Except for the excitement that most of us attending games are experiencing from watching better players, teamwork and effort than we have seen in many years. I and most are enjoying the ride.We are about the same age, actually I'm a few years younger than you. Anyway, I would be ecstatic if the Herd made the "dance" O N C E . The last time we did was 1987, not within the living memory of MOST people currently alive.
Since then we have had two unrelated NIT first round exits (1988 and 2012) and a couple of these pay to play nothings. Since then we have had eight head coaches, ranging from two from the "hot young coach" meme, who both took the first bus out of town, to retread losers, to complete incompetents, and now are on the second of our "local hero" memes. Since then Division I has added almost 100 more teams and, yet half the Division has made the tournament at least once, including every school we can even argueabaly call a "rival", Morehead State, Ohio, Western Kentucky, even little Miami. Since then WVU, which we forced to play us because we were the superior program for at least 20 prior to the first game, has advanced from a nothing one-bid league to the cusp of national status, so much so that playing us was a waste on their part and a pointless futility on ours. Of the teams that have ever made the tournament we now have the 12th longest streak for not making it again. Since then the Henderson Center has slowly been allowed to decline into a dirty shell of what it should be. Heck, UC is talking about going Div I and I would say they would join the list of dancers before us if they do. All of this in a succession of easy to win leagues organized around football, including our current league which has at least six schools that make no effort at the sport.
Make the dance FIVE TIMES? I would be happy to make the dance ONCE.
As to football. We have the right coach, the right players and the facilities and commitment from the AD and others to be a solid mid-major program. I have optimism about next year and about many years to come. As to basketball, there is no non-delusional reason to expect anything more than what we have seen over and over. This year, next year, or whenever.
I’m done answering your questions until you can answer the ONE I’ve posed to you. So until then- talk to yourself and the others at the senior center.Pullman, what year did a high IQ guy like yourself graduate from Marshall?
No dream, eer fan. A Michigan guy is calling you out as a fraud. Of course, you're not the first eer fan to dress up in green, and more than likely, it's not the only time you've done so. Have you ever considered getting a job?
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Actually in all likelyhood I make more money than you can only dream of sniffing, but I really don’t care about money. Did you want to answer the question I asked you? Why are you a bitch ass Michigander trolling a Marshall Board? Your boyfriend working overtime at Starbucks and you’re out of weed so you’re bored?
man, there sure are a lot of independently wealthy sports fans surfing the net these days. I'll bet he bangs super models too
You pump your chest with your moderator badge on your soap box pontificating about how the realistic folks aren’t entitled to the same things you preach against. God only knows you truly don’t think there’s truly anything exciting about this team. Surely there were Jim Jones followers who said, “you know what, this probably isn’t as great as everyone says it.” The only way you will make me disappear is if you cut me off for pointing out facts. My kid likes Camden Park but that doesn’t mean I have to sugar coat how bad it sucks when he’s able to understand.What are you even talking about?
W-S in no way said anything about the Herd making the dance 5 years in a row. He was using the statement as a hypothetical to illustrate that some people would still not be happy. You inferring the whole “delusions of grandeur” thing is kind of a cheap shot considering it was pretty clear what his point actually was.
And his point is valid. There are people here and on OF that literally disappear when the basketball team goes on a win streak. But when they lose they are out in full force. It’s just obvious to everyone but them. What W-S is referring to, and I agree with whole-heartedly, is that some people are only energized by negativity. Everyone knows where we stand in the grand scheme of basketball. No one is saying that we will be the next Duke or UK. They are simply saying that compared to the long drought we’ve had in basketball and the misery that was coach Herrion’s style, we’re heading in the right direction with a team that’s fun to watch.
And for whatever reason some of you are scared to death that someone might be actually enjoying our team. So under the guise of “I’m just keeping it real,” or, “I’m not wearing green-colored glasses,” you come on hear to p*** in everyone’s Wheaties as though you somehow are more grounded than the rest of the world. No...you’re not. That kind of thinking is what makes a person twist a perfectly harmless and valid statement in order to say they suffer from “delusions of grandeur.” Unlike you of course.
You went to WMU, didn’t you moron?Not wealthy by any means....
Still waiting for Nagging idiot to answer one question. I know he’s senile but I figured he could answer one simple one.
Apparently it is possible to hit 18 3’s and still get blown out by 25....bad day in black rock & hopefully illness played a big part. On to Charlotte...
And just so I stay consistent as I main-line the green kool-aid:
We are 2-1, if we win .66 of the rest of our league schedule I believe we will get a bye. Go Herd!!
You pump your chest with your moderator badge on your soap box pontificating about how the realistic folks aren’t entitled to the same things you preach against. God only knows you truly don’t think there’s truly anything exciting about this team. Surely there were Jim Jones followers who said, “you know what, this probably isn’t as great as everyone says it.” The only way you will make me disappear is if you cut me off for pointing out facts. My kid likes Camden Park but that doesn’t mean I have to sugar coat how bad it sucks when he’s able to understand.
If he thinks your badge is cool, he should see the ones the moderators for the Alumni Only forum wear.Moderator badge? I don't need no stinking badges.
Glad we cleared that up. You divert to that rather than discus the post in its entirety. That about sums up how this board works.Moderator badge? I don't need no stinking badges.
Maryland, Texas A&M along with Memphis are all on next year's schedule. Is that tough enough?The cold douche of Reality.
Advice for moving forward:
If you know anything about basketball (like understanding just how light the non-conference schedule was, but that is past) you see that CUSA has dealt us a hard (by CUSA standards) January and a weak February. When the run of four or five or six wins in a row and the rah-rah media and the know-nothing superfans start spewing idiocy about how the team has "turned a corner" or "really matured" or "has finally jelled" or other such evidence they know nothing about basketball, don't fall for it. When the tournament comes around, and the serious teams come around again, the result will be the same.
Next year, the ground work is already being laid, when the pre-season guides and such start telling you how "this is the year" and touting up all of these guys, don't fall for it.
All you can EVER expect is what you see now. Cheap wins against nominal teams and exposure by good (by CUSA standards) ones.
Go Herd.
Maryland, Texas A&M along with Memphis are all on next year's schedule. Is that tough enough?
Maryland, Texas A&M along with Memphis are all on next year's schedule. Is that tough enough?
Herdmeister, since Memphis is coached by Tubby Smith, just wonder if our former coach, Ron Jirsa, is on Tubby's staff. I know he has been with Tubby at more than one coaching stop. Just thought you might know. I believe since he left MU, Jirsa has been at an assistant at one Big Ten school, IIRC.
Glad we cleared that up. You divert to that rather than discus the post in its entirety. That about sums up how this board works.
You pump your chest with your moderator badge on your soap box pontificating about how the realistic folks aren’t entitled to the same things you preach against. God only knows you truly don’t think there’s truly anything exciting about this team. Surely there were Jim Jones followers who said, “you know what, this probably isn’t as great as everyone says it.” The only way you will make me disappear is if you cut me off for pointing out facts. My kid likes Camden Park but that doesn’t mean I have to sugar coat how bad it sucks when he’s able to understand.
It’s too easy with you guys. Cialis, huh?What in the hell is there to even discus[sic] in your post?
Seriously, this is the kind of mess I expect from a bot posting links to cheap Cialis and discount sports jerseys:
Tubby is at Texas TechHerdmeister, since Memphis is coached by Tubby Smith, just wonder if our former coach, Ron Jirsa, is on Tubby's staff. I know he has been with Tubby at more than one coaching stop. Just thought you might know. I believe since he left MU, Jirsa has been at an assistant at one Big Ten school, IIRC.
What are you even talking about?
W-S in no way said anything about the Herd making the dance 5 years in a row. He was using the statement as a hypothetical to illustrate that some people would still not be happy. You inferring the whole “delusions of grandeur” thing is kind of a cheap shot considering it was pretty clear what his point actually was.
And his point is valid. There are people here and on OF that literally disappear when the basketball team goes on a win streak. But when they lose they are out in full force. It’s just obvious to everyone but them. What W-S is referring to, and I agree with whole-heartedly, is that some people are only energized by negativity. Everyone knows where we stand in the grand scheme of basketball. No one is saying that we will be the next Duke or UK. They are simply saying that compared to the long drought we’ve had in basketball and the misery that was coach Herrion’s style, we’re heading in the right direction with a team that’s fun to watch.
And for whatever reason some of you are scared to death that someone might be actually enjoying our team. So under the guise of “I’m just keeping it real,” or, “I’m not wearing green-colored glasses,” you come on hear to p*** in everyone’s Wheaties as though you somehow are more grounded than the rest of the world. No...you’re not. That kind of thinking is what makes a person twist a perfectly harmless and valid statement in order to say they suffer from “delusions of grandeur.” Unlike you of course.
Well, this thread has veered off course just a smidge! I am 58, but my Dad is almost 82. He was @ Marshall during the beginning years of what we now know is about a 40 year period when Marshall basketball rose to heights not seen before or since. 1948 NAIB small college Natty champs; the 50's when Riv was the HC & we had Walowac, Slack, Greer, Byrd, the gold dust twins (Cebe Price was 1/2 of that duo) ...MAC champs (1) during this period. The great mid-late 60's teams with Stone, D'Antoni, Redd, Allen, Davidson, & others coached by Ellis Johnson. The magical '71-'72 squad that included Mike D, Russell Lee, dearly departed Ty Collins, Randy Knoll, Bill James etc. coached for that single season by Carl Tacy. Pretty solid teams in the interim until the trifecta w/Huck. Evans, Labo, White, Battle, Henry, Skip,Richardson, lots of bigs I am not remembering! Who'da thunk it would be basically 30 more years to get going in the right direction?
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I agree. You should definitely be expelled from the board. Since day one, you've done nothing but make snide trolling remarks. Even in this thread, you attempt to troll my friend from Mt. Hope, Mr. Sweeney. You failed.
How about a few more we we's.
Maryland, Texas A&M along with Memphis are all on next year's schedule. Is that tough enough?
WTH...how did I get into this conversation? Thanks for roses though.
Mr Sweeney (Herdzilla22) from Mt. Hope & Charlotte.....
Been waiting 30 yrs. Considering that i hear very little bitching. Im tired of lets vet them next year bs. Thats what they said last year. LolSam - I get the feeling you are not going to budge. I am 58 years young, but I have listened to "older" fans bitch & moan my entire life about the HERD. You are entitled to your opinions, but that's all they are. The problem with your group of fans is that Marshall could make the Dance 5 years in a row, and what would we hear from you old farts? Nothing. Because that's your M.O. when things are going well (in other words, not according to your gospel). BUT, if the HERD would then tank for a season, all Holy Hell would break loose! I guess if this is the kind of fan you desire to be, go for it. Just don't expect the rest of us to sing Kum-ba-yah with you until our brief time on this rock is up. Peace out, brother!! Go HERD
p.s. it is impossible to be 100% behind the football program, which you admit has underachieved, and 0% behind the b-ball program. The numbers don't jive.
What are you even talking about?
W-S in no way said anything about the Herd making the dance 5 years in a row. He was using the statement as a hypothetical to illustrate that some people would still not be happy. You inferring the whole “delusions of grandeur” thing is kind of a cheap shot considering it was pretty clear what his point actually was.
And his point is valid. There are people here and on OF that literally disappear when the basketball team goes on a win streak. But when they lose they are out in full force. It’s just obvious to everyone but them. What W-S is referring to, and I agree with whole-heartedly, is that some people are only energized by negativity. Everyone knows where we stand in the grand scheme of basketball. No one is saying that we will be the next Duke or UK. They are simply saying that compared to the long drought we’ve had in basketball and the misery that was coach Herrion’s style, we’re heading in the right direction with a team that’s fun to watch.
And for whatever reason some of you are scared to death that someone might be actually enjoying our team. So under the guise of “I’m just keeping it real,” or, “I’m not wearing green-colored glasses,” you come on hear to p*** in everyone’s Wheaties as though you somehow are more grounded than the rest of the world. No...you’re not. That kind of thinking is what makes a person twist a perfectly harmless and valid statement in order to say they suffer from “delusions of grandeur.” Unlike you of course.
You are correct. Thanks for picking up my error. I thought Tubby was still there.Chris Beard is the head coach at Texas Tech now.
GKherd let me be a moxerator for 5 minutes. I will kick pullman and daddypawpaw off the board. Kick their asses for 5 bucks. Pieces of garbage.
I agree 100%!!! I've been trying to say this since summer football camp.
While this place is rather tame when compared to herdfans or the comments section from any MU article posted by HD or any local media on social media, its apparent some can't wait to see MU lose.
Its why I absolutely despise the "I'm cautiously optimistic" approach or the "I think we lose because (insert list of complaints) BUT I hope I am wrong."
It basically means you have no balls if you say that.
You're saying that you want MU to win but will be able to say 'told ya so' if they lose.
Its like WVians have no balls or pride, no balls to pick a side and stick with it, no matter how bad it gets, and no pride to admit they were wrong about something.
Instead, they take the easy way out, they just complain and complain.
You're right, they are not more grounded in the world, but like to believe they are.
A 55 year old MU fan who pisses in everyone's Wheaties, gets hit with optimistic logic, immediately begins to thumb their chest about how long they have followed MU...boring our eyes with great walls of text about their grandparents being there, like we give a damn, and like that helps their argument.
They are not any more grounded than some 18 year old MU fan just entering college...im fact, they are just some 55 yr old jerk fan.
However, I will say, Herrion wasn't as bad as some make him out to be...mainly because he was the first coach in a long time to get us to any meaningful post-season tournament, we took 2nd in the conference when it was substantially more competitive, he beat some decent OOC teams, last guy to beat wvu, and overall, wasn't a bad person. Yes, very eccentric to say the least, but I think he wasn't nearly as bad as DJ.
Hey, Gary'S weeney. I am in Charlotte. Does your attorney need to know what hotel or were you still wanting to back up your physical threats?
I don't believe it was coaching. Peneva, by far our most important player, when out with an injury 4 minutes into the game and that let them have free reign in the paint with their size. After the initial run in the game by WKU, we adjusted with Peneva out, and they only outscored us 78-76 the rest of the way. You could also attribute some of the problems to a stomach flu bug that has hit most of the players on the team in the last two weeks as well as a contributing factor. Its just one loss, so the team needs to put this one behind them and get ready for this week's games on the road.I did not watch the game...they hit 18 trey's and got blown out? That is disgusting, and poor coaching.
There aren't that many hater on Old Fairfield, but this board, HerdNation, is more like the old "Thunder in the Mountains" board than a site MU fans can visit to talk MU sports for free. This board is like a war zone 24-7.Too many haters on OF anymore. Is this just a lot of blowback from Bill Legg resigning?
We just need to lighten up a little and enjoy the next month's recruiting adventures with Doc & Co.
Should be very interesting.
I don't believe it was coaching. Peneva, by far our most important player, when out with an injury 4 minutes into the game and that let them have free reign in the paint with their size. After the initial run in the game by WKU, we adjusted with Peneva out, and they only outscored us 78-76 the rest of the way. You could also attribute some of the problems to a stomach flu bug that has hit most of the players on the team in the last two weeks as well as a contributing factor. Its just one loss, so the team needs to put this one behind them and get ready for this week's games on the road.