How About Some Intelligence?

[riflearm2]

This board has a severe allergy to intelligence, especially when mob mentality kicks in. And mob mentality has definitely kicked in.

Let's review Huff's words which have illogically resulted in so much backlash. He mentioned two things:

1) Marshall not having financial support (NIL money)
2) Marshall fans hating Cam and making him miserable

Let's first look at #1. Is this really any different than what countless other coaches have publicly complained about, including Pruett? Why did Pruett not face this backlash when he made the same complaints? Hell, he threatened to quit if we didn't get better financial support, and nobody reacted like this. One argument made was that Pruett was allowed to do that because he won more games. OK? That still doesn't make Huff's words any less accurate nor is it something terminable, especially since Pruett faced no backlash from fans. Countless other coaches have publicly said that their lack of funding hurts them. This is a nothingburger.

Now, let's look at #2. This board has been full of vile comments towards Cam. Cam's own sister just posted comments about how bad fans were towards her brother. So Huff isn't the only one to observe this. Further, Owen Porter, just weeks ago, voiced his anger towards Marshall fans for them booing the offense. He told fans not to come to the game. So why was that conveniently accepted on here?




Tons of coaches have bashed their own fans. Saban has bashed his fans for lack of attendance:

Saban Unleashes Fan Rant

During his last press conference in preparation for Arkansas, Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban made it clear that he was fed up with the lack of fan support at home games this season. Check out his rant, along with fans getting behind Tua and more. Make sure to follow Devin Jackson on Twitter for...

tdalabamamag.com

Mike Gundy grew a large fanbase by attacking his fans and sticking up for his own quarterback when their fans booed him. I could give a bunch of examples of coachces doing this. 7Yet when Huff does the same and calls out the fans for treating Fancher poorly, he is in the wrong?

Again, we have the team's own leader telling Marshall fans not to come to games due to them booing. Not a peep on here about that. But when the head coach defends one of his guys and said that Marshall fans were bad to him, suddenly the pitchforks come out?

For the record, all of the people who were shown to have complained about Marshall and not faced any backlash were white.
The one who did exactly like others have done, but unlike others, faced backlash, was black.

Subconscious racism. It's the new, modern West Virginia.

 

[herdftblfan]

This board has a severe allergy to intelligence, especially when mob mentality kicks in. And mob mentality has definitely kicked in.

Let's review Huff's words which have illogically resulted in so much backlash. He mentioned two things:

1) Marshall not having financial support (NIL money)
2) Marshall fans hating Cam and making him miserable

Let's first look at #1. Is this really any different than what countless other coaches have publicly complained about, including Pruett? Why did Pruett not face this backlash when he made the same complaints? Hell, he threatened to quit if we didn't get better financial support, and nobody reacted like this. One argument made was that Pruett was allowed to do that because he won more games. OK? That still doesn't make Huff's words any less accurate nor is it something terminable, especially since Pruett faced no backlash from fans. Countless other coaches have publicly said that their lack of funding hurts them. This is a nothingburger.

Now, let's look at #2. This board has been full of vile comments towards Cam. Cam's own sister just posted comments about how bad fans were towards her brother. So Huff isn't the only one to observe this. Further, Owen Porter, just weeks ago, voiced his anger towards Marshall fans for them booing the offense. He told fans not to come to the game. So why was that conveniently accepted on here?

View embedded media

Tons of coaches have bashed their own fans. Saban has bashed his fans for lack of attendance:

Saban Unleashes Fan Rant

During his last press conference in preparation for Arkansas, Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban made it clear that he was fed up with the lack of fan support at home games this season. Check out his rant, along with fans getting behind Tua and more. Make sure to follow Devin Jackson on Twitter for...

tdalabamamag.com

Mike Gundy grew a large fanbase by attacking his fans and sticking up for his own quarterback when their fans booed him. I could give a bunch of examples of coachces doing this. 7Yet when Huff does the same and calls out the fans for treating Fancher poorly, he is in the wrong?

Again, we have the team's own leader telling Marshall fans not to come to games due to them booing. Not a peep on here about that. But when the head coach defends one of his guys and said that Marshall fans were bad to him, suddenly the pitchforks come out?

For the record, all of the people who were shown to have complained about Marshall and not faced any backlash were white.
The one who did exactly like others have done, but unlike others, faced backlash, was black.

Subconscious racism. It's the new, modern West Virginia.

If we're all racist, white morons, why do you continue to post here? Shouldn't you be over here?

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[MUMAN3419]

We get it bro. Your smarter, better looking and you know, rich!

 

[riflearm2]

We get it bro. Your smarter, better looking and you know, rich!

Thanks for proving my point. God, you morons make this so easy.

 

[riflearm2]

If we're all racist, white morons, why do you continue to post here? Shouldn't you be over here?

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I didn't say all. And I think the majority of you who do fit that profile aren't bad people and don't mean to be racist. Again, it's subconsciously. It's why nobody had any problems with other coaches, including at Marshall, criticizing the lack of funding. It's why nobody had any problems with other coaches and players, including a current one at Marshall, criticizing the poor behavior of fans towards Marshall players.

Why did none of those things cause a problem with you? Why was not a peep mentioned about Owen Porter being much harsher and telling fans not to come to the game yet when Huff protected his player from those fans, he is lynched?

I know the answer. And you, when you start to truly think about it, do too.

And shouldn't you be over here? This is the program, when they were in the same conference as Marshall, that you used to help "organize" their recruiting and give recruiting info to while owning this message board:

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[ThunderCat98]

This board has a severe allergy to intelligence, especially when mob mentality kicks in. And mob mentality has definitely kicked in.

Let's review Huff's words which have illogically resulted in so much backlash. He mentioned two things:

1) Marshall not having financial support (NIL money)
2) Marshall fans hating Cam and making him miserable

Let's first look at #1. Is this really any different than what countless other coaches have publicly complained about, including Pruett? Why did Pruett not face this backlash when he made the same complaints? Hell, he threatened to quit if we didn't get better financial support, and nobody reacted like this. One argument made was that Pruett was allowed to do that because he won more games. OK? That still doesn't make Huff's words any less accurate nor is it something terminable, especially since Pruett faced no backlash from fans. Countless other coaches have publicly said that their lack of funding hurts them. This is a nothingburger.

Now, let's look at #2. This board has been full of vile comments towards Cam. Cam's own sister just posted comments about how bad fans were towards her brother. So Huff isn't the only one to observe this. Further, Owen Porter, just weeks ago, voiced his anger towards Marshall fans for them booing the offense. He told fans not to come to the game. So why was that conveniently accepted on here?

View embedded media

Tons of coaches have bashed their own fans. Saban has bashed his fans for lack of attendance:

Saban Unleashes Fan Rant

During his last press conference in preparation for Arkansas, Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban made it clear that he was fed up with the lack of fan support at home games this season. Check out his rant, along with fans getting behind Tua and more. Make sure to follow Devin Jackson on Twitter for...

tdalabamamag.com

Mike Gundy grew a large fanbase by attacking his fans and sticking up for his own quarterback when their fans booed him. I could give a bunch of examples of coachces doing this. 7Yet when Huff does the same and calls out the fans for treating Fancher poorly, he is in the wrong?

Again, we have the team's own leader telling Marshall fans not to come to games due to them booing. Not a peep on here about that. But when the head coach defends one of his guys and said that Marshall fans were bad to him, suddenly the pitchforks come out?

For the record, all of the people who were shown to have complained about Marshall and not faced any backlash were white.
The one who did exactly like others have done, but unlike others, faced backlash, was black.

Subconscious racism. It's the new, modern West Virginia.

Some fair points. However, you're completely ignoring the fact that the player's mom claims Huff also lied in this same statement by saying Fancher was "miserable." Why ignore that part? Maybe because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Moreover, your claims that this is racially motivated and a Marshall/WV issue is just complete bullshit, and you know it. Apparently you have never been on any SEC, Big 10, or Big 12 message boards following a football or basketball loss, or listen to their call-in shows. Shit posted here is mild compared to the grief those players and coaches get.

Now, does that make it morally right? Not in the least. Is criticism of players and/or coaches a Marshall-centric problem? Also no.

 

[Jartard]

Some fair points. However, you're completely ignoring the fact that the player's mom claims Huff also lied in this same statement by saying Fancher was "miserable." Why ignore that part? Maybe because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Moreover, your claims that this is racially motivated and a Marshall/WV issue is just complete bullshit, and you know it. Apparently you have never been on any SEC, Big 10, or Big 12 message boards following a football or basketball loss, or listen to their call-in shows. Shit posted here is mild compared to the grief those players and coaches get.

Now, does that make it morally right? Not in the least. Is criticism of players and/or coaches a Marshall-centric problem? Also no.

The mom appears white or at least light skinned. I’m also assuming she’s subconsciously racist. 🤣

 

[MUMAN3419]

Thanks for proving my point. God, you morons make this so easy.

Grammar smack? Laaame

 

[riflearm2]

Some fair points. However, you're completely ignoring the fact that the player's mom claims Huff also lied in this same statement by saying Fancher was "miserable." Why ignore that part? Maybe because it doesn't fit your narrative.

So let's do some critical thinking:
1) We all have seen how Fancher is talked about by fans
2) We all have seen how Fancher is booed during the games
3) Fancher's sister makes very direct comments about the impact the Marshall fans have had on her and her family due to how they treat Fancher
4) The leader of the team publicly bashed Marshall fans for their treatment of Fancher (yes, he politely said "the offense" instead of Fancher)
5) The Marshall head coach, who has no reason to defend a player who is leaving, defends him and says that he was miserable due to the fan treatment of him

6) Fancher's mom said that he wasn't miserable and that is false.

Now, logically, considering 1-5 above, I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that he didn't like his life at Marshall over the last year. So why would Fancher's mom contradict her own daughther, what we have all seen on here and at games, the leader of the team, and the coach? Maybe because she knows other programs don't want a kid who can't handle booing, is bringing baggage, etc.

How else do you explain 1-5 above?

 

[herdfan429]

This board has a severe allergy to intelligence, especially when mob mentality kicks in. And mob mentality has definitely kicked in.

Let's review Huff's words which have illogically resulted in so much backlash. He mentioned two things:

1) Marshall not having financial support (NIL money)
2) Marshall fans hating Cam and making him miserable

Let's first look at #1. Is this really any different than what countless other coaches have publicly complained about, including Pruett? Why did Pruett not face this backlash when he made the same complaints? Hell, he threatened to quit if we didn't get better financial support, and nobody reacted like this. One argument made was that Pruett was allowed to do that because he won more games. OK? That still doesn't make Huff's words any less accurate nor is it something terminable, especially since Pruett faced no backlash from fans. Countless other coaches have publicly said that their lack of funding hurts them. This is a nothingburger.

Now, let's look at #2. This board has been full of vile comments towards Cam. Cam's own sister just posted comments about how bad fans were towards her brother. So Huff isn't the only one to observe this. Further, Owen Porter, just weeks ago, voiced his anger towards Marshall fans for them booing the offense. He told fans not to come to the game. So why was that conveniently accepted on here?

View embedded media

Tons of coaches have bashed their own fans. Saban has bashed his fans for lack of attendance:

Saban Unleashes Fan Rant

During his last press conference in preparation for Arkansas, Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban made it clear that he was fed up with the lack of fan support at home games this season. Check out his rant, along with fans getting behind Tua and more. Make sure to follow Devin Jackson on Twitter for...

tdalabamamag.com

Mike Gundy grew a large fanbase by attacking his fans and sticking up for his own quarterback when their fans booed him. I could give a bunch of examples of coachces doing this. 7Yet when Huff does the same and calls out the fans for treating Fancher poorly, he is in the wrong?

Again, we have the team's own leader telling Marshall fans not to come to games due to them booing. Not a peep on here about that. But when the head coach defends one of his guys and said that Marshall fans were bad to him, suddenly the pitchforks come out?

For the record, all of the people who were shown to have complained about Marshall and not faced any backlash were white.
The one who did exactly like others have done, but unlike others, faced backlash, was black.

Subconscious racism. It's the new, modern West Virginia.

There was plenty of backlash to porters comments

 

[redsfan5590]

This board has a severe allergy to intelligence, especially when mob mentality kicks in. And mob mentality has definitely kicked in.

Let's review Huff's words which have illogically resulted in so much backlash. He mentioned two things:

1) Marshall not having financial support (NIL money)
2) Marshall fans hating Cam and making him miserable

Let's first look at #1. Is this really any different than what countless other coaches have publicly complained about, including Pruett? Why did Pruett not face this backlash when he made the same complaints? Hell, he threatened to quit if we didn't get better financial support, and nobody reacted like this. One argument made was that Pruett was allowed to do that because he won more games. OK? That still doesn't make Huff's words any less accurate nor is it something terminable, especially since Pruett faced no backlash from fans. Countless other coaches have publicly said that their lack of funding hurts them. This is a nothingburger.

Now, let's look at #2. This board has been full of vile comments towards Cam. Cam's own sister just posted comments about how bad fans were towards her brother. So Huff isn't the only one to observe this. Further, Owen Porter, just weeks ago, voiced his anger towards Marshall fans for them booing the offense. He told fans not to come to the game. So why was that conveniently accepted on here?

View embedded media

Tons of coaches have bashed their own fans. Saban has bashed his fans for lack of attendance:

Saban Unleashes Fan Rant

During his last press conference in preparation for Arkansas, Alabama Head Coach Nick Saban made it clear that he was fed up with the lack of fan support at home games this season. Check out his rant, along with fans getting behind Tua and more. Make sure to follow Devin Jackson on Twitter for...

tdalabamamag.com

Mike Gundy grew a large fanbase by attacking his fans and sticking up for his own quarterback when their fans booed him. I could give a bunch of examples of coachces doing this. 7Yet when Huff does the same and calls out the fans for treating Fancher poorly, he is in the wrong?

Again, we have the team's own leader telling Marshall fans not to come to games due to them booing. Not a peep on here about that. But when the head coach defends one of his guys and said that Marshall fans were bad to him, suddenly the pitchforks come out?

For the record, all of the people who were shown to have complained about Marshall and not faced any backlash were white.
The one who did exactly like others have done, but unlike others, faced backlash, was black.

Subconscious racism. It's the new, modern West Virginia.

You are such a likable, well adjusted, human being.

 

[riflearm2]

Grammar smack? Laaame

When you try mocking me for my claim that I am far superior in intelligence, it's entirely understandable why you'd be mocked for not being able to form a grammatically correct sentence, moron.

 

[riflearm2]

You are such a likable, well adjusted, human being.

I'm not here to win an election. I am here to try and bring some intelligence, ethics, and guidance to you morons.

 

[redsfan5590]

I'm not here to win an election. I am here to try and bring some intelligence, ethics, and guidance to you morons.

Well, like your coaching career…. It’s not going well, so move on

 

[riflearm2]

There was plenty of backlash to porters comment

Yeah, all three comments were really scathing.

 

[herdfella]

Why is the lack of NIL money not a problem being addressed publicly by other coaches at Marshall? All they have to do is call WOWK, WSAZ or even the HD, they would have the same opportunity as Huff to lay out the excuse. Why isn’t Grassie losing his players to other schools? Are his players miserable because the lack of racial sensitivities in this area?
Dantoni lost players to big school, it happens. Kinsey stuck around, was good enough on the court and had the personality to get a little bit of NIL coin while he was at it. As Bsnker mentioned in another thread, no one is keeping the players from sourcing their own opportunities, however, they have to bring something to the table other than simply wearing the uniform.
IMO, talent and/or wins lead to these players getting NIL. Ali is driving a Benz and eats free in two of the better restaurants in town. Don’t hear Huff bitching about that.

 

[riflearm2]

Well, like your coaching career…. It’s not going well, so move on

Oh, this failed attempt again.

- Every single starter in my position rooms who finished his eligibility signed and NFL or CFL deal.
- Had a conference offensive player of the year.
- Led multiple #1 conference recruiting rankings and at least two top 25 national recruiting classes.
- Have multiple conference championship rings and a black college national championship ring.
- Was invited to work with the top college QBs in the country at the most prestigious QB camp for college QBs.
- Was invited to spend two weeks as a guest coach with the Miami Dolphins.
- Was brought up by Matt Rhule last December to Lincoln to try and talk me into joining his program.

 

[ThunderCat98]

So let's do some critical thinking:
1) We all have seen how Fancher is talked about by fans
2) We all have seen how Fancher is booed during the games
3) Fancher's sister makes very direct comments about the impact the Marshall fans have had on her and her family due to how they treat Fancher
4) The leader of the team publicly bashed Marshall fans for their treatment of Fancher (yes, he politely said "the offense" instead of Fancher)
5) The Marshall head coach, who has no reason to defend a player who is leaving, defends him and says that he was miserable due to the fan treatment of him

6) Fancher's mom said that he wasn't miserable and that is false.

Now, logically, considering 1-5 above, I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that he didn't like his life at Marshall over the last year. So why would Fancher's mom contradict her own daughther, what we have all seen on here and at games, the leader of the team, and the coach? Maybe because she knows other programs don't want a kid who can't handle booing, is bringing baggage, etc.

How else do you explain 1-5 above?

Ooh! Let's do some more "critical thinking" analysis!

All fanbases for every school in the fvcking country bitches about coaches and individual players, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, etc. This happens to a greater extent at bigger schools where fans expect to win.

However, this is evidence of systemic racism only when it happens at Marshall.
Or is it proof of systemic racism everywhere - even when the player or coach in question is white?

Kritkul thanking is fun.

 

[redsfan5590]

Oh, this failed attempt again.

- Every single starter in my position rooms who finished his eligibility signed and NFL or CFL deal.
- Had a conference offensive player of the year.
- Led multiple #1 conference recruiting rankings and at least two top 25 national recruiting classes.
- Have multiple conference championship rings and a black college national championship ring.
- Was invited to work with the top college QBs in the country at the most prestigious QB camp for college QBs.
- Was invited to spend two weeks as a guest coach with the Miami Dolphins.
- Was brought up by Matt Rhule last December to Lincoln to try and talk me into joining his program.

I’m almost impre…. No I can’t lie, I do not care. Cool though I guess! You’re a regular coaching celebrity. And you still find time to come talk to us hillfolk from the woods of West Virginia and teach us how we’re racist without even knowing it! And we ain’t learned no proper edumucashun! And we just simple folk who shud appreciate that Ne 1 would wanna come play or coach at our little school.

Thanks all you do.

 

[riflearm2]

Ooh! Let's do some more "critical thinking" analysis!

All fanbases for every school in the fvcking country bitches about coaches and individual players, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, etc. This happens to a greater extent at bigger schools where fans expect to win.

However, this is evidence of systemic racism only when it happens at Marshall.
Or is it proof of systemic racism everywhere - even when the player or coach in question is white?

Kritkul thanking is fun.

Well, now you are changing the topic.

First, you were debating the merits of Huff's claim about Fancher being miserable. Based on 1-5 that I listed, it seems more likely that he wasn't loving it at Marshall, hence why he is leaving.

It appears that you threw in the towel on that argument and now want to talk about the racial aspect.

No, it isn't Marshall exclusive. It is systemic. Of course, different areas will have differing degrees of it. But as I said before, significant data shows that black coaches are given less time compared to their equally as successful/unsuccessful white peers.

 

[riflearm2]

I’m almost impre….

Imbred. I think you were going with "imbred." You were close. I can see how "p" and "b" could be confusing.

 

[herdfan429]

Everyone remember that rifle loves playing the race card when it benefits him. Like getting canned from an hbcu

 

[redsfan5590]

Imbred. I think you were going with "imbred." You were close. I can see how "p" and "b" could be confusing.

Do you get some type of community service hours for working with us on here? Or is it just out of the goodness of that golden heart of yours?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

FWIW, I thought Porter was out of line. That's the coach's job. It's also the coach's job to have the maturity and intelligence to word what he says a certain way. Huff didn't...probably because he's miserable here too, not meeting expectations will do that.

Apparently you have never been on any SEC, Big 10, or Big 12 message boards following a football or basketball loss, or listen to their call-in shows. Shit posted here is mild compared to the grief those players and coaches get.

I've spent my life listening to call in shows for three of the biggest college basketball programs. This shit here is mild, for sure.

Maybe because she knows other programs don't want a kid who can't handle booing

And maybe that's because stinking up the joint will get you booed at any program worth playing for?

 

[herdfella]

I’d also like to add the what Porter said was moronic. He was emotional because they were getting their ass kicked, and I like the emotion, but his coaches - his mentors -should have encouraged him to focus his emotions in a more constructive way or idk, hold your teammates accountable for. It showing up. Chastising fans show’s immaturity and after what has happened the last 24 hours it’s likely Porter may have actually been given the green light to go at the fans by his head coach. As a fan that was actually at the game (unlike some on here), the booing that came raining down was absolutely directed at the coaching decision(s) in the first half and specifically the last 1:30 in the half.
Troy is winning Championships with a 2/3 empty stadium at the actual Championship game. Imagine how difficult Huff would find it to be there.

 

[riflearm2]

Everyone remember that rifle loves playing the race card when it benefits him. Like getting canned from an hbcu

Nope. Their argument wasn't that I got fired. It wasn't that I left due to not getting paid. It was that it was the end of my contract (many months ahead of the actual contract). Try again, pediatric body rubber.

FWIW, I thought Porter was out of line.

Can you point me to all of the posts you made about that? Hell, I will settle for you posting me to posts from others calling him out (hint: There are very few).

I've spent my life listening to call in shows for three of the biggest college basketball programs. This shit here is mild, for sure.

And maybe that's because stinking up the joint will get you booed at any program worth playing for?

So you'd agree that he would be pretty miserable if all he received was booing and negativity from the fans?

 

[whf2]

So let's do some critical thinking:
1) We all have seen how Fancher is talked about by fans
2) We all have seen how Fancher is booed during the games
3) Fancher's sister makes very direct comments about the impact the Marshall fans have had on her and her family due to how they treat Fancher
4) The leader of the team publicly bashed Marshall fans for their treatment of Fancher (yes, he politely said "the offense" instead of Fancher)
5) The Marshall head coach, who has no reason to defend a player who is leaving, defends him and says that he was miserable due to the fan treatment of him

6) Fancher's mom said that he wasn't miserable and that is false.

Now, logically, considering 1-5 above, I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that he didn't like his life at Marshall over the last year. So why would Fancher's mom contradict her own daughther, what we have all seen on here and at games, the leader of the team, and the coach? Maybe because she knows other programs don't want a kid who can't handle booing, is bringing baggage, etc.

How else do you explain 1-5 above?

I agree, let's do some critical thinking. None of this matters, the issue isn't whether Cam felt anything, or what he did about it; the "Critical Issue" is that Huff was dumb enough to say what he said to the media.

 

[herdfella]

So you'd agree that he would be pretty miserable if all he received was booing and negativity from the fans?

Oh come on. You are better than this. The fans cheered for him any time there was any iota of success. The young man wasn’t boo’d after throwing TD’s . You are grasping.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Can you point me to all of the posts you made about that?

Nope, because I haven't posted much about football this season, because it's been disappointing. And I've developed a nasty habit of watching Big 12 football.

And I'm not even mad Huff said it...I'm disappointed in how he said it. I'd have went with, "This young man has done everything we have asked of him. It's been a disappointing season for him, he's personally disappointed, it's been disappointing for the fans, we didn't meet our goals as a team, and a lot of that is on us, the coaches."

Again, the NIL stuff is a different topic. Huff can bitch all he wants, it won't change that this is a poor town and the meager NIL opportunities are going to flow to the couple highest profile, high performers. It is what it is.

So you'd agree that he would be pretty miserable if all he received was booing and negativity from the fans?

Nope. That's on his own personal outlook, confidence in himself, and the thickness of his skin. Does that sound harsh? Yep. Life is harsh. Thankfully and rightfully, players can now go somewhere else if they think it will be a better situation.

Like I've said on here before, I respect Cam. I think he's tough. He seems to be a good young man. This does not guarantee shit will go your way, that's sports and life. I wish him well.

 

[riflearm2]

I agree, let's do some critical thinking. None of this matters, the issue isn't whether Cam felt anything, or what he did about it; the "Critical Issue" is that Huff was dumb enough to say what he said to the media.

Then why do all of the other coaches who do the same, including one who was at Marshall, get a free pass from you?

 

[GeauxHerd]

Some fair points. However, you're completely ignoring the fact that the player's mom claims Huff also lied in this same statement by saying Fancher was "miserable." Why ignore that part? Maybe because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Moreover, your claims that this is racially motivated and a Marshall/WV issue is just complete bullshit, and you know it. Apparently you have never been on any SEC, Big 10, or Big 12 message boards following a football or basketball loss, or listen to their call-in shows. Shit posted here is mild compared to the grief those players and coaches get.

Now, does that make it morally right? Not in the least. Is criticism of players and/or coaches a Marshall-centric problem? Also no.

To add on, Owen porter is actually good too. So was Cato. Neither of those guys got booed. And to be fair, I think most fans were booing huff/Trickett scheme etc and not so much Fancher. Plenty of people also hated on Chris Rippon in Docs early years. He’s a cracker. People also heavily criticized KO marcum. He’s on team White. So I think Marshall has a history of cheering on success(regardless of race) and being negative/boo poor performance (regardless of race)

 

[MU PIKE]

Fancher received the Grant Wells treatment. I wonder what happens if Cole starts and bombs next year.

 

[herd4life5 (HN)]

This board has a severe allergy to intelligence, especially when mob mentality kicks in. And mob mentality has definitely kicked in.

Let's review Huff's words which have illogically resulted in so much backlash. He mentioned two things:

1) Marshall not having financial support (NIL money)
2) Marshall fans hating Cam and making him miserable

Let's first look at #1. Is this really any different than what countless other coaches have publicly complained about, including Pruett? Why did Pruett not face this backlash when he made the same complaints? Hell, he threatened to quit if we didn't get better financial support, and nobody reacted like this. One argument made was that Pruett was allowed to do that because he won more games. OK? That still doesn't make Huff's words any less accurate nor is it something terminable, especially since Pruett faced no backlash from fans. Countless other coaches have publicly said that their lack of funding hurts them. This is a nothingburger.

Now, let's look at #2. This board has been full of vile comments towards Cam. Cam's own sister just posted comments about how bad fans were towards her brother. So Huff isn't the only one to observe this. Further, Owen Porter, just weeks ago, voiced his anger towards Marshall fans for them booing the offense. He told fans not to come to the game. So why was that conveniently accepted on here?

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Tons of coaches have bashed their own fans. Saban has bashed his fans for lack of attendance:

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Mike Gundy grew a large fanbase by attacking his fans and sticking up for his own quarterback when their fans booed him. I could give a bunch of examples of coachces doing this. 7Yet when Huff does the same and calls out the fans for treating Fancher poorly, he is in the wrong?

Again, we have the team's own leader telling Marshall fans not to come to games due to them booing. Not a peep on here about that. But when the head coach defends one of his guys and said that Marshall fans were bad to him, suddenly the pitchforks come out?

For the record, all of the people who were shown to have complained about Marshall and not faced any backlash were white.
The one who did exactly like others have done, but unlike others, faced backlash, was black.

Subconscious racism. It's the new, modern West Virginia.

I would think the issue is more about the time in which it was said. Financial support, to me, was directly related to NIL, not overall financial support. At least that is how I took the statement. That obviously wouldn’t have applied to our other coaches. There’s a difference between calling out fans for attendance issues or booing and the saying a fanbase HATED an individual player.

It’s easy to deduce why the things he said were harmful for this day and age while the other things you mentioned were acceptable

 

[MUMAN3419]

When you try mocking me for my claim that I am far superior in intelligence, it's entirely understandable why you'd be mocked for not being able to form a grammatically correct sentence, moron.

Oh sir. Your hehe too easy.

 

[mlblack16.]

Fancher received the Grant Wells treatment. I wonder what happens if Cole starts and bombs next year.

Same shit. You think fans are ever ok with losing? The anger and disappointment transcends race, despite what you or Rifle may pretend/believe.

And Grant Wells wasn't liked by his own teammates in addition to being a head case out on the field. He would look like a Heisman QB one game then do completely terrible the next. He thought the grass would be greener at VA Tech then couldn't perform there either. You think the fanbase just gave him good game pats and said, "that's okay kud, at least you tried."

Inconsistency like that is probably worse than someone being consistently mediocre. At least with the latter we know that's their ceiling.

 

[herdftblfan]

Why did none of those things cause a problem with you? Why was not a peep mentioned about Owen Porter being much harsher and telling fans not to come to the game yet when Huff protected his player from those fans, he is lynched?

I know the answer. And you, when you start to truly think about it, do too.

And shouldn't you be over here? This is the program, when they were in the same conference as Marshall, that you used to help "organize" their recruiting and give recruiting info to while owning this message board:

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All us poor, uneducated, racist white folks are just so grateful for your enlightenment, rifle. Without you, we wouldn't even know we're moronic bigots subconsciously fixated on hating minorities. But only poor-performing minorities, right? We are okay with the Byrons and Johnathons of the world. We let them come to our tailgates, break bread with us, and have a seat at the main table.

Side Note: You remind me of George Santos. Your narcissism and mental health issues bring great entertainment value to your posts (and this site) but they also demonstrate a blind spot and clear disconnect with reality. Based on your last post, it also looks like you might be struggling with cognitive and memory issues which worries me. You should talk with someone professionally.

 

[i am herdman]

All us poor, uneducated, racist white folks are just so grateful for your enlightenment, rifle. Without you, we wouldn't even know we're moronic bigots subconsciously fixated on hating minorities. But only poor-performing minorities, right? We are okay with the Byrons and Johnathons of the world. We let them come to our tailgates, break bread with us, and have a seat at the main table.

Side Note: You remind me of George Santos. Your narcissism and mental health issues bring great entertainment value to your posts (and this site) but they also demonstrate a blind spot and clear disconnect with reality. Based on your last post, it also looks like you might be struggling with cognitive and memory issues which worries me. You should talk with someone professionally.

rifle is from Appalachia, just like us.

 

[19MU88]

Oh, this failed attempt again.

- Every single starter in my position rooms who finished his eligibility signed and NFL or CFL deal.
- Had a conference offensive player of the year.
- Led multiple #1 conference recruiting rankings and at least two top 25 national recruiting classes.
- Have multiple conference championship rings and a black college national championship ring.
- Was invited to work with the top college QBs in the country at the most prestigious QB camp for college QBs.
- Was invited to spend two weeks as a guest coach with the Miami Dolphins.
- Was brought up by Matt Rhule last December to Lincoln to try and talk me into joining his program.

 

[riflearm2]

Without you, we wouldn't even know we're moronic bigots subconsciously

Look at that! See, you aren’t completely hopeless. I educated you of the difference in meanings, and you retained it and used the proper one.

It’s examples like that why I continue to stick around here. I do see progression in some of you morons from my teachings. People like 1988? There’s no hope, so I don’t waste my time.

. But only poor-performing minorities, right? We are okay with the Byrons and Johnathons of the world. .

Well, yeah. I’m comfortable saying that the biggest percentage of racists today isn’t the outspoken and vocal racist. It’s subtle racism. Subconscious racism. White privilege racism (see coaching examples I have previously referenced).

Side Note: You remind me of George Santos. Your narcissism and mental health issues bring great entertainment value to your posts (and this site) but

There are numerous people who have spent substantial time with you in person who messaged me over the years describing your issues and why they don’t associate with you. Let me know if you’d like screenshots.

On the other hand, you won’t find a single person who has spent substantial time with me in person who makes the claims that you do or who will say the things about me that people have unsolicitedly told me about you, Rocky.

Based on your last post, it also looks like you might be struggling with cognitive and memory issues which worries me.

My claim about what you did for a conference school is accurate. Again, I have screenshots of your own words to me about it while you were boasting.

 

[MU PIKE]

Same shit. You think fans are ever ok with losing? The anger and disappointment transcends race, despite what you or Rifle may pretend/believe.

transcends race? That’s out of left field. I said nothing about nor insinuated anything about race. Please don’t project any personal demons you have on me.