I’m starting my own thread, because the topics change so quickly in the dherd forum.
There are no innocent parties in this Ukrainian mess. Both sides better not get too mouthy about it because there’s plenty of corruption to go around. First, Biden was the point man of the Obama administration for their relations with the oil and gas industry in Ukraine. Two weeks after a visit to Ukraine, Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company with the potential to be another ExxonMobil type company.
Hunter’s qualifications for that position was weak at best, and although there were likely no laws broken, it was certainly a conflict of interest. Hunter Biden might of grown up some the last few years, but he hasn’t been a model citizen or person. In his divorce from his first wife (they had three kids), it was revealed that his drug use, philandering, penchant for strip bars, and other lifestyle choices had racked up serious debts. His first wife couldn’t pay legitimate bills because of numerous maxed out credit cards and mortgages on all their properties.
Now I don’t blame Joe Biden for his son’s behavior. I imagine it’s been a nightmare. But how do you not see the conflict of interest in his board appointment to Burisma? Laws may or may not have been broken, but this is the stuff liberals rail against, and to be consistent you have to despise this swamp type of practice.
But Jesus, you Trump guys can’t seriously revel in this when you can point to hundreds of similar type conflicts of interest with the Trump family. Get some core beliefs and stick to them without regard to who it promotes or demotes politically. The president and Giuliani has once again got in bed with a foreign country to help them get elected. They used threats of withholding aid, our taxpayer money, to gain political advantage. This is the exact same thing being alleged with Biden. Just use the Republican arm to launch an investigation and expose it. But don’t be too disappointed that the American people have become so calloused to corruption, lying, and conflicts of interest because they are drowning in it daily due to this administration.
But you conservatives better be careful here. I have no clue if Trump can overcome the negative polling and win this thing in 2020. We’ll see. But if the continual beatings he receives from being the target as president does succeed in uprooting him in the next election, you might not like the results if Biden isn’t the Democrat’s choice. Biden is the most centrist candidate of the bunch. If the pendulum swings the other way, he would likely offer the least change to our status quo. Health Care and gun legislation likely stays close to where it is today. But if Biden’s bid is pushed aside due to gaffes and scandal, you might get stuck with a candidate that’s going to push harder to change the very core of your beliefs. A backlash the next election could easily produce a very liberal candidate. With Biden, who has already taken on a Dan Quayle persona in the media, you could undermine his legitimacy as a president every time he says something stupid.
Again...Trump might hold on and this is all moot. But be careful what you wish for.
There are no innocent parties in this Ukrainian mess. Both sides better not get too mouthy about it because there’s plenty of corruption to go around. First, Biden was the point man of the Obama administration for their relations with the oil and gas industry in Ukraine. Two weeks after a visit to Ukraine, Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company with the potential to be another ExxonMobil type company.
Hunter’s qualifications for that position was weak at best, and although there were likely no laws broken, it was certainly a conflict of interest. Hunter Biden might of grown up some the last few years, but he hasn’t been a model citizen or person. In his divorce from his first wife (they had three kids), it was revealed that his drug use, philandering, penchant for strip bars, and other lifestyle choices had racked up serious debts. His first wife couldn’t pay legitimate bills because of numerous maxed out credit cards and mortgages on all their properties.
Now I don’t blame Joe Biden for his son’s behavior. I imagine it’s been a nightmare. But how do you not see the conflict of interest in his board appointment to Burisma? Laws may or may not have been broken, but this is the stuff liberals rail against, and to be consistent you have to despise this swamp type of practice.
But Jesus, you Trump guys can’t seriously revel in this when you can point to hundreds of similar type conflicts of interest with the Trump family. Get some core beliefs and stick to them without regard to who it promotes or demotes politically. The president and Giuliani has once again got in bed with a foreign country to help them get elected. They used threats of withholding aid, our taxpayer money, to gain political advantage. This is the exact same thing being alleged with Biden. Just use the Republican arm to launch an investigation and expose it. But don’t be too disappointed that the American people have become so calloused to corruption, lying, and conflicts of interest because they are drowning in it daily due to this administration.
But you conservatives better be careful here. I have no clue if Trump can overcome the negative polling and win this thing in 2020. We’ll see. But if the continual beatings he receives from being the target as president does succeed in uprooting him in the next election, you might not like the results if Biden isn’t the Democrat’s choice. Biden is the most centrist candidate of the bunch. If the pendulum swings the other way, he would likely offer the least change to our status quo. Health Care and gun legislation likely stays close to where it is today. But if Biden’s bid is pushed aside due to gaffes and scandal, you might get stuck with a candidate that’s going to push harder to change the very core of your beliefs. A backlash the next election could easily produce a very liberal candidate. With Biden, who has already taken on a Dan Quayle persona in the media, you could undermine his legitimacy as a president every time he says something stupid.
Again...Trump might hold on and this is all moot. But be careful what you wish for.
