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If you believe showing the pages of testimony where "bribery" isn't found is relevant, then you probably believe Schiff's version of the transcript is a verbatim account.

These were fact witnesses. They weren't asked if Trump is guilty of bribery or "crimes and misdemeanors". That's not why they were testifying.

However, witnesses have used the following to describe this episode:
  • Counter to stated US foreign policy
  • Against US and Ukraine security interests
  • Inappropriate
  • Wrong
 
Ehhhh. Sounds like you might want to take up some of your assertions up with Reuters:
https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/g...e Reuters Impeachment Hearings 11 15 2019.pdf

You might want to review basic math as well as the meaning of majority.

"The sample includes 467 Democrats, 434 Republicans, and 115 independents" Using these numbers, Democrats made up a plurality, not a majority, of those polled. Roughly 46%. Republicans, 43%. This 3 point split matches the split seen in simple polls of party affiliation.

Then why argue against my "everyone" take.

Because it is bullshit. And also because it ignores the political will of both the voters and representatives. Let's say Trump actually murders someone on live TV: if 90% of the voters approve of him even after this, he would remain in office. While this example may seem extreme, there is research indicating Hitler had approval among Germans in the area of 80-90% up to the time Nazi Germany invaded Poland...and the Nazis were already pretty fvcked up and evil by then, and everyone knew it...the Nuremberg Laws were enacted in 1935. 90% of Germans simply supported being fvcked up in exchange for increased employment and national pride.

If Bill Clinton's approval was shit (remember, it rose to 70% right after the House voted to impeach), he would have been removed for lying about that BJ. Ten Republicans voted not guilty on Article 1, lying to the grand jury, and as sure as the sun rises in the east he lied! Hell, he lied on TV to our faces! If ten Republicans were swayed by the threat of Clinton's popularity, it's reasonable think Democrats could have been swayed if the public absolutely hated him...it's not like Al Gore as POTUS would have hurt them politically. But Bill was even liked by many Republicans...or they just felt bad about him getting in trouble over a BJ (very possible, I was a raving Republican then but I did not support removing a man for lying about a BJ of all things).

Likewise, we would not be where we are today if Trump were very popular overall. And he would likely be convicted in the Senate if his popularity among Republicans tanked...POTUS Pence would be a hell of a lot less trouble than Trump. Which is why there is an outside chance they DO remove him...he really needs to STFU right now, instead of saying shit that has even a remote chance of hurting his approval.

Tl/DR: short of a fantastical crime, impeachment is most certainly about what the public believes.
 
If you believe showing the pages of testimony where "bribery" isn't found is relevant, then you probably believe Schiff's version of the transcript is a verbatim account.

These were fact witnesses. They weren't asked if Trump is guilty of bribery or "crimes and misdemeanors". That's not why they were testifying.

However, witnesses have used the following to describe this episode:
  • Counter to stated US foreign policy
  • Against US and Ukraine security interests
  • Inappropriate
  • Wrong
yes, fact witnesses that were asked repeatedly to provide their perception. the only facts they had on their side was the fact they heard the conversations. the rest of what they had to say is conjecture.

how the witnesses - one of which is well known to be a trump hater based on prior actions - describes anything relative is just that . . . their description, their opinion, their conjecture.

dems have nothing. NOTHING. make no mistake about it, though, it's not what they do or don't have. they've already decided trump is guilty and they ARE going to impeach him in the house, it's just a matter of what bullshit they can come up with to do so, which is what this fishing expedition is all about. their problem is that when they catch the sunfish they're after, the senate will simply throw it back. and, by that time, the dems will have done so much damage to themselves in the public's eye, trump will be a shoe-in in 2020.

bookmarkit . . . you can cry about it later.

you pansies have cried about article 25, russia collusion, racist, xenophobe, ukraine, back to article 25 over the past day or three. you're a never ending revolving door that keeps sneaking back up on you and cracking you in the ass. you're a got damn joke. even more pathetic, yore too stupid to see it.
 
Who was the last Republican President that didn’t have articles of impeachment filed against him? Same old play book from Dems.
 
yes, fact witnesses that were asked repeatedly to provide their perception. the only facts they had on their side was the fact they heard the conversations. the rest of what they had to say is conjecture.

how the witnesses - one of which is well known to be a trump hater based on prior actions - describes anything relative is just that . . . their description, their opinion, their conjecture.

dems have nothing. NOTHING. make no mistake about it, though, it's not what they do or don't have. they've already decided trump is guilty and they ARE going to impeach him in the house, it's just a matter of what bullshit they can come up with to do so, which is what this fishing expedition is all about. their problem is that when they catch the sunfish they're after, the senate will simply throw it back. and, by that time, the dems will have done so much damage to themselves in the public's eye, trump will be a shoe-in in 2020.

bookmarkit . . . you can cry about it later.

you pansies have cried about article 25, russia collusion, racist, xenophobe, ukraine, back to article 25 over the past day or three. you're a never ending revolving door that keeps sneaking back up on you and cracking you in the ass. you're a got damn joke. even more pathetic, yore too stupid to see it.
Damn....yore getting all worked up. WTF is article 25?

I merely pointed out a sleazy lawyer trick....just like I did with Schiff's "reading" of the transcript. And look at you.....lordy.

Bottom line: did Trump do it? Is he innocent or guilty? If he did do it, is it an impeachable offense?
 
Ford

Who was the last Democrat President that didn’t have articles of impeachment filed against him?
 
WTF is article 25?
ho lee shit, yore even dumber than I figured.

Damn....yore getting all worked up.
And look at you.....lordy.
if worked up is tearing your bullshit post to shreds and theoretically shoving it up your proverbial ass, then color me guilty.
Bottom line: did Trump do it? Is he innocent or guilty? If he did do it, is it an impeachable offense?
as I've said all along, the transcript doesn't lie...the dems star witness said as much today while while providing his opinion on what it sounded like.
 
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ho lee shit, yore even dumber than I figured.


if worked up is tearing your bullshit post to shreds and theoretically shoving it up your proverbial ass, then color me guilty.

as I've said all along, the transcript doesn't lie...the dems star witness said as much today while while providing his opinion on what it sounded like.
Yore funny
 
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so, the below was a story ran with by the DNC only to find out the numbers they were using with their propaganda was from 2015. you can basically remove everything they've stated regarding trump and replace it with obama.

yet another example that comes back to bite the left in the ass where they've accused trump for something they've actually done. can't make this shit up . . . well, unless you're a mentally deranged liberal faggit and/or involved with the liberal media, then it's just another day in the life. good stuff.

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got damn . . . i was a bill clinton fan. other than liberal pansy faggits who would've thrown ole bill under the bus if he was a dem and the opposite hard core R's who can't see good in anything dem, who in their right mind wouldn't be a fan? . surely this is horseshit. i know, @Raoul Duke MU, i know . . . SOURCE!!!! i hope that's right . . .

click on link for video of interview.

GRAPHIC WARNING: FBI Interviews Alleged Boy Rape Victim of Bill Clinton; Chilling Details of Sex Assaults & Satanic Rituals on Yacht (Video)

Child sex trafficking investigators from the FBI’s New York field office have conducted an interview with a victim who provided chilling details about allegedly being raped by Bill Clinton on a yacht in New England when the victim was a young boy.

“We are treating him as a victim,” an FBI official told True Pundit in New York City prior the interview with FBI.

Top FBI officials arranged the interview with the victim, who said he was raped by Bill Clinton when he was just eight years old. The interview was conducted by the FBI’s task force that was established to investigate sexual assault and sex trafficking claims linked to Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. That task force, also attached to the NYPD, remains active even though Epstein reportedly committed suicide in federal custody just weeks ago.

“We still have a job to do here and that’s what we’re doing,” one FBI official told this reporter.

The interview and the allegations against Clinton are both detailed and disturbing. We have decided to publish the video of the victim’s account in his own words which contain explosive details of the alleged assault and much more. Again, his account is graphic. Nonetheless, both I and the federal agents with knowledge of the case believe the victim is credible.

To the FBI’s credit, the Bureau handled the victim with respect and dignity during the interview. I personally escorted the victim to FBI Headquarters in Manhattan. Even though I have been a massive critic of the FBI, I was impressed with the way they treated the victim who is now in his mid-twenties. Credit the FBI here for listening and investigating.

But the road to this point was not without intrigue and tragedy.

I originally interviewed the victim with journalist Jen Moore who provided the details against Bill Clinton and other elite politicians to child trafficking specialists in DHS Department of Homeland Security and the FBI in July 2018. Moore, an advocate who investigated abused and trafficked children, had been in the process of investigating allegations by the 26-year-old man that — as a young boy — he was sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton and pimped out at private sex parties attended by other D.C. elites.

But Moore and the traumatized victim wanted to contact Homeland Security and the FBI first to see if they would open a criminal case against Clinton prior to publicizing the claims.

Four weeks after contacting the Feds, Jen Moore was found dead in a D.C. hotel room. Moore died of an apparent seizure, though her death remains suspicious and the timing — beyond disturbing. After Moore’s death, the victim, fearful for his own life, decided to not go public with that interview.

Now he is telling his story. And that is what he did for the FBI.

While in New York City, the victim supplied intelligence to federal agents including confirmation that he witnessed other children and people being sexually and physically abused and worse on numerous “boat parties.” These parties were attended by elite members of D.C. political class, according to the victim.

Prior to Jen Moore’s death I had a discussion with her in July that we should simply publish the allegations against Clinton without tipping off the Feds. The victim at that time agreed to use his full name and identity and he said he believed he was prepared to handle any blow back. But Jen Moore said she wanted to work back channels and entice the Feds to voluntarily interview the victim. She set out to do just that. See her video below where she hauntingly describes her frustration with the Feds just days before her death.

The ultimate plan was if federal agents did not pursue or investigate the victim’s allegations, we would publish the details. But we would wait to see what happened.

Now, this has come full circle. We return to my original strategy today and we are doing just that. And instead of waiting for the FBI to take notice of the allegations, we marched right into the FBI.

I hope Jen would be proud. The victim here deserves credit for allowing us to publish these details. Some details the victim provided have been withheld because they could impact any active investigations but they could be published as the matters develop. Regardless, the victim’s account remains beyond disturbing and provides a first-hand account into chilling details of Satanic-like rituals surrounding the exploitation and sexual assaults of children.

Once again, this is a warning of graphic content. The victim fears for his safety but believes working with the FBI has offered him protection. I hope he is right. Again, he does deserve credit for green-lighting the publication of this interview and I personally hope it helps him accelerate his healing process.

As journalists, we need to shine the light on such atrocities and stick our necks out when required. And that is what we are doing here today … as well as settling an old score for the late Jen Moore.
 
a liberal faggit is sitting at a gay bar sobbing when a time traveler suddenly appears next to him. time traveler asks the lib, "why so glum?", to which the lib replies, "president trump, man, he's ruining everything. he's kicking our liberal asses all over the place!"

time traveler: "oh yeah, which one, president trump or president trump jr.?"
 
i'm not much on disparaging people in uniform as i carry the utmost respect for them, but good lorde, what a clown . . .





 
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Well yeah, you used a well-known conspiracy theory spreading website ran by a convicted felon who doesn't even have the balls to use his real name. In fewer words: FAKE NEWS. C'mon....you are smarter than this shit.

Satanic ritual lulz.
do you think they faked the videoed interview? possible, i guess . . .


LMFAO! we all have our crazies . . . (at least, in this case, i sure as hell hope so)

 
do you think they faked the videoed interview? possible, i guess . . .

Absolutely. And why not? It's not like we all don't have HD video recorders in our pockets. Millions of people daily make and upload content.

LMFAO! we all have our crazies . . . (at least, in this case, i sure as hell hope so)

Of course. It's like the anti-vaxxer movement is a mix of Bible Thumpers and Enviro-nutjobs.

I've said before I think a LOT of the ultra-rich and powerful are into kinky shit, and possibly illegal shit. Because when you can have anything or anyone, you get bored and push the limits. Are they drawing Pentagrams in blood and summoning demons? That's fvcking ridiculous. The truly amoral believe in neither God nor Satan.

@Raoul Duke MU what's your thoughts on this Q-Anon shit?

Q-Anon, Pizzagate and more Satan worshiping horseshit. It's Alex Jones type bullshit.

You won't like this answer, but when you have the crookedest POTUS in history it is not a stretch to think he will be investigated by Congress. I'm not sure when you were born, but in my lifetime the majority of POTUS's have had major scandals and people jailed.

Nixon : crook

Ford : worst thing I could find (had to look, I was very young and his administration was notable only for the Watergate Pardons) was this: Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz (R) was asked privately why the party of Lincoln was not able to attract more blacks. Butz replied: "I'll tell you what the coloreds want. It's three things: first, a tight pussy; second, loose shoes; and third, a warm place to shit." Butz resigned soon afterwards on October 4, 1976.[524]

Reagan: IranContra, among other things.

Bush 1: Not much, IranContra pardons, so what.

Clinton: Impeached.

Bush 2: A clusterfvck. Two jailed, Rove damn near got indicted.

Obama: Relatively clean, but his AG was a clusterfvck with that whole Mexican cartel gun thing. But they tried their damnedest to blame Hillary for anything and everything.

Trump: crookedest SOB in history. I mean just personally crooked, he never needed politics to be a crook, unlike Nixon, who probably would have been just a sleazy lawyer without politics.

Six out of eight being investigated....yeah that 4Chan poster you quoted really went out on a limb!
 
@dherd
I don't blame you for going into hiding. The stuff my esteemed colleague, Mr. @WV-FAN has been posting is cringe worthy on behalf of ALL libtards like you.
 
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Absolutely. And why not? It's not like we all don't have HD video recorders in our pockets. Millions of people daily make and upload content.



Of course. It's like the anti-vaxxer movement is a mix of Bible Thumpers and Enviro-nutjobs.

I've said before I think a LOT of the ultra-rich and powerful are into kinky shit, and possibly illegal shit. Because when you can have anything or anyone, you get bored and push the limits. Are they drawing Pentagrams in blood and summoning demons? That's fvcking ridiculous. The truly amoral believe in neither God nor Satan.



Q-Anon, Pizzagate and more Satan worshiping horseshit. It's Alex Jones type bullshit.

You won't like this answer, but when you have the crookedest POTUS in history it is not a stretch to think he will be investigated by Congress. I'm not sure when you were born, but in my lifetime the majority of POTUS's have had major scandals and people jailed.

Nixon : crook

Ford : worst thing I could find (had to look, I was very young and his administration was notable only for the Watergate Pardons) was this: Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz (R) was asked privately why the party of Lincoln was not able to attract more blacks. Butz replied: "I'll tell you what the coloreds want. It's three things: first, a tight pussy; second, loose shoes; and third, a warm place to shit." Butz resigned soon afterwards on October 4, 1976.[524]

Reagan: IranContra, among other things.

Bush 1: Not much, IranContra pardons, so what.

Clinton: Impeached.

Bush 2: A clusterfvck. Two jailed, Rove damn near got indicted.

Obama: Relatively clean, but his AG was a clusterfvck with that whole Mexican cartel gun thing. But they tried their damnedest to blame Hillary for anything and everything.

Trump: crookedest SOB in history. I mean just personally crooked, he never needed politics to be a crook, unlike Nixon, who probably would have been just a sleazy lawyer without politics.

Six out of eight being investigated....yeah that 4Chan poster you quoted really went out on a limb!
hell of it is, can you imagine the outcry from the liberals and people like yourself when the "crookedest SOB in history" is impeached then reelected in 2020? got damn, it's gone be great, i tell ya. will make the 2016 meltdown pale in comparison.
 
Strange... This does say quid pro quo
yes, yes it does. got him now?

yore too stupid to read the transcript without reading shit into it that isn't there. no way in hell i'm asking you to listen to sondland's testimony without coming up with other shit that's just not there.



 
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You still chanting, "read the transcript"? Have you added the T-shirt to yore wardrobe? It shore is a handsome garment.

I assume we can conclude you'll use this argument no matter how many folks testify there was a quid pro quo.

I read the transcript a few weeks back.... and Trump asks for a investigation into the Bidens.
 
Oh no!!! Hilarious. You are a puppet
Hilarious....I posted a video of Sondland clearly stating the meeting was contingent on an investigation announcement into Burissma.....

I didnt comment because it needed no explanation.... It's very clear.

Perhaps Sondland is the puppet? Or someone totally shut down from facts that go against their beliefs?
 
I read the transcript a few weeks back.... and Trump asks for a investigation into the Bidens.

I believe he says something to the effect of, "maybe you should look into that..."

To prove a "this for that" scenario, it's odd that the Ukraine wasn't even aware of a hold up in the funds. Also, sounds like they (Ukrainians) are denying quid pro quo.

Just because you want so badly for something to be true, that doesn't make it so. You guys have to admit if there was something illegal about what transpired and I don't understand at this point how you would still maintain your argument of quid pro quo, or even the latest attempt, "bribery."
 
You still chanting, "read the transcript"? Have you added the T-shirt to yore wardrobe? It shore is a handsome garment.

I assume we can conclude you'll use this argument no matter how many folks testify there was a quid pro quo.

I read the transcript a few weeks back.... and Trump asks for a investigation into the Bidens.
i'm certain you'll have no issues providing video evidence of other "folks" who have said there was a qpq who were in on the call. chop chop.

you still wear your t-shirts proudly?

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I believe he says something to the effect of, "maybe you should look into that..."

To prove a "this for that" scenario, it's odd that the Ukraine wasn't even aware of a hold up in the funds. Also, sounds like they (Ukrainians) are denying quid pro quo.

Just because you want so badly for something to be true, that doesn't make it so. You guys have to admit if there was something illegal about what transpired and I don't understand at this point how you would still maintain your argument of quid pro quo, or even the latest attempt, "bribery."
don't worry, they'll be back to doubting his health when he makes another trip to the hospital for a routine checkup. oh wait, that just happened . . . routine checkup turned into "heart attack!!"

pssssst, article 25, @Chevy1, ya dumbass.
 
I believe he says something to the effect of, "maybe you should look into that..."

To prove a "this for that" scenario, it's odd that the Ukraine wasn't even aware of a hold up in the funds. Also, sounds like they (Ukrainians) are denying quid pro quo.

Just because you want so badly for something to be true, that doesn't make it so. You guys have to admit if there was something illegal about what transpired and I don't understand at this point how you would still maintain your argument of quid pro quo, or even the latest attempt, "bribery."
So...I guess the transcript is the only piece of evidence available at this time?

You need to recheck when Ukraine knew.

The difference between me and you is I would react the same if this was Obama. It's the behavior....the act.....not the political party.
 
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