Carmichael said early on that he thought up to 20 could be against it, but he wanted to caucus to see where people stood.
He came back from caucus to say he couldn't guarantee passage but thought that it would.
People not even trying to be fair right now.
Edited to eat crow: Hoppy misquoted him and is now saying he expects it not to pass.
Metronews and HK is where I got the info when I posted.