators from a upper tier P5 already make much more money than the $800k we pay Doc. Can we afford to pay over $1 million per year?
And those coordinators are usually on a one or two year deal. A head coach will get a minimum four year deal. There’s far more guaranteed money in that even if at a lower annual salary.
Most coordinators from a upper tier P5 already make much more money than the $800k we pay Doc. Can we afford to pay over $1 million per year?
That will have to include MU making changes to afford it. However that's gotta be done...will the fans be ok with it if it is for hiring someone of quality?
Green is a sophomore. If what we've seen this year is the typical sophomore slump (which I believe it is) then I am all in the next two years - should be extremely exciting to watch.You lost me at Green
Green is a sophomore. If what we've seen this year is the typical sophomore slump (which I believe it is) then I am all in the next two years - should be extremely exciting to watch.
Who was the last QB that Marshall had who played both seasons after his Sophomore slump season?
The reason MU is in CUSA rather than the lowly MAC? The fans wanted more.
The reason MU is in I-A and not I-AA? The fans wanted more.
The reason MU is in Div I and not the MEC? The fans wanted more.
And we've continually fought against those who were happy with the status quo.
Who is the “we” you speak of?
I remember the fan base of that era. They gave of their time, of their effort, and expended capital of all types, real, physical, and political. They wanted MU to be special.
Today all I see is a bunch of keyboard warriors that want “something” done, yet who cannot explain what that is;
Is that a different fan base than what we have now?
A bunch of those "keyboard warriors" have told you what they want, a new coach. You just don't like the plan, and your only plan is leave it alone.
Yes, it is. In the past, as MU rose from the ashes, this fan base, while wanting more, cheered hard and proud for a team that was playing The Citadel and Western Carolina in the SoCon, nobody spewed about it being “just I-AA” ; then for the lowest I-A conference (by far) in its era, the lowly MAC, nobody spewed about the MAC and its disfunction. Today, this CUSA is, oh so beneath so many. It’s “just CUSA”, easy to win and automatic. In the past, people paid good money to see games with Akron or Kent State; and earlier with VMI and Eastern Kentucky. Now people want in free, or nearly so.
Yes, this fan base has changed, and for the worse.
That is not a plan, that is a slogan. A plan would be to explain why you want a new coach, which you cannot do unless those of us who understand football accept your false premise that CUSA is this easy automatic thing; then explains who you want who we could get, and then explain how YOU are going to fund your part of that.
Yes, it is. In the past, as MU rose from the ashes, this fan base, while wanting more, cheered hard and proud for a team that was playing
Now people want in free, or nearly so.
That is not a plan, that is a slogan.
A plan would be to explain why you want a new coach, which you cannot do unless those of us who understand football
We have almost entirely the same fan base now as we did then. It was exciting back then because we were making progress and getting better.
Malarkey ^^^. Many posters on here have mentioned lowering ticket prices to get larger crowds, mostly just for important games to give the team a morale boost.
It certainly is a plan, it's just not a detailed plan.
Right there ^^^is your problem. I'd like to buy you for what you're worth and sell you for what you think you're worth, we could afford Saban. Furthermore it doesn't require an engineer to recognize a train wreck. And beyond that, we don't need additional funding for a new coach. I suspect there's several coaches out there who would accept what Doc is making now, and smile about it. If that's not the case, then you're saying that we simply hired the cheapest available coach when we hired Doc. As I posted before, we are losing more conference games in the last 5 years against weaker competition than we did earlier against tougher competition. That ought to be an indicator to any fan that things are deteriorating. And that's not acceptable except for blind loyalists.
I suspect there's several coaches out there who would accept what Doc is making now, and smile about it. If that's not the case, then you're saying that we simply hired the cheapest available coach when we hired Doc. As I posted before, we are losing more conference games in the last 5 years against weaker competition than we did earlier against tougher competition. That ought to be an indicator to any fan that things are deteriorating. And that's not acceptable except for blind loyalists.
to fund your part of that.
Sorry, Sam. As the lady in the funny commercial says: “That’s not how it works.....that’s not how any of this works!”
Let’s just take this one failed point at a time:
Most ridiculous 1st
explain(s!) who you want (&) who we could get....
Name ONE time in the history of college football where the administration/athletics department handed authority for the hiring of a paid coaching position to the fan base?
We’ll just let you fail here initially....
According to the "coaches on the hot seat" site, Doc's job is safe. In fact he only comes in at #91.
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm
According to the "coaches on the hot seat" site, Doc's job is safe. In fact he only comes in at #91.
http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm
“then explains who you want who we could get”It is pretty certain that this fan base should not have such authority. Of course, that has nothing whatsoever to do with my original comment, so I assume you cannot refute that, as usual, and so spewed out what you spewed out.
Win.
Of course, the broader journalism world, outside this sad, entitled, fan base, understands that Doc will be, and deserves to be, here until he retires. I say five more years.
That’s not how it works, & you know it.
Again, I say "UNDERPERFORMING," as in not beating 2 teams that we had no business losing to. And 9-3 is out of our reach this year.That is exactly how it works. Fans (or student fees if you are a directional Florida, et al) pay for programs.
All you have is a few slogans, all of which can be summed up as entitled delusion. Where did “9-3 is not acceptable” get our buddies up north? Nebraska? Michigan? Etc.
Go Herd.
"We find the 9 worst teams in Div I football, barely beat some, and then chest thump over our 9-3 record”
Where did “9-3 is not acceptable” get our buddies up north?
Who is the “we” you speak of? I remember the fan base of that era. They gave of their time, of their effort, and expended capital of all types, real, physical, and political. They wanted MU to be special.
Today all I see is a bunch of keyboard warriors that want “something” done, yet who cannot explain what that is; and who spend most of their time bitching and moaning about game day “atmosphere”, what the band plays, that the school has the audacity to actually charge them to get into the games, that the game is on a TV channel, or on the internet, that requires effort to receive, that the rest rooms are dirty; and above all, that this oh so common a league is beneath their caring about.
go dig out an old program...you won't find Greed donating much at all.