Looks like another AAC school will get beatdown in a bowl game
Temple is currently losing to Wake 31-7 in the second quarter
Temple is currently losing to Wake 31-7 in the second quarter
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The MAC isn't doing very good either. Like it or not, C-USA gets no respect but has had the better bowl record than AAU and our former conference mate
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
AAC contract, signed when ESPN was flush with $$, expires after the 2019 season. Then it, with teams FAR less popular than CUSA's, gets one singed in the new cordcutter reality.
Heck, even CUSA fans get confused sometimes...This may be argued until the end of time ,many around the nation believe CUSA to be an FCS conference - happens all the time when discussing sports with others who have graduated from FBS schools , they seriously do not pay attention to the schools in CUSA , can not name most of the schools within CUSA and are not aware that CUSA is actully a FBS league. And once you begin to list the schools in CUSA it really solidifies the image as many think teams like ODU Richmond etc are still FCS schools.
The big problem with C-USA and the AAC is the same - they are non-geographical conferences filled with teams with limited regional interest (usually not the top team in their own city), playing each other in games that have no real context even for the fans of those schools.
It's a model that yields very little in terms of growth potential. Marshall and UTEP can play 1,000 times, it will never matter to anybody in Huntington or El Paso, much less the rest of the country. Hell, you had UConn's coach inventing a rivalry trophy with UCF because he needed something in conference play to motivate his players.
This model worked in the 90's for schools like Louisville and Cincinnati, but it doesn't work today for North Texas or Marshall. Say what you will about the MAC, you at least know 1-2 graduates of MAC schools.
Heck, even CUSA fans get confused sometimes...
None of those fans were there to see Marshall, especially not the '05 iteration.Marshall first game at UTEP was a Stadium record for UTEP I believe. People care when their team doesnt suck
You really did write that the AAC has teams less popular than CUSA? Just look at game attendance, national perception, money and tv numbers. We get that you hate the AAC, but this is a ridiculous statement with not merit. AAC has many schools that will command from ESPN if not more money at the least the same money when the contract is up in a few years. ESPN bases paydays on tv numbers, perception and fan base strength.
Losing Bowls is only criteria, don't let your hate fool you into thinking the AAC is the league Marshall needs to strive for.
None of those fans were there to see Marshall, especially not the '05 iteration.
I will give you that C-USA is struggling to re brand itself. I don't think we are considered a FCS conference though. Even though I agree the AAC is a better conference for goodness sake it isn't the ACC it is the AAC. Schools like Tulane and SMU may have better curb appeal than ODU or WKU but are they any better in reality? At the end of the day the G5 have all been passed over and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. UH is currently on a roll but the have nowhere to go. So once the current contracts end it will be interesting to see what kind of deal the AAC gets from ESPN going forward.This may be argued until the end of time ,many around the nation believe CUSA to be an FCS conference - happens all the time when discussing sports with others who have graduated from FBS schools , they seriously do not pay attention to the schools in CUSA , can not name most of the schools within CUSA and are not aware that CUSA is actully a FBS league. And once you begin to list the schools in CUSA it really solidifies the image as many think teams like ODU Richmond etc are still FCS schools.
On the other hand , AAC schools (Houston , UConn , Cincy , Temple, SMU ,Memphis etc people know those as well as see them on ESPN with regularity vs the once in a blue moon game that Marshall will be involved in on an actual network that is not regional or CBSCS.
It's the old identity issue and CUSA is identified as a low level FCS conference thanks much in part to the programs that were brought in to replace all those that left for the AAC as an example.
Nah, they claimed a sell out in the 2007 season against New Mexico State. Photographic evidence would indicate that maybe their attendance figures from the mid-2000's are somewhat suspect.Considering that has been their highest attended game since that game not involving Texas Tech or UT I would say they came out to see Marshall
exactly, and we were in year one of Snyder....our brand was still good and we were coming off a bowl season. Also we went into that game at 3-3 after booting the Kstate game and should have been 4-2. herdlicous is trying to apply hindsight as to what was in the crowds mind that day. and, he is mistaken.Considering that has been their highest attended game since that game not involving Texas Tech or UT I would say they came out to see Marshall
Did he really say Richmond?
completelyThis may be argued until the end of time ,many around the nation believe CUSA to be an FCS conference - happens all the time when discussing sports with others who have graduated from FBS schools , they seriously do not pay attention to the schools in CUSA , can not name most of the schools within CUSA and are not aware that CUSA is actully a FBS league. And once you begin to list the schools in CUSA it really solidifies the image as many think teams like ODU Richmond etc are still FCS schools.
On the other hand , AAC schools (Houston , UConn , Cincy , Temple, SMU ,Memphis etc people know those as well as see them on ESPN with regularity vs the once in a blue moon game that Marshall will be involved in on an actual network that is not regional or CBSCS.
It's the old identity issue and CUSA is identified as a low level FCS conference thanks much in part to the programs that were brought in to replace all those that left for the AAC as an example.
I remember that game, was televised on national TV, OMG the Snyder suck show had us plastered by Mike Price that game. It was SOLD out, no arguing that.Damn sold out that 2005 UTEP game 51,500 which is a capacity crowd for the Sun Bowl
Im not sure anything would have changed what has happened. ESPN at the time was low balling CUSA, mainly because they figured they had the upper hand. CSTV came along as a start up and offered way more money. Yeah it did hurt exposure a bit, but CUSA wasn't the only conference to abandon ESPN at the time, the MWC did the same thing for the same reason. Money rules the roost. If things were perfect, we would have been apart of CUSA 1.0 as a football only member, with UL, UC etc, the BE would have still existed with Miami, VT etc, and all would have been gravy. Money destroyed all of that.CUSA identity gets lost when people say Richmond is in the conference.
CUSA messed up in 2009 when we turned down ESPN.
We take that ESPN deal and there is no AAC. Take the old CUSA 2.0 and then you add UCONN, USF, Cincy, and Temple and we wouldnt have this problem 6 years later