Herd Basketball
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Except for the excitement that most of us attending games are experiencing from watching better players, teamwork and effort than we have seen in many years. I and most are enjoying the ride.
I’m done answering your questions until you can answer the ONE I’ve posed to you. So until then- talk to yourself and the others at the senior center.
i love it when eerdiots obsess about little old MU. i smelled eerdiot shit the first time he showed up
man, there sure are a lot of independently wealthy sports fans surfing the net these days. I'll bet he bangs super models too
Not wealthy by any means....
Still waiting for Nagging idiot to answer one question. I know he’s senile but I figured he could answer one simple one.
You pump your chest with your moderator badge on your soap box pontificating about how the realistic folks aren’t entitled to the same things you preach against. God only knows you truly don’t think there’s truly anything exciting about this team. Surely there were Jim Jones followers who said, “you know what, this probably isn’t as great as everyone says it.” The only way you will make me disappear is if you cut me off for pointing out facts. My kid likes Camden Park but that doesn’t mean I have to sugar coat how bad it sucks when he’s able to understand.
Hey guys, so we lost by 25 at home tonight in a conference game, against a rival, with a week to prepare.
So there’s that.
So there’s that.
Apparently it is possible to hit 18 3’s and still get blown out by 25....bad day in black rock & hopefully illness played a big part. On to Charlotte...
And just so I stay consistent as I main-line the green kool-aid:
We are 2-1, if we win .66 of the rest of our league schedule I believe we will get a bye. Go Herd!!
And just so I stay consistent as I main-line the green kool-aid:
We are 2-1, if we win .66 of the rest of our league schedule I believe we will get a bye. Go Herd!!
I did not watch the game...they hit 18 trey's and got blown out? That is disgusting, and poor coaching.
The cold douche of Reality.
Advice for moving forward:
If you know anything about basketball (like understanding just how light the non-conference schedule was, but that is past) you see that CUSA has dealt us a hard (by CUSA standards) January and a weak February. When the run of four or five or six wins in a row and the rah-rah media and the know-nothing superfans start spewing idiocy about how the team has "turned a corner" or "really matured" or "has finally jelled" or other such evidence they know nothing about basketball, don't fall for it. When the tournament comes around, and the serious teams come around again, the result will be the same.
Next year, the ground work is already being laid, when the pre-season guides and such start telling you how "this is the year" and touting up all of these guys, don't fall for it.
All you can EVER expect is what you see now. Cheap wins against nominal teams and exposure by good (by CUSA standards) ones.
Go Herd.
Advice for moving forward:
If you know anything about basketball (like understanding just how light the non-conference schedule was, but that is past) you see that CUSA has dealt us a hard (by CUSA standards) January and a weak February. When the run of four or five or six wins in a row and the rah-rah media and the know-nothing superfans start spewing idiocy about how the team has "turned a corner" or "really matured" or "has finally jelled" or other such evidence they know nothing about basketball, don't fall for it. When the tournament comes around, and the serious teams come around again, the result will be the same.
Next year, the ground work is already being laid, when the pre-season guides and such start telling you how "this is the year" and touting up all of these guys, don't fall for it.
All you can EVER expect is what you see now. Cheap wins against nominal teams and exposure by good (by CUSA standards) ones.
Go Herd.
Moderator badge? I don't need no stinking badges.
If he thinks your badge is cool, he should see the ones the moderators for the Alumni Only forum wear.
Glad we cleared that up. You divert to that rather than discus the post in its entirety. That about sums up how this board works.
Maryland, Texas A&M along with Memphis are all on next year's schedule. Is that tough enough?
You know it won't be. Doesn't fit an agenda.
Herdmeister, since Memphis is coached by Tubby Smith, just wonder if our former coach, Ron Jirsa, is on Tubby's staff. I know he has been with Tubby at more than one coaching stop. Just thought you might know. I believe since he left MU, Jirsa has been at an assistant at one Big Ten school, IIRC.
What in the hell is there to even discus[sic] in your post?
Seriously, this is the kind of mess I expect from a bot posting links to cheap Cialis and discount sports jerseys:
AMEN...AMEN.....Amen...Amen....Amen.....Amen.........WONDERFUL....Post of the century. I love it......
HerdZilla (Sweeney) 22 in Charlotte
W-S....Those were fun days (1965-70) when I was a student at Marshall. The Field House was always sold out....students with names ending in A thru L got into one game.....M thru Z got into the next home game. I was pretty enterprising...I found a nice co-ed that didn't want to go to a basketball game pick up a ticket (I gave her a Big KISS in return), therefore, I saw ALL THE GAMES. My frat brothers (Kappa Alpha Order) perched high into the endzone and found humor in dropping emptied whiskey (Rebel Yell) bottles to the concert floor below. The campus cops never could determine who was dropping the glass missiles.....he he he he.
Going to New York for the NIT (when it was a great tournament since ONLY 16 conference champs made the NCAA tourney) was a lot of fun. We saw Clyde "The Glide" Frazier (So Illinois & NY Knicks fame) play against Dandy Dan D'Antoni. The Huntington Field House [now soccer field] was always rocking and The HERD had classic battles with likes of Ohio & Toledo (bad boys of the MAC). In fact, Marshall had a nice little Holiday Tournament going for a few years....called the Marshall Memorial Tournament (named after The 75)...and attracted some very good teams during December.
1971-72 was magical with Mike D, Russell Lee, et all......the last time Marshall made the Big Dance, first round played in Charlotte where MU "got schooled" by a BIG TCU Horn Frog team. Coach Carl Tacy moved on to Wake Forest and HERD basketball nosed dived until a slick guy from LSU (HUCK's HERD) made his way to Huntington. The Southern Conference Tournament found a home in Asheville, NC and it was always a battle of fans from Marshall & UT-Chattanooga or ETSU. Jon Elmore's dad (Gay) was a great scorer for VMI. Marshall made the Finals a lot, but the bad thing the title games were played on Sunday evening for ESPN coverage and it was a late night returning home with the kids..... having to get a few winks before Monday school and work. Oh, I almost forgot....to show the city of Asheville the impact Mar$hall made on the Tournament.....$2 Bills flooded the city from HERD fans. Many of the business owners were not too happy to receive the $2 bills.....
YES======"Who'da thunk it would be basically 30 more years to get (basketball) in the right direction? Thanks to Coach Dan D'Antoni....Marshall is getting there......
HerdZilla22 (Sweeney) in Charlotte
WTH...how did I get into this conversation? Thanks for roses though.
Mr Sweeney (Herdzilla22) from Mt. Hope & Charlotte.....
I don't know. I would know what the overall strength of schedule is, since the rest of the pre-conference will be MACers and random lower than the MAC one-bid league teams of no merit. And then CUSA.
What I do know, for absolute certainty, is whichever of those three is a close loss, will be the "moral victory", the streak over the cupcakes will be touted as evidence that THIS finally is the year, the bad losses among them will be ignored, the conference schedule will start the cold douche of reality will be applied, the team will bounce around this football league for two months, try to "get hot in the conference tournament and who knows" lose and again the season will end just like the last 30 or so.
Hey, Gary'S weeney. I am in Charlotte. Does your attorney need to know what hotel or were you still wanting to back up your physical threats?
GKherd let me be a moxerator for 5 minutes. I will kick pullman and daddypawpaw off the board. Kick their asses for 5 bucks. Pieces of garbage.
Been waiting 30 yrs. Considering that i hear very little bitching. Im tired of lets vet them next year bs. Thats what they said last year. Lol
I agree 100%!!! I've been trying to say this since summer football camp.
While this place is rather tame when compared to herdfans or the comments section from any MU article posted by HD or any local media on social media, its apparent some can't wait to see MU lose.
Its why I absolutely despise the "I'm cautiously optimistic" approach or the "I think we lose because (insert list of complaints) BUT I hope I am wrong."
It basically means you have no balls if you say that.
You're saying that you want MU to win but will be able to say 'told ya so' if they lose.
Its like WVians have no balls or pride, no balls to pick a side and stick with it, no matter how bad it gets, and no pride to admit they were wrong about something.
Instead, they take the easy way out, they just complain and complain.
You're right, they are not more grounded in the world, but like to believe they are.
A 55 year old MU fan who pisses in everyone's Wheaties, gets hit with optimistic logic, immediately begins to thumb their chest about how long they have followed MU...boring our eyes with great walls of text about their grandparents being there, like we give a damn, and like that helps their argument.
They are not any more grounded than some 18 year old MU fan just entering college...im fact, they are just some 55 yr old jerk fan.
However, I will say, Herrion wasn't as bad as some make him out to be...mainly because he was the first coach in a long time to get us to any meaningful post-season tournament, we took 2nd in the conference when it was substantially more competitive, he beat some decent OOC teams, last guy to beat wvu, and overall, wasn't a bad person. Yes, very eccentric to say the least, but I think he wasn't nearly as bad as DJ.
You are correct. Thanks for picking up my error. I thought Tubby was still there.
I know that you’re butthurt because I simply state facts and call people out. But just because I’m right doesn’t mean I need kicked off. Name one thing I’ve said that was wrong. Yes i know I called out the old farts who cry a lot and justify how bad we are, but that’s not WRONG. I’ll be waiting
I'm not really hating on Herrion so much as I'm saying I didn't personally find his style of play appealing. i just get that image of Kane crossing mid court and looking back at TH while he pulled that paper from his jacket pocket and called a play...which usually meant that the team would spread and Kane would dribble on the wing to ten seconds on the shot clock and then go one on one to the basket. It wasn't innovative and it didn't allow movement, screens, cut backs, etc to create shots.
It depended on our guys being better than their guys. I believe that the reality at schools like Marshall is that our resources and place in the pecking order of big time college sports is such that we aren't going to be able to recruit the type of players on a regular basis that we can just go out and compete with top 15 programs. Herrion had a few good players but I think he had to take his chance with some of the issues that knocked them down to us. And I believe those issues manifested themselves the last season or two he was here.
DD on the other hand runs a system where the sum of the parts are greater than the individual parts. The system creates offense and the style is fun to watch. When he came here I believe that there was a learning curve in recruiting for him, plus...let's be honest...there wasn't a lot about us and our recent history that we could actually sell to get recruits here.
After several years he is slowly creating something attractive that just might elevate the level of recruits. We have players in the top 10 nationally in several categories. The last time I looked we had three of the top four scorers in the conference on our team alone. We played in the championship game the last two years. This is slowly going to increase the talent level. The players we have sitting out and coming in are clearly and definitively better than what he brought in his first two years. And as that talent increases and the holes are filled and depth develops we will get better. If the sum of his parts are truly better than the individual parts, then better players within the system will give us a chance to play at a much higher level.
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Hey Ryan...call me up & we will have a cold beer or two....on me too.....You interviewing for Charlotte football....or for the vacant AD job that Judy Rose is retiring from?
Sweeney in Charlotte
I don't believe it was coaching. Peneva, by far our most important player, when out with an injury 4 minutes into the game and that let them have free reign in the paint with their size. After the initial run in the game by WKU, we adjusted with Peneva out, and they only outscored us 78-76 the rest of the way. You could also attribute some of the problems to a stomach flu bug that has hit most of the players on the team in the last two weeks as well as a contributing factor. Its just one loss, so the team needs to put this one behind them and get ready for this week's games on the road.
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There aren't that many hater on Old Fairfield, but this board, HerdNation, is more like the old "Thunder in the Mountains" board than a site MU fans can visit to talk MU sports for free. This board is like a war zone 24-7.
Weird how people would crucify Doc when the star player is injured during a game and we get blown out...
But when the same thing happens to the basketball team...people tend to look for literally anything to justify it and not attribute it to bad coaching.
The fact it took an entire half to adjust to something, and adjust is a verlynloosely used term because if you were there, you'd see, we didn't adjust.
We have some taller guys out there and they still scored on us at will. We didn't finish shots, not many rebounds, turnovers, and frustrating penalties hurt us.
But in football, thats the coach and players.
In basketball...its the flu.
