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We’ll join for 3 million - bargain!
That may be the only way Doc wins another championship.Marshall should hold out to be the last team to announce intentions. Then once everyone else has canceled we print National Championship tshirts!
We’ll join for 3 million - bargain!
That may be the only way Doc wins another championship.
Ohio state players and coaches have asked to be allowed to play in the SEC this year. ODU has opted out of football for the season.
Ohio state players and coaches have asked to be allowed to play in the SEC this year
Ohio state players and coaches have asked to be allowed to play in the SEC this year. ODU has opted out of football for the season.
Here's what you're not getting. The University Presidents are the ones voting not to play. Most of the ADs, Coaches, and Players want to play, so this is going to be a battle between them. In the end, money talks, and bullshit walks. Big donors will ultimately play a major role in how this all plays out. Michigan anticipated a deficit of $61,000,000 as is, with having no fans. Their AD stated this could ultimately cost them double that amount if games aren't played at all.This makes zero sense... Ohio State reportedly voted not to play at all. They will not be asking to play in the SEC... Now Nebraska asking to play in another conference I could see maybe since they voted to play.
It's not going to matter anyway, the PAC12 is having a presidents meeting tomorrow and they will cancel, then the BIG12 will do the same by the end of the week. The dominoes will fall with the SEC being the last holdouts but ultimately cancelling in a few weeks.
These kids just want a chance.
Reading some of this is really sad now:
https://247sports.com/Article/Ohio-...ning-SEC-if-Big-Ten-cancels-season-150082437/
https://rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2...ate-players-want-to-join-the-sec-this-season/
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...season-theres-no-way-ohio-state-joins-the-sec
These kids just want a chance. Takes some gonads to not give it to them the National Championship chance, Heisman, NFL draft position; the Conference higherups don't want to give it to them.
But the fact is a bubble isn’t possible for college. It would be irresponsible for these teams to send travel parties of hundreds around the country playing one of the most contact sports there is. The players may think they have a choice, but all of the people who they subsequently come in contact with in these college towns and campuses do not.
Why would OSU want to do that? According to Patrick:
"According to Patrick's source, the Big Ten presidents voted, 12-2, to not play this fall. Patrick said only Nebraska and Iowa voted to play."
Vote not to play in the Big10, just to play in the SEC?
So what does the "Contact" sport have to do with people living in towns? The residents are not playing football are they?
Travel party of the hundreds? Stands will most likely be empty to start. The "Travel" party consist of Players, Coaches, Trainers. Might be around 100, but in retrospect very small when it comes to general travelers in ad out of a given town for business or leisure.
You'd have to follow the NHL approach.
Bubble cities. Isolation protocol, even if you are not sick, and rigorous testing.
I'd also say this shouldn't be about money, but thats the entire NCAA's MO to begin with.
You'd probably have to cut the rosters down as well.
Virtual learning and study centers for teams not playing. Teams would play on all weekdays. Very limited outside contact.
The NHL ran like 7,500+ COVID tests since it began over a month ago and, at least since a few days ago, they had either 0 or 2 positive results, depending on who reported.
But...lets just go insane with ideas:
I could see a Round Robin style format to determine the season itself...since entire conferences are in a bubble, teams could get more conference games to make it a full season of 12 games.
Or...
Play 10 games and the top 4, with 2 from each division. Seed based on criteria. 4 team tournaments determine a champion from each conference.
Since some have opted out, and we'll pretend the rest of the G5 is going to play, add them into an multi-team tournament.
SEC/ACC/Big12 Each gets 2 representatives totalling 6. G5 is going to have 4 representatives; AAC, CUSA, MWC, SunBelt.
Top 2 seeds get a bye.
Play on from there.
Each losing team leaves the bubble.
Again...insane...but why not at this point?
You seem to have a lot of time on your hands. I know a couple of contractors looking for day labor. You can meet them tomorrow morning around 6 at the Lowe’s parking lot.
Nah, I have a job I can Telehealth with. I begin around noon and end my day around 5:30
Your mornings are free. 6 am Lowe’s parking lot.
So what’s the play here? Do we wait until there are no cases of covid? Only 2 people a day are positive? No one is giving criteria for returning to normal. It’s all very vague and basically arbitrary. We slowed the spread and didn’t overload the hospitals which was the stated goal at the beginning, then somehow it morphed in to the current animal we have before us.
I really don't think anyone has any idea how to do this. The bubble system does seem to have the best results in terms of positive COVID tests.
Thats why I think college football is going to end up like the MLB, just opening the season with money in mind and absolutely zero plans on how to deal with it.
Also, the conferences not playing and schools wanting to play despite conferences saying no, is going to shake up their connections with one another.
Same with the NCAA and P5, although thats been shaky for a while.
We could see the first step of the P5 breaking off of the NCAA entirely.
There's more to it, apparently one of the reasons the Big 10 and PAC 12 cancelled was evidence of heart damage from COVID. Something like 5 players who had COVID, are having complications from it.
Its all early in whats being said, but COVID hasn't been present for even a year, so new stuff is coming out daily.
So what’s the play here? Do we wait until there are no cases of covid? Only 2 people a day are positive? No one is giving criteria for returning to normal. It’s all very vague and basically arbitrary. We slowed the spread and didn’t overload the hospitals which was the stated goal at the beginning, then somehow it morphed in to the current animal we have before us.
We slowed the spread and avoided hospital overload only to renew the spread and almost overload hospitals again, this time in all the warm weather places people thought the virus would hate. What’s the play, indeed.
After reading this week what the NFL teams are doing (the Bengals are giving all 3 QB their own office, then signed a 4th who will be offsite at all times except at practice... and of course they’ve spent a fortune on other physical alterations and protocols), I became convinced that maybe the P5’s could make this season work with their $36M in TV revenue, but no way we can pull this off from the poor house. But the lack of coordinated leadership from elected officials to the NCAA to our conference is stunning.
It is mind boggling how poorly coordinated the response has been....
Based on what Ive read this morning, the ACC and SEC are being holdouts and essentially going with the "f$(k it" plan and want to play no matter the circumstances (the ACC is reportedly discussing a 6-game division only schedule)... The Big10, Pac12 and MAC are out... The rest of the conferences are still on the fence, with some member schools saying they will not play and others basically demanding to play.
If they would only say that it is racist that the players not be allowed to play this year, the conference leaders would cave in a short time.
almost overload hospitals again,
I was glad to see that the players from across the country are standing up and saying they demand to play. If they would only say that it is racist that the players not be allowed to play this year, the conference leaders would cave in a short time. But maybe they can sway the argument with just their demand that they be allowed to unionize. It will be an exciting few days ahead of us. With ACC and SEC saying they will play, this puts the other P-5 conferences at a disadvantage in many respects, e.g., television revenues, recruiting, fan following, overall popularity, donor support, and media attention.
Not saying this is wrong, but I have not seen this currently. I can also say that, across the nation, hospitals were never overloaded, other than perhaps the hottest spot in NY. In fact, hospitals across the country were placing staff on furlough.
The fact that you can't figure out that the $400,000 we make off our media rights deal will not cover the cost of having a football season with no fans/gameday revenue is mind-boggling
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For us at Marshall, the clear choice if there are going to be no fans allowed (and thus no stadium revenue), is to cancel. As has been stated in a dozen threads over the past month, playing a season with no fans will cost us more money than we will make off media rights revenue
well, maybe we should shut down even more. after all, it is a virus that most people need to go get tested to even know if they have had it or have it. it is very black plague like. if you are under 50, there is a better chance you die of a lightning strike than COVID but by all means, shut down athletics, church, gatherings, and don't open up the schools......but not "peaceful protests" where people are raped and murdered and private and govt property is destroyed.
makes sense to me. we need these libs in power. I mean after seeing every major city controlled by Dems turning into a lawless, violent dumpster fire, why not export that to the rest of the country? the red states are really missing out.
In the 2019 athletic year, Marshall's revenues were...
$9.2m = University Funds/Subsidy
$6.4m = Student Fees
$5.8m = Rights and Licensing
$3.9m = Other
$3.9m = Contributions and Donations
$3.5m = Ticket Sales (All Sports)
Want to correct yourself? or is that "Mind-Boggling"
So you would toss the 83% of the revenue stream for the 13% Ticket Sales?
Is that Comprehendible?
The numbers you posted are MU's total athletics revenue (not just football) and include all rights/licensing (IE merchandising, promotional materials, etc).
Contributions and donations I will guarantee will be down drastically this year,
student fees are potentially going to be refunded,
We have massive budget problems whether football is played or not.