The AAC is expecting a call from Marshall that it is interested in joining if some of AAC teams go to B12. Other teams have made the call....but not Marshall. Hmmmmm.
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Agreed!just too many AA's for me.....while, on the other hand..... ACC sounds better!
We are not going to make it into the P5/P4 (P4 is where it is all going IMO B12 is going to get booted and indi's going to have to choose - 4 16 team conferences) When that happens in a couple years then the rest scramble to reorganize. Why spend a crapload of money to move right now when everything is completely going to change in a soon. all the rest of us are going to restructure everything, so wait. Because the rest are going to fall apart and be reset in regional conferences. Suck it up for now cause we are going to be in the group of also rans. Anyone who thinks we will be included in the "P" division is nuts. Wait and see what happens. We will be one of the top schools in the almost made it group and will be part of the upper end of the also rans which gives some stroke to desicions(sp).
so to get to 4 16 team conf there are an add of 10 teams
2 teams to all but the pac 12 which adds 4.
PAC12 adds BYU and 3 from big 12. KU and Kst and either TX tech, Baylor or TCU
SEC adds OU and UT
Big10(LOL) adds ND and prolly Iowa state (only due to location or maybe OSU)
ACC who knows. Most likely Baylor and TCU (due to the school focus).
WVU is only in the mix for ACC, just don't think they would be the choice as their school does not mesh with the other schools in the ACC -- Baylor and TCU are much more like the schools in the ACC. B10 and SEC HELL NO, Pac12 too far away.
all the rest are left to reorganize. 12 team confs or 16 team. I would think get in with the 12 best schools and move on.
Division 1
WVU
Marshall
ECU
UCF
USF
Southern Miss(or WKY)
Div 2
WKY(or Southern Miss)
LA Tech
Houston
Pick 3 more for west
I agree that there is going to be a major change when the Big 12 goes away and there are 4 16 team leagues. Nothing else will really matter. It may then come to be that the G5 or whatever it will be, will become more regional conferences again. I hope so.We are not going to make it into the P5/P4 (P4 is where it is all going IMO B12 is going to get booted and indi's going to have to choose - 4 16 team conferences) When that happens in a couple years then the rest scramble to reorganize. Why spend a crapload of money to move right now when everything is completely going to change in a soon. all the rest of us are going to restructure everything, so wait. Because the rest are going to fall apart and be reset in regional conferences. Suck it up for now cause we are going to be in the group of also rans. Anyone who thinks we will be included in the "P" division is nuts. Wait and see what happens. We will be one of the top schools in the almost made it group and will be part of the upper end of the also rans which gives some stroke to desicions(sp).
so to get to 4 16 team conf there are an add of 10 teams
2 teams to all but the pac 12 which adds 4.
PAC12 adds BYU and 3 from big 12. KU and Kst and either TX tech, Baylor or TCU
SEC adds OU and UT
Big10(LOL) adds ND and prolly Iowa state (only due to location or maybe OSU)
ACC who knows. Most likely Baylor and TCU (due to the school focus).
WVU is only in the mix for ACC, just don't think they would be the choice as their school does not mesh with the other schools in the ACC -- Baylor and TCU are much more like the schools in the ACC. B10 and SEC HELL NO, Pac12 too far away.
all the rest are left to reorganize. 12 team confs or 16 team. I would think get in with the 12 best schools and move on.
Division 1
WVU
Marshall
ECU
UCF
USF
Southern Miss(or WKY)
Div 2
WKY(or Southern Miss)
LA Tech
Houston
Pick 3 more for west
We are not going to make it into the P5/P4 (P4 is where it is all going IMO B12 is going to get booted and indi's going to have to choose - 4 16 team conferences) When that happens in a couple years then the rest scramble to reorganize. Why spend a crapload of money to move right now when everything is completely going to change in a soon. all the rest of us are going to restructure everything, so wait. Because the rest are going to fall apart and be reset in regional conferences. Suck it up for now cause we are going to be in the group of also rans. Anyone who thinks we will be included in the "P" division is nuts. Wait and see what happens. We will be one of the top schools in the almost made it group and will be part of the upper end of the also rans which gives some stroke to desicions(sp).
so to get to 4 16 team conf there are an add of 10 teams
2 teams to all but the pac 12 which adds 4.
PAC12 adds BYU and 3 from big 12. KU and Kst and either TX tech, Baylor or TCU
SEC adds OU and UT
Big10(LOL) adds ND and prolly Iowa state (only due to location or maybe OSU)
ACC who knows. Most likely Baylor and TCU (due to the school focus).
WVU is only in the mix for ACC, just don't think they would be the choice as their school does not mesh with the other schools in the ACC -- Baylor and TCU are much more like the schools in the ACC. B10 and SEC HELL NO, Pac12 too far away.
all the rest are left to reorganize. 12 team confs or 16 team. I would think get in with the 12 best schools and move on.
Division 1
WVU
Marshall
ECU
UCF
USF
Southern Miss(or WKY)
Div 2
WKY(or Southern Miss)
LA Tech
Houston
Pick 3 more for west
WVU is not getting left out of realignment. If the four conference merge happens they'll end up in the ACC.
EVERY major conference realignment has featured winners and losers. Teams moving up and down between the informal levels that define DI, either of their own choosing or not. The next one will as well. The automatic assumption that, IF the next realignment is a disolution of the Big 12 that every one of the teams will be parcelled out among the remaining 4 is not supportable. Expecially considering that two of the 8 (WVU and TCU) just joined the true major ranks in the last realignment just a few years ago; at LEAST one is in deep ethical and NCAA dodo (Baylor) and the pointless field filler status of the rest.
The BIG question is will the next realignment be what ESPN, et al, have always wanted, which is 20 to 30 big time programs, or will SOME of the Little 8 get selected to join other leagues, because not all will, or will it just be a few fanless AAC teams becoming field fillers in the Big 12.
Relative to Marshall, which is what matters, if the first scenario is true then we and WVU are in, no matter what they call it, are in the second division, and we need to make sure we end up in a good of a geographical arangement as we can be. If the second is true, then we need to keep on our toes, because new G5 level leagues including some of the leftovers from the Little 8 will be forming. Easily could see some of the Little 8 leftovers, some CUSA and some AAC Texas froming a league. If the last scenario is true, then we need to understand that you don't "call" a conference office and ask to join. These people all know each other and it is a much more complex deal than applying to work at the post office. IF (IF, IF, IF, it may not happen) the AAC has two teams become field fillers in the Big 12, then we need to see IF the remnant AAC is in any way better than CUSA 3.0. Understanding that ALL G5 TV deals will be similar to CUSA' s current one, and the esentually fanless nature of most of the MAC and most of the AAC.
MH has it under control.
I think you are correct. The only reason we didn't see a jump in attendance in CUSA 2.0 was due to the horrid Snyder years. Even with those terrible years we held steady around 26K attendance. If we had been more competitive and been bowling more I honestly do believe we would have been closer to 30K in attendance. Is it enough to make a move? I dunno, there is a lot of cost to be offset in making the move. If the AAC really wanted us and wanted to work with us on entrance fees, it could be possible, but if they don't want to, we'd have to have yet another huge donation to do another conference move like last time.I have a feeling MH has put feelers out. I also think he and the MU brass have huge reservations about moving due to cost and trying to increase our athletic budget.
Also, they need to consider the big picture and all sports even though football drives this train.
Lastly, while we may not want to admit it or not, if we go to the AAC, chances are our win total each year will dip in football.
They have to gauge if fans see that as a huge negative and possibly not attend games as a result.
Personally, I think the perceived better competition in the AAC will or could increase attendance.
Bottom line, I doubt we move even if given the chance. $$$$ will be the killer. Jmo.
I don't doubt or maintain any posture on it. I always hated when someone asks for a link over something argumentative, but in this case I would love to see something other than a post stating what the OP stated. Agreed, CUSA is Sunbelt 2.0, not unlike the MAC when we left it. I "hope" this is true and hope we have the ability to do it. I think we can compete just fine now with those teams with Holiday at the helm. I know some cringe at the thought of being with those teams again but one needs to understand how crappy our program was while we were with them. We did just fine against a good portion of them in 2013 before CUSA was completely turned upside down.All speculation. Back to the original post that the "AAC is waiting on a call from Marshall." I doubt it BUT I really hope so. As I said CUSA is a dead end athletically for Marshall - IMO.
My guess is that there is only one place in the entire nation that would declare that WVU would be left out. And in that one place, only one or two people who would float such a notion.
LOL! MIFART is NEVER getting into the ACC. The ACC isn't risking drunken hillbillys ruining the image they've built.
Yes MIFART will make a 64 team power conference alignment, there has to be a bottom to pound, they will be the bottom . I think Holgs likes it as a bottom.
Actually I look for MIFART to have a decent season and save crotchbillys job. They are playing teams we've all played and beaten and Missori is in a down spin of epic proportions. They should start 5-0 easily.
We are not going to make it into the P5/P4 (P4 is where it is all going IMO B12 is going to get booted and indi's going to have to choose - 4 16 team conferences) When that happens in a couple years then the rest scramble to reorganize. Why spend a crapload of money to move right now when everything is completely going to change in a soon. all the rest of us are going to restructure everything, so wait. Because the rest are going to fall apart and be reset in regional conferences. Suck it up for now cause we are going to be in the group of also rans. Anyone who thinks we will be included in the "P" division is nuts. Wait and see what happens. We will be one of the top schools in the almost made it group and will be part of the upper end of the also rans which gives some stroke to desicions(sp).
so to get to 4 16 team conf there are an add of 10 teams
2 teams to all but the pac 12 which adds 4.
PAC12 adds BYU and 3 from big 12. KU and Kst and either TX tech, Baylor or TCU
SEC adds OU and UT
Big10(LOL) adds ND and prolly Iowa state (only due to location or maybe OSU)
ACC who knows. Most likely Baylor and TCU (due to the school focus).
WVU is only in the mix for ACC, just don't think they would be the choice as their school does not mesh with the other schools in the ACC -- Baylor and TCU are much more like the schools in the ACC. B10 and SEC HELL NO, Pac12 too far away.
all the rest are left to reorganize. 12 team confs or 16 team. I would think get in with the 12 best schools and move on.
Division 1
WVU
Marshall
ECU
UCF
USF
Southern Miss(or WKY)
Div 2
WKY(or Southern Miss)
LA Tech
Houston
Pick 3 more for west
I think there will be 4 16 team conferences in what will be the P4. (64 teams) Then all others in the G5.BYU or any religious institution will never be in the Pac-12. UT, Texas Tech will end up in the Pac-12. The Question will be will Oklahoma and Oklahoma State join them or head to the SEC.
When it is all said and done there will be 6-16 team conferences(ACC, AAC, Big 10, SEC, PAC-16, Mountain West) and 2 14 team conferences(MAC, CUSA)
So where will WVU end up? I assume you're saying the SEC because there's zero chance it's the Big 10 or Pac 12.
If its just one opening, I don't see it being us. I figure old time conference mates of USM would want to reunite with them first, hope I am wrong.Appears we have a shot at AAC, 1 opening , if we get it I'm happy, if we don't get it, I'm happy.
I'm always bleeding Kelly green.
Are you saying that there are at least 64 schools with better profiles than WVU? Really? I'd like to see your list. I agree with you that WVU wouldn't even be in the discussion if they go with the top 25-30, but 64? C'mon. If they truly base their selections on the Top 64 overall resumes, then WVU makes the cut with ease.WVU is no where near the level of being in a group of the top 64 teams.